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  • #202237
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    This is an interesting analysis of recent events in English …

    Costa Rica’s Chinchilla Calls for Drug Legalization Debate

    Drug legalization in Central America merits a “serious” debate as a solution to the crime and violence coursing through the region even if it runs up against U.S. opposition, said Costa Rican President Laura Chinchilla.

    “If we keep doing what we have been when the results today are worse than 10 years ago, we’ll never get anywhere and could wind up like Mexico or Colombia,” Chinchilla said yesterday in an interview in San Jose.

    While U.S. opposition to legalization is well-known, Central Americans “have the right to discuss it” because “we are paying a very high price,” said Chinchilla, 52.

    It’s worth reading the full article at:

    [ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-01/costa-rica-calls-for-debate-on-drug-legalization-amid-record-trafficking.html ]

    #202238
    maravilla
    Member

    let’s see what her handlers (the US) have to say about this. i heard napolitano said no way to decriminalization in the States. too big a business locking up all the drug addicts in for-profit NYSE-traded prisons.

    #202239
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    From [ http://www.miller-mccune.com/politics/don%E2%80%99t-legalize-drugs-decriminalize-%E2%80%99em-29133/ ]

    “It may seem like semantics, but Portugal’s experiment in decriminalizing drugs (not legalizing them) has had some pretty impressive results. ”

    The results are impressive: A drop in HIV rates, a drop in street overdoses and a drop in overall drug abuse (except marijuana). People don’t flock to Portugal from across Europe to abuse drugs. “The apocalypse never came,”

    It would be nice if someone in Washington could show enough level-headed sanity and courage to do the same. A Mexican drug war is lapping at the southern border of the United States in a way that communism never did, but no one (south of the U.S.-Canada border) has the guts to quell its driving force, which is the American lust for drugs. Meanwhile, the prisons fill up with “drug felons.”

    What do our other VIP Members think?

    I am not sure if decriminalizing drugs would have the same positive effect in Costa Rica because the bulk of the drugs are in transit, no?

    IMHO decriminalizing drugs in Costa Rica would only produce significant results if they also decriminalized drugs in the biggest drug consuming nation in the world, the U.S.A., which I doubt will happewn.

    What do you think?

    Scott

    #202240
    waggoner41
    Member

    [quote=”Scott”]”It may seem like semantics, but Portugal’s experiment in decriminalizing drugs (not legalizing them) has had some pretty impressive results. ”

    The results are impressive: A drop in HIV rates, a drop in street overdoses and a drop in overall drug abuse (except marijuana). People don’t flock to Portugal from across Europe to abuse drugs. “The apocalypse never came,”

    What do you think?

    Scott

    [/quote]

    Legalization and taxation of Marijuana would benefit the States and domestic production would take over much of the market.

    Decriminalizing cocain, heroin and other ‘hard drugs’ will not stop the murders which are wars over market share. Whether the drugs are decriminalized or not will make little difference.

    The biggest problem is that too many politicians have their pockets filled by the cartels negating any real solution.

    #202241
    bogino
    Participant

    Would those that support the legalization of drugs also support the legalization of Prostitution?

    I’m not being cynical. I really don’t have an opinion on this. Am just curious what others might think since generally the 2 (drugs and prostitution) go hand in hand.

    #202242
    DavidCMurray
    Participant

    Hmmm . . . Seems to me that (currently illegal) substance abuse and prostitution have some things in common and some differences.

    In too many instances, prostitution is forced upon the prostitutes either by their life circumstances or by predatory pimps. Certainly the child prostitutes of Thailand and elsewhere have not chosen that life among any range of practical options. Likewise, unwanted and homeless children turn to prostitution to survive. It’s their one practical option and likely not one they relish.

    Similarly, substance abusers are often lured into their abuse by someone with something to gain, or by a social environment that encourages that abuse. I can think of several childhood friends who grew up to be alcohol abusers merely because that was the family environment in which they grew up. Their heavy use was pretty much a foregone conclusion although admittedly they were/are people of free will who do have choices.

    The difference between prostitution and substance abuse, in my opinion, is that as one who has never been a client, prostitution has only a very limited impact on me personally. My exposure is virtually zero. True, I pay taxes to help treat the HIV and other STDs that run rampant among prostitutes, but those same taxes pay for the effects of smoking, inactivity, poor diet, substance abuse, and a host of other “bad social behaviors”.

    The difference, to me personally, is that I cannot effectively avoid exposure to the substance abusers, and I cannot see how decriminalizing drug abuse will help. Every time I leave the house, I’m at risk of being hit by some drunk or doper driving unsafely. I’m at risk of some physician mistreating me. I’m at risk for someone handling my food doing so unsafely. The list goes on . . .

    For as long as we all are so dependent upon so many people to serve our legitimate needs and for as long as we’re exposed to the public generally, we’re at risk of our health and safety being jeopardized.

    Legal and law enforcement campaigns have had some success in suppressing drunk driving, but I just wonder how many impaired drivers we’ll encounter if marijuana, cocaine, methamphetamine, LSD, peyote and heroin are legally available. Absent a convincing answer to that question, I cannot come down in favor of decriminalizing the abuse of any controlled substance.

