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At the point where one’s behavior begins to infringe on another’s rights, at the point where an individual causes damage to the commons, the law should step in and deal with it. Not prior to that point! Otherwise, individuals should be left alone in all cases. Except for the above caveat, the idea of legislating morality or personal behavior is detestable and it is tyranny.
Or on another note; what IF?? I want to live in a Walden Pond and all by myself without infringement from society and not hurting or doing any harm to you.
What if; I want a prostitute once in a while, smoke a joint, read the Chaucers Tales book, grow my hair and not take a shower.
What if; you found out I am doing these things, does that give you the right to call a gov. agency to correct my behaviour?
You have rights over ME, but I have NONE with myself??
We are or will be living in a country which apparently strongly believes in socialism. It is a fine line to be walked between socialism and individual liberty.
WRONG:
Costa Rica is a quasi socialistic society but not a true one.
It has a strong Democratic way of thinking but in the old type of way. It is still controlled by the 100 more powerfull familes in power since 1980.
Well advanced in it’s conservation way of thinking compared to the USA. One of the only countries without a standing Army and not only the Vatican can say this since they have the Swiss Guard (mercenaries) on their payroll.
A spirit that transcends beyond borders by the “PURA VIDA” standard, no other country has this mentality.
A country that helped and invited the Jew community when other countries FROWNED on them (1950). El POLACO, (Polish)
Still after 40 years I can hear from a stranger “Con mucho Gusto” and in a sincere voice.
There are many small nuicences in the Costa Rican culture
that are lost to Foreign people.One thing you don’t find in Costa Rica is the “hand shake” ever thought about this one?? “Un abrazo mi hermano” is a mexican thing.
Small details define the Costa Rican culture that make them “UNIQUE”.
[quote=”aguirrewar”]WRONG:
Costa Rica is a quasi socialistic society but not a true one.
It has a strong Democratic way of thinking but in the old type of way. It is still controlled by the 100 more powerfull familes in power since 1980.
Well advanced in it’s conservation way of thinking compared to the USA. One of the only countries without a standing Army and not only the Vatican can say this since they have the Swiss Guard (mercenaries) on their payroll.
A spirit that transcends beyond borders by the “PURA VIDA” standard, no other country has this mentality.
A country that helped and invited the Jew community when other countries FROWNED on them (1950). El POLACO, (Polish)
Still after 40 years I can hear from a stranger “Con mucho Gusto” and in a sincere voice.
There are many small nuicences in the Costa Rican culture
that are lost to Foreign people.One thing you don’t find in Costa Rica is the “hand shake” ever thought about this one?? “Un abrazo mi hermano” is a mexican thing.
Small details define the Costa Rican culture that make them “UNIQUE”.
[/quote]You are parsing words in an attempt to reconcile your conservative mentality with the fact that you have chosen a liberal, socialistic culture as a place to live.
I speak fluent Spanish and have held many conversations over the last 6 years with working class Ticos. They are NOT conservative.
Your conservative mentality supports a strong military.
The Ticos do not.Your conservative mentality opposes national health care.
The Tico supports national health care.I agree the Costa Rican culture is unique. It is a socialistic society with liberal views incorporating some capitalist components but it is NOT conservative.
entonces en Espanol:
Claro que tu opinion viene de la crianza de unn mentalidad VICE-VERSA
De donde sacas que los Ticos “NO” son conservativos?? El parque nacional de Manual Antonio no te convenze!!
Nunca dije que soporto una nacion con un Ejercito
La salud que proporciona LA CAJA no se encuentra en otra nacion.
Costa Rica no es Socialista, no importa lo que TU digas o repitas en tus diatribas. Costa Rica es una Democracia con tendencias LIBERALES, hay una gran DIFERENCIA entre las dos.
Cuantos paises tienen una mujer como Presidente hoy en dia sin contar a Margaret (Inglatera), Gandi (India), Golda (Israel), Laura (Costa Rica) y cuantos de esos paises son socialistas.
