US Taxes on selling CR property?

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  • #185467
    mmessier2
    Member

    I have purchased some property in CR that I plan to build on in a few years. I’m a US citizen. I have no plans to sell it. However, if I experience some kind ‘life-change’ and I sell the property in the future, how do I legally get the money back to the United States? What kind of US taxes must I pay? Thanks

    #185468
    guru
    Member

    First keep good books. The money coming back in is just like any other investment. If you lose money you have a loss, if you gain you have a profit which MAY be taxable. If you spend more on improvements than you get in your sales price then you may have a loss. The amount that went OUT can come back in the same way. Just be sure you can account for it.

    As a US citizen you are libel for taxes on earnings anywhere in the world forever, AMEN.

    Unless you renounce your US citizenship and permanently leave the country this is the rule AND if you owe back taxes they would still be due.

    There is one advantage to living outside the us (full time) and that is a tax exemption on income up to $80,000. However, too may trips home or too much time in the US and you can lose that exemption.

    #185469
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    I am not American but believe that $82,400 per husband AND also per wife exemption (US$164,800) “if” you can prove you are a legal resident of a country outside the USA applies to annual “income” as in salary or consulting fees and not capital gains on the sale of a home, no?

    You might want to see

    “The United States is the only developed country in the world that continues to impose worldwide income tax on its citizens working overseas.”

    Scott Oliver – Founder
    WeLoveCostaRica.com

    #185470
    DavidCMurray
    Participant

    I’m certain you are correct, Scott. The foreign income tax exclusion is an exclusion from taxation on foreign *earnings*. That does not include “unearned” income such as rents, capital gains, etc.

    That said, were one to sell something here in Costa Rica and wish to “transport” the money to the United States, it could be done by an international wire transfer from bank to bank. No mystery there. You would, however, probably have to report that transfer to IRS.

    #185471
    mmessier2
    Member

    I cant foresee moving the money back to the US, but if we do build and eventually sell, I’d hate to just give 50% of that income to Uncle Sam. I guess I will worry about that if the time ever comes.

    I’m just happy my dream of living in Costa Rica is becoming more and more of a reality. By the way its a 1/2 acre (not in a development) in Esterones, about 10 minutes north of Samara, Guanacaste. If you have heard the rumors of Mel Gibson buying 400+ acres, we are 2 minutes from his property.

    #185472
    OTTFOG
    Member

    Scott,

    The exclusion is 85,700 each. I have cut and pasted part of a post from late June on another thread that clarifies the exclusion. Note that Foreign earned does not mean the income has to be earned in a foreign country just that it is earned while your “tax home” is outside the U.S.

    Here are the rules and a link to the law…

    In order to qualify for the exclusion, you must pass three tests:

    Your tax home (place where you work) must be in a foreign country
    You must have foreign earned income (does not include lodging, meals, fringes)
    You must pass either the “bona fide” residence or “physical presence” test in a foreign country.
    The “bona fide” residence test is passed if you have a home in a foreign country for at least one uninterrupted tax year. Generally, the tax law anticipates that you have moved to this country with the intention of staying there for a long while. Most people claim the physical presence test instead.

    The “physical presence” test is passed if, during any 12-month period, you were present in a foreign country for any 330 days. They need not be consecutive, nor does the 12 month period have to be concomitant with a calendar or other tax year. For instance, if you were present from July 1 to June 30 the next year, and you only left the country for a couple of weeks at Christmas, you pass the test.

    There is a limit on the amount of foreign earned income that can be excluded. The limit in 2007 is $85,700 (inflation-adjusted thereafter). If the bona fide residence or physical presence tests are only passed for part of a year, it must be pro-rated. For example, our taxpayer above who qualified beginning on July 1 could take an exclusion for that year of $42,850 (since 6 of the 12 months were qualified exclusion months). The pro-ration is calculated down to the day.

    You must file a timely return in order to claim the exclusion, and claiming the exclusion means that any tax advantages to income (like IRA contributions) are disallowed to the extent that earned income is excluded. Taking the exclusion also disqualifies you from the earned income credit.

    In addition to the foreign earned income exclusion, taxpayers can also claim an exclusion for a foreign housing allowance. Congress has restricted the amount that can be claimed. The limit on the foreign housing exclusion is the following formula:

    (30% of your own foreign earned income exclusion – 16% of the greatest possible exclusion)

    If you are self-employed, you can deduct any foreign housing costs not already excluded by the earned income exclusion or the housing exclusion.

    Amounts your employer gives you for lodging are not taxable, so they also cannot be excluded or deducted from income.

    Any exclusion or deduction of housing naturally means that you cannot claim mortgage interest deductions or other tax advantages on that housing. No double benefit is allowed.

    One of the biggest changes Congress has made in these rules is the so-called “inclusion amount.” Under the prior law, the income and housing exclusions would be taken off of gross income, and whatever was left would have taxes owed.

    Now, the amount of income that is left must be taxed as if the excluded income was never excluded. That means that fairly moderate-income taxpayers will face very high marginal tax rates on fairly low amounts of income.

    The details can be found here at: http://www.irs.gov/publications/p54/ch04.html

    I hope this helps clarify this issue. It is a WONDERFUL thing…

    Sincerely,

    Jerry

    #185473
    OTTFOG
    Member

    mmessier2,

    The thought and process of relocating to Costa Rica is exciting and I truly hope that it works out for you. I just wanted to make a quick comment that under current tax law, selling your property shouldn’t cost you 50% in taxes since the brackets don’t go that high and, depending on your holding period, you might qualify for capital gains tax rate. Having said that, we have a new congress and they have said they want to increase tax rates so who knows what might happen down the road. There are lots of strategies and structures that you could put in place to keep yourself in the best possible position to not have a big tax bill.

    Jerry

    #185474
    DavidCMurray
    Participant

    Just one clarification, please, Jerry. The income which may be excluded from U.S. taxation is earned income — from work — right? If I understand correctly, the exclusion does not apply to rents, capital gains, etc. Or am I wrong?

    #185475
    mmessier2
    Member

    Jerry- Thank you very much for your reply, it was very helpful. Does capital gains apply to foreign property the same way it does for US property? If I had my house in CR for 2 years would I be allowed the same exemptions as if I owned a home in the US?

    #185476
    OTTFOG
    Member

    David,

    You are correct that the income must be earned income. Having said that, if you owned a corporation (US, CR, or otherwise), for which you worked, and the corporation had income from rents or gains from the sale of assets, and you paid yourself a resonable salary from the corporation for the services you perform, that would be earned income. The Corporation would be able to deduct the salary it paid you and you would have a foreign earned income exclusion on your income. So, the net effect could be that the rents, gains, etc. didn’t have taxes. Structure and documentation is important. If you didn’t do so, go to the link that I provided for more detailed information and some easily understood real life examples. http://www.irs.gov/publications/p54/ch04.html

    Jerry

    #185477
    OTTFOG
    Member

    To my knowledge, and there might be an exception, it does NOT matter where the asset is physically located. A gain is a gain. I have pasted below information from the IRS website.

    IRS TAX TIP 2007-34

    Almost everything you own and use for personal purposes, pleasure or investment is a capital asset. When you sell a capital asset, the difference between the amounts you sell it for and your basis, which is usually what you paid for it, is a capital gain or a capital loss. While you must report all capital gains, you may deduct only capital losses on investment property, not personal property.

    Good luck.

    Jerry

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