    The remaining questions are whether what we’re doing now is having enough beneficial effect to warrant the financial and social costs. Is the juice worth the squeeze? And is there a practical alternative? If not the current “war on drugs”, now in its fourth decade, what?

    #202243
    maravilla
    Member

    people are already driving under the influence of a variety of substances that will put you at risk, not just street drugs. how many people are taking tranquilizers, sleeping pills, psychiatric meds or have had a couple of drinks that impair their judgment or cause them to drive recklessly,or even cause them to fall asleep at the wheel. many many Rx drugs come with safety warnings about driving or operation machinery — i would assume with good reason. in my other home state, there were always at least 10 fatal accidents a year that involved a long list of Rx drugs that were the primary cause of the accident. there was a study that said pot smokers were at a 50% higher risk of being involved in an accident than a straight person. personally, i won’t get into a car with anyone who has even had a beer, smoked pot, or is taking certain meds. as for prostitution, it’s the oldest game in town and the problem is that morality and common sense cannot be regulated. as a woman, i personally find it revolting that men would go to prostitutes and then risk their lives, the lives of their wives or girlfriends all for WHAT? but my common sense side tells me it should be legal because it can’t be outlawed. and didn’t the decriminalization of drugs in Portugal turn out to be a non-issue? there weren’t millions of people flocking to portugal to score. drugs are everywhere in the world now. there is almost no place on the planet that you can go where you wouldn’t be able to cop.

    #202244
    DavidCMurray
    Participant

    You’re absolutely right, maravilla, that we’re constantly exposed to drivers and others whose performance is influenced by a wide variety of legal and illegal substances. So maybe decriminalizing drugs wouldn’t change that exposure at all.

    Does anybody know what Portugal’s experience with decriminalization has been? Apparently measurable drug use hasn’t skyrocketed, but what effects have been seen in policing, the courts, prison populations, etc?
    Has the reported incidence of impaired driving gone up or down?

    And has Portugal seen any reduction in the activities of organized criminals? If the incidence of substance abuse weren’t affected at all but the activities of organized crime were suppressed, that would be a convincing argument in favor of decriminalization by itself.

    #202245
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    [quote=”bogino”]Would those that support the legalization of drugs also support the legalization of Prostitution?[/quote]

    For the record… Prostitution is totally legal in Costa Rica, pimping is not …

    Scott

    #202246
    Barbed1
    Member

    A public health problem,drug addiction,can not be fixed by the war on drugs. Unfortunately people who have never had a drug problem WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND ADDICTION. I am 10+ years clean and sober and have never met a non addict who understands addiction. Their answer is always ,Just quit! As long as you fit your narrow preception of who and what drug abusers are you will never really understand the real problem. I never was or met a prostitute so I really don’t have an opinion on that issue.
    Just saying

    #202247

    Prohibition has never worked, throughout the history of man. Legalize or decriminalize. There are hundreds of thousands of disabled veterans using illegal and medical marijuana, to ease their service-connected disabilities. They went from heros, to being considered criminals under the law. It can be grown anywhere, from the Artic to Costa Rica, thus the term “Home Grown.”

    #202248
    sprite
    Member

    I hope there are no repercussions from this. The predator class (banking cartel-US government)has a few ways of getting its way…and it wants to keep the so called war on drugs as one of its a control mechanisms and money-making schemes.

    Either an economic hit team comes down and buys off or scares off Chinchilla or another kind of hit team comes down. What I can’t figure out, though, is why Chinchilla is doing this. She must be aware of the game rules. Unless she is totally naive, there may be a hidden agenda.

    #202249
    sprite
    Member

    [quote=”DavidCMurray”]

    For as long as we all are so dependent upon so many people to serve our legitimate needs and for as long as we’re exposed to the public generally, we’re at risk of our health and safety being jeopardized.

    Legal and law enforcement campaigns have had some success in suppressing drunk driving, but I just wonder how many impaired drivers we’ll encounter if marijuana, cocaine, methamphetamine, LSD, peyote and heroin are legally available. Absent a convincing answer to that question, I cannot come down in favor of decriminalizing the abuse of any controlled substance.

    [/quote]

    “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty”..(Ben Franklin)

    It takes a certain level of maturity and courage to be free.
    I don’t see these qualities in modern Americans.

    #202250
    aguirrewar
    Member

    The real ISSUE is that prostitution has existed since the begining of the world and drug’s ALSO.

    While one is accepted up to a certain degree the other is not, some things never change but they do exist all over your town, city, state and country.

    After 30 years of a WAR on drugs and spending billions of dollars, have we made a dent on it??

    My answer is to DEAL with this problem, containment has not worked and will not work

    #202251

    This is why I will eventually reside in costa rica, because the government just gets it. Instead of spending millions of dollars fighting a war they cant win, they spend money on education and health care. If you’re educated on the effects of drugs to your body and your health you can make the right decision on weather or not you want to use them. I personally think weed should be legal. I have never seen anyone get into a fight while high, or fight over a pool game. Prostitution is the women’s business, at least costa rica says ok if you’re going to do it lets help you through education and proper per cautions. I love this country and cant wait to move as soon as my kids graduate from high school. I want everyone to talk a look at Jamaica and see the reason why they legalize pot. Enough said. People that smoke pot preach peace , love and happiness, they don’t really use other harder drugs, no need

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