You did say that you understand Spanish??
By the way my wife is Tica and my oldest son was born in Costa Rica AND I have lived and visited CR for the last 40 years.
Que tengas un buen dia
[quote=”aguirrewar”]entonces en Espanol:
Claro que tu opinion viene de la crianza de unn mentalidad VICE-VERSA
De donde sacas que los Ticos “NO” son conservativos?? El parque nacional de Manual Antonio no te convenze!!
Nunca dije que soporto una nacion con un Ejercito
La salud que proporciona LA CAJA no se encuentra en otra nacion.
Costa Rica no es Socialista, no importa lo que TU digas o repitas en tus diatribas. Costa Rica es una Democracia con tendencias LIBERALES, hay una gran DIFERENCIA entre las dos.
Cuantos paises tienen una mujer como Presidente hoy en dia sin contar a Margaret (Inglatera), Gandi (India), Golda (Israel), Laura (Costa Rica) y cuantos de esos paises son socialistas.
You did say that you understand Spanish??
By the way my wife is Tica and my oldest son was born in Costa Rica AND I have lived and visited CR for the last 40 years.
Que tengas un buen dia[/quote]
Que tiene que ver el parque nacional de Manuel Antonio con su punto de que costa rica tiene una politica conservativa?
No estamos hablando de conservar terreno sino de que si Costa Rica es conservativo o no en cuestion de principles de cultura y politica. Yo digo que no lo es.Estamos de acuerdo de que Costa Rica es una Democracia (en nombre) con tendencias liberales. Eso es lo que escribi. Pero tambien digo que CR tiene tendencias socialisticas. Tiene usted que admitir que usted vive en un pais mas socialistica que otra cosa.
Would a country that makes these decisions to conserve many Forests and I mean the WHOLE country is in favor of this idea be considered Socialist??
Costa Rica is an old fashion idea of what you might consider a Democracy with some liberal ideas. Imprinted by it’s religion and culture then by it’s goverment.
Ever considered the idea of a Mercado LIBRE?? It is old fashion idea and comes from the 1600 but still maintained in CR
Even it’s transportation roads and infrastructure, which are designed for the benefit of moving a MASS of people, 250,000 people transit every day in San Jose with the Bus, taxi system.
I think you live in a country that you don’t understand completely, deep down there is the real Costa Rica, the one that makes it UNIQUE to other countries.
[quote=”aguirrewar”]Would a country that makes these decisions to conserve many Forests and I mean the WHOLE country is in favor of this idea be considered Socialist??
Costa Rica is an old fashion idea of what you might consider a Democracy with some liberal ideas. Imprinted by it’s religion and culture then by it’s goverment.
Ever considered the idea of a Mercado LIBRE?? It is old fashion idea and comes from the 1600 but still maintained in CR
Even it’s transportation roads and infrastructure, which are designed for the benefit of moving a MASS of people, 250,000 people transit every day in San Jose with the Bus, taxi system.
I think you live in a country that you don’t understand completely, deep down there is the real Costa Rica, the one that makes it UNIQUE to other countries.
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The very definition of socialism is to benefit the majority at a smaller cost to the individual’s freedoms and property rights. Taking the property which constitutes Manuel Antonio from the French individual who was the owner and making it into a nacional park IS socialism, for good or bad.
The term “old fashioned” is not the same as conservatism. Verbal and physical greetings are not a definition of a political mind set. You need to look up the definition of “socialism”. Maybe them you will see your country in a truer light.
[quote=”Scott”]From [ http://www.miller-mccune.com/politics/don%E2%80%99t-legalize-drugs-decriminalize-%E2%80%99em-29133/ ]
“It may seem like semantics, but Portugal’s experiment in decriminalizing drugs (not legalizing them) has had some pretty impressive results. ”
The results are impressive: A drop in HIV rates, a drop in street overdoses and a drop in overall drug abuse (except marijuana). People don’t flock to Portugal from across Europe to abuse drugs. “The apocalypse never came,”
It would be nice if someone in Washington could show enough level-headed sanity and courage to do the same. A Mexican drug war is lapping at the southern border of the United States in a way that communism never did, but no one (south of the U.S.-Canada border) has the guts to quell its driving force, which is the American lust for drugs. Meanwhile, the prisons fill up with “drug felons.”
