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May 7, 2014 at 12:00 am #201425daviddMember
this is good news yea right!!
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:D:D
all of these laws.. and macromanaging of its citizens.. all this creates are problems, problems and more problems.. for the normal law abiding citizens
the rich still do what they want and government does what it wants.. so the only people that comply are “US” pheasants.
look at the fiasco with the teachers strike – these people have not been paid the past 2 months which mean Caja has not been paid..
If it were an independent person.. that had a business here and this happened.. we would be thrown in jail.
May 7, 2014 at 6:45 pm #201426ImxploringParticipantAll the more reason to have portable wealth, tangible assets, mobility, and do your best to avoid the system. Having “assets” in the system makes you an easy identifiable target and ripe for the picking.
Just consider all those folks that obtained their residency under the rentista status…. younger folks have had their CAJA payments jump to over $400/ month! CAJA will become a big issue for folks that have felt the need to apply for residency. Because once you’re in you are on the radar.
May 7, 2014 at 7:12 pm #201427AndrewKeymasterMy comments earlier this morning discussing this on Facebook were:
“Big Brother now firmly entrenched in Costa Rica as country agrees to automatically share banking and tax information. “….we are determined to tackle cross-border tax fraud and tax evasion and to promote international tax compliance through mutual administrative assistance in tax matters and a level playing field…”
See the [url=http://www.oecd.org/mcm/MCM-2014-Declaration-Tax.pdf]May 6th 2014 OECD document here.[/url]
A little country like Costa Rica – which needs to be able to trabsfer US dollars through the international system – really has no power to stand up against the U.S. financial authorities if it wants to be able to continue to move dollars…
May 7, 2014 at 8:47 pm #201428daviddMemberthe only way to do this is to go the extra mile and set up in places like Hong Kong..
and just draw a salary
[quote=”Scott”]My comments earlier this morning discussing this on Facebook were:
“Big Brother now firmly entrenched in Costa Rica as country agrees to automatically share banking and tax information. “….we are determined to tackle cross-border tax fraud and tax evasion and to promote international tax compliance through mutual administrative assistance in tax matters and a level playing field…”
See the [url=http://www.oecd.org/mcm/MCM-2014-Declaration-Tax.pdf]May 6th 2014 OECD document here.[/url]
A little country like Costa Rica – which needs to be able to trabsfer US dollars through the international system – really has no power to stand up against the U.S. financial authorities if it wants to be able to continue to move dollars…
[/quote]May 8, 2014 at 3:36 am #201429Kwhite1Member[quote=”davidd”]the only way to do this is to go the extra mile and set up in places like Hong Kong..
and just draw a salary
[quote=”Scott”]My comments earlier this morning discussing this on Facebook were:
“Big Brother now firmly entrenched in Costa Rica as country agrees to automatically share banking and tax information. “….we are determined to tackle cross-border tax fraud and tax evasion and to promote international tax compliance through mutual administrative assistance in tax matters and a level playing field…”
See the [url=http://www.oecd.org/mcm/MCM-2014-Declaration-Tax.pdf]May 6th 2014 OECD document here.[/url]
A little country like Costa Rica – which needs to be able to trabsfer US dollars through the international system – really has no power to stand up against the U.S. financial authorities if it wants to be able to continue to move dollars…
[/quote][/quote]Well my friend…Hong Kong is out now, they complied…..https://www.kpmg.com/cn/en/services/tax/us-corporate-tax/foreign-account-tax-compliance-act/pages/default.aspx
I also read that Switzerland also caved, the only places are the likes of Iran, Russia and some other not so nice countries. I wonder if Fiji jumped on as well?
Onto some good news though, Costa Rica was named #9 out of 10 best places to survive during WWIII, which may be just around the corner, war is good for boosting economies (so I’ve heard). Ok sarcasm off now….
May 8, 2014 at 12:02 pm #201430daviddMemberKwhite1
thank you for that article..
