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July 3, 2013 at 5:10 pm #202623johnnyhMember
http://vianica.com/go/specials/18-lake-nicaragua.html
It could be an ecological disaster primarily to Nicaragua and secondarily to C.R. It is a fresh water lake after all!
July 5, 2013 at 3:23 pm #202624phargParticipant[quote=”johnnyh”]http://vianica.com/go/specials/18-lake-nicaragua.html
It could be an ecological disaster primarily to Nicaragua and secondarily to C.R. It is a fresh water lake after all![/quote]The consequences would almost certainly be extensive and tragic to land and freshwater communities [human and otherwise]; not so much to marine life, if the Panama Canal is a model.
To my knowledge there are only 3 fish that have successfully made the trip between the two oceans; there are also several seaweeds which have survived from the Caribbean to the Pacific, but do not thrive there, probably because [nonhuman] herbivores eat them up.
Transfers from one ocean to the other is mostly accomplished by things that live on ship hulls, or via ballast water [some ships are required to take on seawater as ballast before transiting the canal, for balancing purposes]. Then there’s the man-eating bull shark which has invaded from the ocean via the San Juan River and become adapted to the fresh water of Lago de Nicaragua.
On land it’s a different matter. Since Panama took over the canal, there has been lots of degradation of surrounding land [deforestation, poor farming practice, erosion] with various pollution problems in Gatun Lake [fertilizers, pesticides, sediment].
Doesn’t look too good, ecologically, for Nicaragua. Not that the government cares much.:cry:
August 1, 2013 at 11:00 pm #202625AndrewKeymasterSupposedly the route for [url=http://www.elpueblopresidente.com/realidades/18668.html]the new Nicaragua canal[/url] has already been decided on:
Wang Jing, president of HKND said that although a feasibility report is currently being carried out, “the framework” for the project has already been defined. “There wont be small changes, but there are no major changes,” said the businessmen when specifying the route: Hound Sound Bar (South of Isla del Venado, in Bluefields Bay) – Escondido River – Rama River – Oyate River – Lake Nicaragua – Las Lajas River – Brito River.
I can’t image our Gringo friends to the North allowing this to be completed… I’m sure they are very worried about the environmental impact (Yeah! Right! :?) but they would certainly consider it a threat to “our interests” dontcha’ think?
Scott
August 2, 2013 at 3:11 pm #202626spriteMember[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”Scott”]I can’t image our Gringo friends to the North allowing this to be completed.[/quote]
Well, I still don’t think this canal is likely to be built but if it the construction of a canal DOES get underway, precisely how would the “Gringo friends to the North” prevent it?
[quote=”Scott”]… but they would certainly consider it a threat to “our interests” dontcha’ think?[/quote]
How would having 2 canals for trans-ocean shipping to pass through be a threat?[/quote]
If the Chinese have their own route through the Isthmus, the U.S. would not be able to restrict passage, would they?
The U.S. has always considered itself owner of the entire hemisphere and recently, has been aiming for more control of the rest of the world.August 2, 2013 at 5:31 pm #202627spriteMember[quote=”sweikert925″]It’s a bit far-fetched to suggest that the US can restrict passage through the Panama canal since we don’t own (or even lease) it any more.
Chinese ships traverse the Panama Canal routinely, including its naval ships. I can’t recall a single occasion when passage through the canal was denied for poltical reasons, but maybe someone out there can enlighten if that was indeed ever the case.
But it still begs the question: Why would a second canal be a threat to the US? The only threat I can see is to Panama which would no longer have a monopoly on transoceanic shipping transit traffic.[/quote]
A Chinese built canal in Nicaragua would be under the immediate control (inspections, etc) of Nicaragua and to some degree, China …just as the Panama canal is under the control of Panama and the US. Who inspects cargo in the Panama canal?
August 3, 2013 at 12:35 am #202628VictoriaLSTMemberMilitary supplies in transit between Cuba and N. Korea were recently interdicted at the Panama canal. They were hidden under other cargo – sugar cane as I recall. I wonder if Nicaragua and China would stop movement of military supplies.
August 3, 2013 at 12:57 am #202629spriteMemberRight now, the criminals in Washington DC can ship just about anything they want to any destination they want, legal or otherwise. Israel and the CIA asset, AL Qaida, are armed to the teeth by Washington. Petroleum, minerals and other commodities can also be halted at will by these criminals to support any war adventure or false flag attack they decide upon.
Now comes a competing mafia-like organization, China,into the isthmus to open its own shipping lane between the oceans. It does not take a great deal of imagination to understand why one gang of bastards might oppose another gang moving in on what it considers its territory.
August 3, 2013 at 4:45 am #202630ImxploringParticipantHaving control or access to a canal cutting Central America in half has both military and more importantly commercial implications! Think long term people. The Chinese are LONG TERM thinkers, they always have been. Look at their current expansion and new alliances worldwide. Some seem to make little sense today, but in the long term it is all about developing future markets for their goods as well as locking in their access to raw materials and resources!
Look at the level of China’s current gold buying and internal production that is now being kept from export. That should give you some idea where they see the dollar going as well as their intention to challenge the USD as the world’s reserve currency. They know the US can never repay their current debts.
August 3, 2013 at 2:39 pm #202631VictoriaLSTMemberExactly my point about the interdiction.
And sprite? “CIA asset, AL Qaida” Words fail me.
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