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July 29, 2014 at 12:00 am #169098daviddMember
Guess who wants expats’ Social Security numbers
By the A.M. Costa Rica staffThe U.S. State Department will seek Social Security numbers from Americans who renew a passport. This is a rule that went into effect last week.
American Citizens Abroad, an expat advocate group, said that while not discussed in the regulations, it seems clear that with this information the tax people, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, can check to see whether tax returns are being filed.
“These rules do not provide that a passport will not be issued or will somehow be invalidated or ‘frozen’ if forms/returns are not filed,” said the association. “This subject is, in a fashion, addressed in other proposed legislation that would, in effect, freeze or cancel a passport where the individual did not pay a sizable tax liability.”
Congress is considering a bill that would prevent individuals with tax liabilities from leaving the United States. Already forbidden to leave are those who are in arrears with large child support payments.
The new regulation also asked those seeking passports to provide a permanent address and a valid mailing address, either U.S. or foreign, said the association. The rules apply if the passport is sought in the United States or at State Department consular services overseas.
Some Latin American countries require proof that a citizen or resident is current with income taxes in order to leave the country.
July 29, 2014 at 12:49 pm #169099pixframeParticipant[quote=”davidd”]Guess who wants expats’ Social Security numbers
By the A.M. Costa Rica staffThe U.S. State Department will seek Social Security numbers from Americans who renew a passport. This is a rule that went into effect last week.
American Citizens Abroad, an expat advocate group, said that while not discussed in the regulations, it seems clear that with this information the tax people, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service, can check to see whether tax returns are being filed.
“These rules do not provide that a passport will not be issued or will somehow be invalidated or ‘frozen’ if forms/returns are not filed,” said the association. “This subject is, in a fashion, addressed in other proposed legislation that would, in effect, freeze or cancel a passport where the individual did not pay a sizable tax liability.”
Congress is considering a bill that would prevent individuals with tax liabilities from leaving the United States. Already forbidden to leave are those who are in arrears with large child support payments.
The new regulation also asked those seeking passports to provide a permanent address and a valid mailing address, either U.S. or foreign, said the association. The rules apply if the passport is sought in the United States or at State Department consular services overseas.
Some Latin American countries require proof that a citizen or resident is current with income taxes in order to leave the country.[/quote]
Yup! “Section 6039E of the Internal Revenue Code (26 U.S.C. 6039E) requires you to provide your Social Security Number (SSN), if you have one, when you apply for a U.S. passport or renewal of a U.S. passport. If you have not been issued a SSN, enter zeros in box #5 of the passport application form you are completing. Contact the Social Security Administration to request a Number. If you are residing abroad, you must also provide the name of the foreign country in which you are residing. The U.S. Department of State must provide your SSN and foreign residence information to the Department of Treasury. If you fail to provide the information, you are subject to a $500 penalty enforced by the IRS. All questions on this matter should be directed to the nearest IRS office.”
Here’s a copy of the new application http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/212239.pdf
July 29, 2014 at 2:35 pm #169100daviddMemberscary times.. for the awaken few.
July 29, 2014 at 4:55 pm #169101spriteMemberMost problems have solutions. The solution to this one is to renounce US citizenship. Freedom always has a cost.
July 29, 2014 at 8:23 pm #169102daviddMember[quote=”sprite”]Most problems have solutions. The solution to this one is to renounce US citizenship. Freedom always has a cost.[/quote]
true.. I know a few people that have done this and let me tell you its not an easy thing.. besides charging $500 bucks for the privilege lol
August 17, 2014 at 3:51 pm #169103VictoriaLSTMemberIf you renounce, can you still visit the US as a tourist or to see family?
August 17, 2014 at 7:51 pm #169104daviddMember[quote=”VictoriaLST”]If you renounce, can you still visit the US as a tourist or to see family?
[/quote]Victoria
simple answer is “NO” although you can try and get a visa.. but i would seriously doubt any of the worker bee’s in positions that would grant a visa
remember.. it’s people like sweikert with the same mentality that are in these positions..
August 18, 2014 at 11:45 am #169105daviddMemberSweikert
like much of your misinformed rhetoric..
you are incorrect again
it was I NOT Victoria that lobbied in your path lol
🙂
[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”davidd”]it’s people like sweikert with the same mentality that are in these positions.[/quote]
Why Victoria, it’s been MONTHS since you lobbed an insult in my direction! I was beginning to think you no longer cared LOL[/quote] -
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