[quote=”Kwhite1″][quote=”davidd”]the only way to do this is to go the extra mile and set up in places like Hong Kong..
and just draw a salary
[quote=”Scott”]My comments earlier this morning discussing this on Facebook were:
“Big Brother now firmly entrenched in Costa Rica as country agrees to automatically share banking and tax information. “….we are determined to tackle cross-border tax fraud and tax evasion and to promote international tax compliance through mutual administrative assistance in tax matters and a level playing field…”
See the [url=http://www.oecd.org/mcm/MCM-2014-Declaration-Tax.pdf]May 6th 2014 OECD document here.[/url]
A little country like Costa Rica – which needs to be able to trabsfer US dollars through the international system – really has no power to stand up against the U.S. financial authorities if it wants to be able to continue to move dollars…
[/quote][/quote]Well my friend…Hong Kong is out now, they complied…..https://www.kpmg.com/cn/en/services/tax/us-corporate-tax/foreign-account-tax-compliance-act/pages/default.aspx
I also read that Switzerland also caved, the only places are the likes of Iran, Russia and some other not so nice countries. I wonder if Fiji jumped on as well?
Onto some good news though, Costa Rica was named #9 out of 10 best places to survive during WWIII, which may be just around the corner, war is good for boosting economies (so I’ve heard). Ok sarcasm off now….[/quote]Kwhite
May 8, 2014 at 1:34 pm #201431ImxploringParticipant[quote=”sweikert925″]If I incur a debt to you for $100.00 and I refuse to pay that debt, I have stolen $100.00 from you. That would be no different than if I took $100.00 out of your wallet while you weren’t looking. Some people seem to have a hard time grasping that concept.
And if someone found a way to cheat out of paying his legally due taxes, that is no different than someone who cheats to gain some government benefit – say Social Security Disability. Those 2 people are both cheats and thieves. Some people seem to have a hard time grasping that concept too.
So this news that governments are finally cracking down on thieves and cheats should be welcome news to honest taxpayers. I certainly feel that way. I only hope some of the worst offenders are sent to prison as well as being forced to surrender their ill-gotten gains.
I find it puzzling that some of you are on the side of the cheats and thieves. Unless…..[/quote]
Big difference between being a “cheat” and being treated like a cow ripe for the milking. Governments all over the world are now resorting to whatever means necessary to take from the productive people to pay for the promises they made to folks to buy their votes.
Think about Social Securty TAX for a moment. Not a DIME of money was the government’s. I pay 6.2% and my employer pays 6.2%… and for all the years there was a surplus Uncle Sam SPENT EVERY LAST DIME of it on who knows what and left the participants with “Special Bonds” that have no market or exchange value. And when the plan comes crashing down… what then… more “taxes” to fix the last scam? Take the time to read the 2013 SS annual report. It’s a real eye opener! Can’t wait until 2016 when the SSDI fund is depleted. What “New” taxes will come into play then to fix that plan. It’s truly the biggest PONZI SCHEME EVER!!!
I’m guessing you have an Apple product or two in your life… are they tax cheats? Seems they have it all figured out as to how to “minimize” their US tax responsible. Are you then supporting a tax cheat by buying an Apple product?
Taking action to avoid taxes isn’t illegal. Structuring your life to minimize your tax exposure is no different then what every business does out there… and completely legal.
Governments aren’t taking action with these new regulations to crack down on tax cheats…. there are numerous existing laws to do that, that have been used quite successfully to catch some of the largest, wealthiest, and best represented cheats in recent years. They are putting these new requirements in place to make it more difficult for the rest of us to get out of the system! Very soon the ability to use and transfer retirement funds (a big target governments are eyeing) for any purpose that might make it less accessible to Uncle Sam’s grasp will be restricted or revoked.
Step by step your freedoms and rights are being taken away! Wake up!
