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March 19, 2012 at 6:23 pm #202267wspeed1195Member
Their would be no war on drugs were their not addicts doing what they do for, or as A result of the illicit drugs.
March 19, 2012 at 7:25 pm #202268spriteMember[quote=”wspeed1195″]Their would be no war on drugs were their not addicts doing what they do for, or as A result of the illicit drugs.
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Of course! The powers that be manipulate behavior via economic control. Make something illegal or scarce or both, and the price skyrockets. They know what they are doing.
March 19, 2012 at 9:48 pm #202269Barbed1Member[quote=”sprite”][quote=”wspeed1195″]Their would be no war on drugs were their not addicts doing what they do for, or as A result of the illicit drugs.
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Of course! The powers that be manipulate behavior via economic control. Make something illegal or scarce or both, and the price skyrockets. They know what they are doing.[/quote]
There is a fine line between legal and illegal drugs. On one hand drug companies make drugs they say you need. On the other illegal drugs are the ones people want. There are more people who die from prescription drug abuse in the US than all illegal drugs combined. I do not know anyone who died from illegal drug abuse. I personally knew half dozen or more people who died from OD on prescription drugs. No easy answer.March 20, 2012 at 12:53 am #202270wspeed1195MemberI’m right here in the mix in south Florida. I was watching the blackouts with ski mask pull over cars on 95 headed to the pill mills.they would ( the DEA) stop out of state vehicles that had 3-5 people all looking the part, search them then cuff and tow. I sit in meetings several days A week with treatment center clients. Alot of them. I see the epidemic put upon people by doctors and drug makers.
March 20, 2012 at 1:44 am #202271spriteMemberMost drugs are illegal, either completely restricted or partially by prescription. Big pharma want us to use THEIR drugs over the more natural ones because their drugs have a higher profit margin within the prescription regime.
Government keeps the more natural drugs illegal because, besides the control this gives them, they also want a monopoly on that business. US troops grow and harvest opium for the government and ship it back home to a lucrative illegal market. Drug cartels and big banks have well established business relationships and this is well documented too.
And I disagree that there is a special class of people with an affliction called addiction who are the only ones who can understand it. Everyone of us is susceptible to varying degrees of this affliction. Who among the adolescent and adult population does not understand it?
March 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm #202272VersatileMember[quote=”wspeed1195″][quote=”Barbed1″]A public health problem,drug addiction,can not be fixed by the war on drugs. Unfortunately people who have never had a drug problem WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND ADDICTION. I am 10+ years clean and sober and have never met a non addict who understands addiction. Their answer is always ,Just quit! As long as you fit your narrow preception of who and what drug abusers are you will never really understand the real problem. I never was or met a prostitute so I really don’t have an opinion on that issue.
Just saying[/quote]Legalization and addiction don’t belong in the same conversation. I’ve also found my way out through an on-going recovery process for 23 years now.
When I was in the grip of my disease you could have legalized all drugs and I would still do exactly what I was doing.
Legalization is for people who have normal lives that indulge themselves from time to time and drugs don’t have the addictive nature that it had on me. I was an addict very shortly after my first use at 9. It was alcohol, it became pot by 11 and so on. By 19 I had sold kilos. That was in 1979 when the price of the product was $60,000 A kilo. Just like the disease, the lifestyle is progressive. It grows, it gets bigger,more lucrative, more dangerous and eventually it is the proud owner of another life.
I was as addicted to the violence in miami as I was the dope. Addiction manifested itself into all areas of my life.[/quote] By 19 I had sold kilos. That was in 1979 when the price of the product was $60,000 A kilo.What were you smoking? That is a hell of a price.
March 20, 2012 at 1:05 pm #202273wspeed1195MemberI seriously doubt, without bing addicted to the needle,the rush of getting and finding ways to get more, the pain of the degradation, family scorn, societal rejection,the euphoria,which is adrenaline x10,then the crash.
People experience these things without drugs, granted. Do they suffer the magnitude for years?
I used from 9-28. I was born cripple, sexually abused, beaten unconscious more than once with A mans fist. Bullied for several reasons.
I didn’t overcome these things, I used to mask the pain and killed the little kid so an animal could take it’s place.
It was A horror story that started, when I was born cripple. It got worse with time.Were it not for the NCDOC, nothing would have changed.
Theirs one form of human that can remotely relate, that would be A sociopath.Folks may “understand” I doubt they can parallel that into really feeling the emotion that one garners through the diseased aspect and physical side of addiction.
March 20, 2012 at 1:18 pm #202274wspeed1195Member[quote=”Versatile”]
What were you smoking? That is a hell of a price.[/quote]
in Miami the price was up there when I got back from the army to Miami.From there, as I got to moving about and using my moms club as A contact point, she was A barmaid at the Aquarius lounge on lejune and 8 st. It was A hotspot for the dealers being as it was topless, and just south of Hialeah.
I was there for it’s decline. I did like the deal I had going venturing to the keys and picking up, it really knocked A dent in the price.
By the time it got to 10 grand, I was tripling my money in NC.
I was there with all the crews, the Hialeah boys, the Kendall crew, the davie cowboys, the south beach guys, every neighborhood had it’s faction. You could go to many different clubs and they were like clearing houses.
The most notorious was Manhattans, on red road and the US1 service road.if you had contract work, you went to SIDS lounge on 67 ave. And Bird rd.or the copa across from the old tropical horse track.
Ironically, now it’s A morgue,lol
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