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  • #160977
    bradbard
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    I don’t know if any of you have his email but if you do please forward my letter below to Mr. Luis Fishman?

    In June the Congress approved a motion condemning the actions of the Israeli Navy who killed nine people in an unprovoked attack on unarmed civilians in international waters. (1)

    They voted 37:13 condemning the “use of disproportionate force” in international waters but Luis Fishman said that the information that that supported the motion was not “trustworthy”.

    The United Nations Human Rights Council sent an independent fact finding mission and interviewed 112 witnesses and examined a huge amount of evidence. Of course Israel refused to cooperate but the Mission concluded that the Israeli military “demonstrated levels of totally unnecessary and incredible violence. It betrayed an unacceptable level of brutality. Such conduct,” the report added, “cannot be justified or condoned on security or any others grounds. It constituted grave violations of human rights law and international humanitarian law.” (2)

    It also confirmed that there is a “severe humanitarian situation in Gaza, the destruction of the economy and the prevention of reconstruction.” Israel’s blockade was “inflicting disproportionate damage upon the civilian population” in Gaza, and is therefore illegal. Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention prohibits collective punishment of civilians under occupation.

    Not only was the Israeli interception of the flotilla unlawful, “the use of force by the Israeli forces in seizing control of the Mavi Marmara and other vessels was also prima facie unlawful since there was no legal basis for the Israeli forces to conduct an assault and interception in international waters.”

    Much of the force used by the Israeli soldiers onboard the Mavi Marmara and from the helicopters was “unnecessary, disproportionate, excessive and inappropriate and resulted in the wholly avoidable killing and maiming of a large number of civilian passengers.”

    At least six of the killings can be characterized as “extra-legal, arbitrary and summary executions,” which amounted to violations of the right to life and to physical integrity under articles 6 and 7 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).

    So here’s my question for Sr. Fishman:

    Now that there is very reliable and trustworthy information (“información confiable”) would Luis Fishman like to give us his opinion now?

    Is he in favor of allowing Israel to use “unnecessary and incredible violence” and “an unacceptable level of brutality” and does he support Israel’s use of “extra-legal, arbitrary and summary executions”?

    I would love to know because if he agrees with these fanatical, supremacist views, with Costa Rica’s commitment to peace, democracy and equal rights for all I would hope Mr. Fishman and also Mr. Luis Lieberman – if he feels the same – will resign from political office immediately.

    (1) Congreso tico condena nuevo ataque israelí http://www.nacion.com/2010-06-01/ElPais/OtrasNoticias/ElPais2392714.aspx

    (2) http://www.marjoriecohn.com/2010/10/israel-raid-on-gaza-flotilla-us-failure.html

    #160978
    sprite
    Member

    Does anyone know anything about alleged close involvement between Israel and Costa Rica regarding Israel’s supplying military hardware and training to Costa Rica? I understand that Costa Rica has no armed forces but it keeps some heavier arms for certain police. Police armed with automatic weapons are currently stationed on the Nicaragua border.

    Might the recent visit of the US Navy with the suspicious mission of medical assistance be related to the border activity (ie; unloading of material and/or personel) The only Central American country which dose not have some sort of arms buying relationship with Israel is Nicaragua and we are now seeing reports of possible Mossad (Israeli) involvement in this odd border dispute allegedly having to do with river dredging. River dredging? Really?

    #160979
    johnr
    Member

    [quote=”sprite”]Does anyone know anything about alleged close involvement between Israel and Costa Rica regarding Israel’s supplying military hardware and training to Costa Rica? I understand that Costa Rica has no armed forces but it keeps some heavier arms for certain police. Police armed with automatic weapons are currently stationed on the Nicaragua border.

    [b]Might the recent visit of the US Navy with the suspicious mission of medical assistance be related to the border activity (ie; unloading of material and/or personel)[/b][i][u][/u][/i] The only Central American country which dose not have some sort of arms buying relationship with Israel is Nicaragua and we are now seeing reports of possible Mossad (Israeli) involvement in this odd border dispute allegedly having to do with river dredging. River dredging? Really?[/quote]

    Seriously? I mean come on.

    #160980
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    In the links below Wayne Madsen’s article which you can see at:

    [ https://www.welovecostarica.com/public/US_Ratchets_Up_Contra_War_II_Against_Nicaragua.cfm ]

    You’ll find numerous references to the CIA and Israel’s involvement in death squads and drug running in Central America.

    This isn’t a crazy “conspiracy theory”, it’s proven fact!

    Supposedly John Hull – a US citizen (a friend of both George Bush and Dan Quayle) and a CIA agent in Costa Rica – alone was smuggling 30 TONS of cocaine a year into the US for our families and friends to enjoy.

    Scott

    #160981
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    PS. I do not have Mr. Fishman’s email address…

    #160982
    costaricabill
    Participant

    [quote=”sprite”]Does anyone know anything about alleged close involvement between Israel and Costa Rica regarding Israel’s supplying military hardware and training to Costa Rica? I understand that Costa Rica has no armed forces but it keeps some heavier arms for certain police. Police armed with automatic weapons are currently stationed on the Nicaragua border.