By the way Steve…. are you looking to bail out of Chi-Town before the bill comes due? Seems between the city and Illinois there is a BIG bill coming due for the taxpayers of Chicago and the state of Illinois very soon! Should you escape before it hits are you a cheat for having enjoyed all the benefits of living there for all these years and bailing out when the bill ultimately comes due and the taxpayers are forced to pony up all that money owed on debts the politicians have been pushing off for all these years to keep buying your votes?
May 8, 2014 at 3:12 pm #201432pixframeParticipant[quote=”sweikert925″]
Depends on the action. There are legal ways to avoid taxes and there are illegal ones. Investing in a tax shelter is OK, not declaring income so that you don’t have to pay taxes on it is CLEARLY illegal and morally wrong. That’s not even debateable. We’re not talking about those legal means here, are we? [/quote]Those legal means are the ones that are gradually being eliminated and these eliminations are accelerating as the governments’ need for revenues increase. The major league players will always find some legal means of working around the laws and their subsequent changes. But for us, the minor league players, the governments’ have already scraped all the crumbs off our table and are now looking for ways to “pocket” the few crumbs we have left under the table, on the floor.
And then there’s the governments’ use of “If you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes truth”. For example: for many (the non-critical thinking population) the USA government has convinced them it’s better to delay collecting their social security (which is the attempt by the government to not meet its obligation to return to us the money we placed in our annuity account with them). Another act of desperation is the USA government’s creation of the Roth IRA and advising people to convert their traditional IRA into a Roth (thereby converting deferred taxable income into taxable income today).
Changing laws and changing people’s “thinking” … desperate times make for desperate measures.
May 8, 2014 at 3:26 pm #201433ImxploringParticipantIt’s funny… but if WE THE PEOPLE were permitted to deduct all the expenses we incur in generating taxable income (like a business does) as well as take the depreciation on our possessions (once again used to generate taxable income) I’m figuring I’d have a similar tax liability (percentage wise) to most of the major household name companies operating in the US…. or better yet a taxable loss! LOL
May 8, 2014 at 3:26 pm #201434daviddMemberImxploring
your explanations are very thorough and makes just plain common sense
Sweikert AKA steve.. comes from a totally different mindset
so really there is no use to try and explain this reasoning as he is wearing a completely different pair of glasses
based on his internal representations of the world
in his view.. all of these actions taken are all just..
for the pursuit of the collective good.
and only if he actually comes across something at a personal level will he be forced to put on a different set of glasses..
in the meantime
pura vida
[quote=”Imxploring”][quote=”sweikert925″]If I incur a debt to you for $100.00 and I refuse to pay that debt, I have stolen $100.00 from you. That would be no different than if I took $100.00 out of your wallet while you weren’t looking. Some people seem to have a hard time grasping that concept.
And if someone found a way to cheat out of paying his legally due taxes, that is no different than someone who cheats to gain some government benefit – say Social Security Disability. Those 2 people are both cheats and thieves. Some people seem to have a hard time grasping that concept too.
So this news that governments are finally cracking down on thieves and cheats should be welcome news to honest taxpayers. I certainly feel that way. I only hope some of the worst offenders are sent to prison as well as being forced to surrender their ill-gotten gains.
I find it puzzling that some of you are on the side of the cheats and thieves. Unless…..[/quote]
Big difference between being a “cheat” and being treated like a cow ripe for the milking. Governments all over the world are now resorting to whatever means necessary to take from the productive people to pay for the promises they made to folks to buy their votes.
Think about Social Securty TAX for a moment. Not a DIME of money was the government’s. I pay 6.2% and my employer pays 6.2%… and for all the years there was a surplus Uncle Sam SPENT EVERY LAST DIME of it on who knows what and left the participants with “Special Bonds” that have no market or exchange value. And when the plan comes crashing down… what then… more “taxes” to fix the last scam? Take the time to read the 2013 SS annual report. It’s a real eye opener! Can’t wait until 2016 when the SSDI fund is depleted. What “New” taxes will come into play then to fix that plan. It’s truly the biggest PONZI SCHEME EVERY!