What do our other VIP Members think?
I am not sure if decriminalizing drugs would have the same positive effect in Costa Rica because the bulk of the drugs are in transit, no?
IMHO decriminalizing drugs in Costa Rica would only produce significant results if they also decriminalized drugs in the biggest drug consuming nation in the world, the U.S.A., which I doubt will happewn.
What do you think?
Scott
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“Marijuana is no drug. It’s an herb”
[b]Ahhhhhnold[/b]
I agree. No matter. Some stooge with a badge or uniform has yet to tell me what I can and cannot do.I think 100% legal is fine throughout Central America. Let them ride in with 1000 kilos, stay in a nice hotel, buy gas, food, tires, etc. Thank them for stopping by, send them on their way north to The Great Satan. Let those idiots deal with it.
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The very definition of socialism is to benefit the majority at a smaller cost to the individual’s freedoms and property rights. Taking the property which constitutes Manuel Antonio from the French individual who was the owner and making it into a nacional park IS socialism, for good or bad.
The term “old fashioned” is not the same as conservatism. Verbal and physical greetings are not a definition of a political mind set. You need to look up the definition of “socialism”. Maybe them you will see your country in a truer light.[/quote]
You have to be KIDDIN me”
“Taking the property which constitutes Manuel Antonio from the French individual who was the owner and making it into a nacional park IS socialism, for good or bad.”
ever heard of the Law that, that, that (repeated 3 times) states “imminent domain”???
OMG, a French who bought out a PATRIMONY that belongs to the whole population of CR was reimbursed for his purchase
I guess you would be crying if the Gov. of CR would take the land out from Mel Gibson. (not Fair??)
when I talk to “TICOS” and try to explain ideas like yours, they LAUGHT and say “GRINGOS” with an exclamation point
imposing your outside ideas to the culture of CR will get you branded as the UGLY American
go to la Nacion.com and post your opinions and see what happens
have a nice day
you it have completely reversed, my friend so I doubt you ever explained anything correctly to a Tico. I am not sure if you are serious or just kidding. Either way, I am quite happy with the way Costa Rica is right now.
[quote=”Barbed1″]A public health problem,drug addiction,can not be fixed by the war on drugs. Unfortunately people who have never had a drug problem WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND ADDICTION. I am 10+ years clean and sober and have never met a non addict who understands addiction. Their answer is always ,Just quit! As long as you fit your narrow preception of who and what drug abusers are you will never really understand the real problem. I never was or met a prostitute so I really don’t have an opinion on that issue.
Just saying[/quote]Legalization and addiction don’t belong in the same conversation. I’ve also found my way out through an on-going recovery process for 23 years now.
When I was in the grip of my disease you could have legalized all drugs and I would still do exactly what I was doing.
Legalization is for people who have normal lives that indulge themselves from time to time and drugs don’t have the addictive nature that it had on me. I was an addict very shortly after my first use at 9. It was alcohol, it became pot by 11 and so on. By 19 I had sold kilos. That was in 1979 when the price of the product was $60,000 A kilo. Just like the disease, the lifestyle is progressive. It grows, it gets bigger,more lucrative, more dangerous and eventually it is the proud owner of another life.
I was as addicted to the violence in miami as I was the dope. Addiction manifested itself into all areas of my life.All the good, the bad and the ugly that people can potentially be and do is in each of us to varying degrees. In other words, we are all capable of human behavior, aren’t we? It boils down the the luck of the draw. Not everyone is born into a nurturing environment with the proper genetic starter kit.
The so called war on drugs has nothing to do with addiction. It has everything to do with societal control.
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