    Might the recent visit of the US Navy with the suspicious mission of medical assistance be related to the border activity (ie; unloading of material and/or personel) The only Central American country which dose not have some sort of arms buying relationship with Israel is Nicaragua and we are now seeing reports of possible Mossad (Israeli) involvement in this odd border dispute allegedly having to do with river dredging. River dredging? Really?[/quote]

    Once again, Sprite The Conspiritorial Heathen has been missing too much sleep,and ingesting too much of whatever! How he manages to dream up these conspiracies is beyond any form of rational thought.

    The U.S. Navy’s visit connected Mossad (Israeli) involvement connected to to “automatic weapons” connected to the dispute over river dredging?

    Really Sprite, wherever you are and whatever you are smoking, you need to take a breath and breathe in the real world. Here in CR there are actual pictures and news film of the dredging and defororestation, and what the Nics are trying to do is really quite easy for a logical mind to undersatnd and comprehend. Maybe you haven’t seen the pictures or newsclips on Mars or wherever you are, but it did really happen and is probably still ongoing!

    And even the Fuerza Policia has, and has had “automatic weapons” for quite some time. Before long, you’ll be trying to tell us that Hugo & George W. are secret partners in an international gerbil smuggling ring!

    You really come up with some weird stuff dude. Instead of trying to blow it on us, with an imagination like yours, you need to wite a book – – I would buy it and I predict it would be a best seller!

    Have you ever looked into the UFO theories?

    #160983
    sprite
    Member

    I admittedly have no proof or idea what exactly is going on but I pay attention to historic patterns and I disbelieve most official news reports. Do you take official news at surface value and never wonder if perhaps somebody is lying to you? Do you think my suggestion of covert US involvement in Central American affairs has been taken out of the blue and has no historic basis?

    I accept the following as fact:

    1.The Israeli’s have sold arms and training to many Central American countries with the notable exception of Nicaragua.

    2.The United States supplied and trained Contra rebels with the aim of taking down the Nicaraguan government.

    3.The United States and Israel are allies.

    4. The United States has been nominated to be listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the country which has initiated the MOST MILITARY FOREIGN INTERVENTIONS. There have been 180 landings by the US Marine Corp.

    Considering the above, I would believe that anyone who does NOT have suspicions about US and Israel involvement when US soldiers and Israeli guns show up any where within 500 miles of any border conflict to be totally naive or brainwashed.

    #160984
    johnr
    Member

    [quote=”sprite”]I admittedly have no proof or idea what exactly is going on but I pay attention to historic patterns and I disbelieve most official news reports. Do you take official news at surface value and never wonder if perhaps somebody is lying to you? Do you think my suggestion of covert US involvement in Central American affairs has been taken out of the blue and has no historic basis?

    I accept the following as fact:

    1.The Israeli’s have sold arms and training to many Central American countries with the notable exception of Nicaragua.

    2.The United States supplied and trained Contra rebels with the aim of taking down the Nicaraguan government.

    3.The United States and Israel are allies.

    4. The United States has been nominated to be listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the country which has initiated the MOST MILITARY FOREIGN INTERVENTIONS. There have been 180 landings by the US Marine Corp.

    Considering the above, I would believe that anyone who does NOT have suspicions about US and Israel involvement when US soldiers and Israeli guns show up any where within 500 miles of any border conflict to be totally naive or brainwashed.[/quote]

    Well if you had left off the last paragraph this would have been the most sane thing you have written regarding history in the last six months. I sure wish the Iwo was still in Limon – that engineering battalion would come in awful handy right now.

    #160985
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    [quote=”sprite”]The Israeli’s have sold arms and training to many Central American countries with the notable exception of Nicaragua.[/quote]

    This is not correct…

    “Israel was heavily involved in supporting the Contras in Nicaragua, supporting and arming the Salvadoran government, arming the government in Guatemala…”

    From [ http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2010/11/israel-shamir-blankfort-spills-the-beans/ ]

    “Israel sold Somoza 98 percent of the weapons he used against the Nicaraguan population. Those included not only Uzi submachine guns and “thousands” of Israeli-made Galil assault rifles, but large quantities of ammunition, surface-to-air missiles (the FSLN, the Sandinistas, had no air force), nine combat-armed Cessna aircraft and two Sikorsky helicopters, which Somoza’s Guard used as platforms for machine gun strafing. Sometimes they rolled 500 pound bombs out the helicopter doors.”

    From [ http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ronald_Reagan/Israel_Contras_TICC.html ]

    Scott

    #160986
    sprite
    Member

    The Contras were not the Nicaraguan government. And it could be argued that neither was the Somoza regime.

    #160987
    jrego
    Member

    I don’t know if this helps (I am sure you have thought of this) but Fishman has his own FaceBook Page. See: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fishman-2010/164627315955

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