I’m guessing you have an Apple product or two in your life… are they tax cheats? Seems they have it all figured out as to how to “minimize” their US tax responsible. Are you then supporting a tax cheat by buying an Apple product?
Taking action to avoid taxes isn’t illegal. Structuring your life to minimize your tax exposure is no different then what every business does out there… and completely legal.
Governments aren’t taking action with these new regulations to crack down on tax cheats…. there are numerous existing laws to do that, that have been used quite successfully to catch some of the largest, wealthiest, and best represented cheats in recent years. They are putting these new requirements in place to make it more difficult for the rest of us to get out of the system! Very soon the ability to use and transfer retirement funds (a big target governments are eyeing) for any purpose that might make it less accessible to Uncle Sam’s grasp will be restricted or revoked.
Step by step your freedoms and rights are being taken away! Wake up!
By the way Steve…. are you looking to bail out of Chi-Town before the bill comes due? Seems between the city and Illinois there is a BIG bill coming due for the taxpayers of Chicago and the state of Illinois very soon! Should you escape before it hits are you a cheat for having enjoyed all the benefits of living there for all these years and bailing out when the bill ultimately comes due and the taxpayers are forced to pony up all that money owed on debts the politicians have been pushing off for all these years to keep buying your votes?
[/quote]May 8, 2014 at 3:50 pm #201435Kwhite1Member[quote=”Imxploring”]It’s funny… but if WE THE PEOPLE were permitted to deduct all the expenses we incur in generating taxable income (like a business does) as well as take the depreciation on our possessions (once again used to generate taxable income) I’m figuring I’d have a similar tax liability (percentage wise) to most of the major household name companies operating in the US…. or better yet a taxable loss! LOL[/quote]
Well said Imxploring……there are 2 main issues with taxes, one is legal and one is not. Tax avoidance is the art of utilizing the rules and regulations produced by the IRS, tax evasion is not legal. What they , the IRS, are doing is changing the rules to take away the provisions the IRS had to freely move your money to and from accounts worldwide. All while they spend $90 million for salmon research as folks struggle to pay their taxes.
Technically, taxes period are illegal, something about taxation without representation.
May 8, 2014 at 4:16 pm #201436ImxploringParticipantHey David thank you for the comment! A big problem with today’s “collective good” is the fact that there are too many people in the collective that are happy to be collecting and not enough adding. In fact it’s a way of life for many and has become a generational lifestyle. And making the issue even more serious is that we have politicians that have been more than happy to keep the free ride going in exchange for votes and a consolidation of lasting control. But as usual they didn’t think out the end game when the system comes crashing down on itself.
May 8, 2014 at 4:30 pm #201437daviddMemberKwhite1
well said!!! 🙂
a quick story..
I am a fulltime resident here since 2004.. NOT a citizen (yet)
have not been in the U.S now for a few years
i recently sold a 10 year old truck. but since the seller paid in dollars.. I accepted a certified bank check.
the amount was $27000
had the attorney create all the necessary paperwork to comply with any kind of transparency..
went to my bank.. Banco nacional ( I know it may vary with banks)
and went above and beyond to create a no problem scenario..
deposited in my account with no issues
this happened last Thursday
Friday morning I became aware that my account was frozen..
went to the bank and for some crazy reason there was MORE paperwork.. that needed to be filled out.. sorry for me.. the person who I was supposed to meet and sign was not back until Monday
so for Friday, Saturday, Sunday until Monday morning My sole bank account here in this country was frozen..
everything was fixed.. but the issues remain.. doing any kind of banking moving any kinds of funds puts the total burden on (US) pheasants .. while we try and live our lives.
the compliance officer explained to me..
“off the record” that all these stifling regulations doing business with Americans is becoming to the point.. they do not want Americans as customers
this came out of this womans lips I kid you not..
I asked her is she knew sweikert.. but she said no 🙄
I do not do any kind of business here.. as I liquidated a few years ago and I try and minimize my engagement with all this nonsense
but geeez.. I sold my car for godsake..
I own a few homes here free and clear and I dread the day when I need to sell them..
[quote=”Kwhite1″][quote=”Imxploring”]It’s funny… but if WE THE PEOPLE were permitted to deduct all the expenses we incur in generating taxable income (like a business does) as well as take the depreciation on our possessions (once again used to generate taxable income) I’m figuring I’d have a similar tax liability (percentage wise) to most of the major household name companies operating in the US…. or better yet a taxable loss! LOL[/quote]
Well said Imxploring……there are 2 main issues with taxes, one is legal and one is not. Tax avoidance is the art of utilizing the rules and regulations produced by the IRS, tax evasion is not legal. What they , the IRS, are doing is changing the rules to take away the provisions the IRS had to freely move your money to and from accounts worldwide. All while they spend $90 million for salmon research as folks struggle to pay their taxes.
Technically, taxes period are illegal, something about taxation without representation.[/quote]
May 8, 2014 at 4:55 pm #201438spriteMemberIncome tax is NOT a legal tax. It is NOT a constitutional tax. It is not a moral tax. It is, therefore, not a legal, constitutional or moral debt.
Giving up US citizenship is the only way to escape the criminals in Washington DC. Even death is no escape as they are toying with the idea to claw back money from living relatives.May 8, 2014 at 5:02 pm #201439ImxploringParticipant[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”pixframe”]Those legal means are the ones that are gradually being eliminated. [/quote]
On the contrary, there are more types of tax deductions now than ever. Congress LOVES to add new ones all the time because they’re so popular. See [url=http://www.jamesdance.com/deductions.htm] here[/url]. Those are just a few, the total number is even higher than what that list contains.
[quote=”pixframe”]For example: for many (the non-critical thinking population) the USA government has convinced them it’s better to delay collecting their social security.[/quote]
I’ve never heard anyone in the federal government recommend that. There are some private investment advisers who say that but only depending on someone’s personal circumstances. Sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it doesn’t. The federal government takes no poisition on when someone should file for benefits. I tried to explain my thinking on that ibn a private message I sent you a while back, which I will repeat here:
[i]There is no doubt that delaying SS benefits may not be in your best interests in some circumstances, but it is not as straightforward as you seem to think. There are 2 other significant factors – when you die and how high inflation will be in the coming years.
If I die at age 66 then yes, taking SS at 62 would definitely be in my interest. But if I live to 100 then it’s a very different matter.
Let’s assume inflation remains low – averaging 3%. After 37 years my age 62 monthly benefit of $1644 would be $5054/month. If I delay til age 70 my $3006 starting benefit would amount to $7296/month.
Now if I knew for certain when I am going to die and precisely what the inflation rate will be between now and then I could know exactly when to start taking Social Security – but nether of those pieces of information is available so I will have to make a wild guess. I’m guessing that inflation will increase quite a bit in the next 20 years so delaying SS as long as possible makes sense. I’m not sure when I will take it, but will continually crunch the numbers and see what they say.[/i][/quote]
Tax breaks? For who? Seems mine (along with all the other “methods” that government have been “taxing” us with) have done nothing but go up!
As far as the SS issue Steve… I recommend you wait as long as possible to collect yours. There’s a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow my friend… go for it… roll the dice! What could go wrong! You die… the plan goes broke… benefits are cut… what are the chances! LOL 🙂
I, in the meanwhile, will be taking mine ASAP…. even if I don’t need it I’d rather get MY money back and live on it rather than spend my personal assets down which can be passed on after death. Whereas that increased SS check you’re counting on (if you live to collect it) can not! You on the other hand might not have (or care) about passing anything on to your loved ones.
Once you get your head wrapped around the fact that SS is a Ponzi scheme you might be more receptive to getting your “investment” back sooner rather then NEVER.
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