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September 10, 2009 at 12:00 am #197656AnnBingMember
Just wondering, on this page: https://www.welovecostarica.com/public/department33.cfm none of the articles are dated. Is there any way to tell when these were sold?
That one is just 1 example. I can’t find a date on the ones that say sold. A date would be very helpful.
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September 10, 2009 at 6:35 am #197657AnnBingMemberLike this one, I can’t tell if it was yesterday or 2 years ago when the market was better. I’m looking for up-to-date pricing.
September 10, 2009 at 12:37 pm #197658AndrewKeymasterMost articles do have dates. #2260 is a very recent article of about four weeks ago …
There are no websites in Costa Rica that can clearly show you the difference in real estate prices over the past few years – the actual sales data is simply not available… We are all making educated guesses.
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comSeptember 10, 2009 at 1:39 pm #197659DavidCMurrayParticipantI think two other points are important. First, asking prices shown in ads on this website or elsewhere do not necessarily have anything whatsoever to do with actual sale prices. You can shoot for the moon if you like, but you may only make it to the next hilltop.
Second, the few prices (listing or sale) that you might turn up for (say) Jaco, have little to do with prices in Playa Coco or anywhere else. There isn’t enough data upon which to base comparisons and the areas are sufficiently different that even comparing like properties in different areas would render little meaningful information. Even different properties in the same subdivision may go for different prices for a number of reasons.
If you’re in the market, my feeling is that you should look first at the area to be sure that the climate will be comfortable for you. Then look at the amenities. If you’re physically dependent upon expert medical care, for example, is it available? If it’s fine wines that ring your chime, can you get them? And finally look at community. Will the neighbors be to your liking? Is there a community of like-minded folks whom you can socialize with and who can help you get settled, show you around, etc? If you’re comfortable with the answers to these questions, then look for a property you can afford and which will meet your needs.
September 10, 2009 at 3:45 pm #197660jdemaso1MemberAfter having been “burned” in venezuela by a development company owned by 3 judges and with offices in miami, it became very painfully clear that you do not purchase anything without very reputable representation…as you aall know, and with all do respect to this site which i enjoy and value very much, it’s all about los dolares and in all fairness to Scott, on numerous occasions he’s made that very clear. Another consideration would be to check with the Embassies of your respective countries for valuable referals to competent profesionals.
Also, unfortunately when negotiating price on property, nothing is set in stone, so don’t lose your camisa and be tough.
September 10, 2009 at 4:05 pm #197661AndrewKeymasterSorry to be somewhat negative on this point jdemaso1 but checking with your Embassy is certainly a “consideration” but based on their previous track record why would anyone ever trust any politician or any civil servant?
Let’s be blunt, if these people knew anything at all about business or real estate (anywhere) they wouldn’t be sucking on the public’s teat, living in homes they could NEVER afford in the US, getting pensions and other benefits that are simple NOT available in the private sector and generally sucking you dry, would they?
They would have their own successful businesses but that’s not the case is it?
They are clearly TOTAL morons with regards to the economy and IMHO the vast majority of them are business-ignorant parasites.
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comSeptember 10, 2009 at 5:05 pm #197662jdemaso1MemberWith all due respect Scott, it’s obvious you’ve never been in a situation where you would thank those that work as your representative in a foreighn country. a quick true story, in 1979 I was involved in a serious auto accident in venezuela, although i received minor injuries I was jailed for having been involved (albeit not my fault), at that time venezuelan law could lock you up until the investigation was concluded, regardless who was at fault…an american embassy employee went to my hospital, offered to provide money for my expenses and provided me with legal assistance to be released fron jail…grateful, you bet your a** Scott, venezuelan jails are not a
country club amigo. Judging from your response, there apparently seems to be some bitterness, maybe you had a bad experience…I, on the other hand was extremely grateful they were thereMy point was, in my previous thread, was to use ALL your resources and yes Scott, and that includes yours
September 10, 2009 at 5:24 pm #197663AnnBingMemberRight, no websites that are CR based that will show me the difference in prices. It seems this is true.
I just wish that when an entire web page is dedicated to a property that has sold, it include a date of the sell so as time passes, at least this website could provide a better guide. You have properties listed and as they have sold over the years, it seems you would know the actual price for which it was sold. You might not know the sell price of every property you list, but surely the actual sell price and date that the property sold would be better for those that view your website.
September 10, 2009 at 5:30 pm #197664AndrewKeymasterMs. Bing:
This is not a real estate sales site.
We obviously have real estate listed but I do not personally sell real estate.
I am one man working very hard to keep this FREE site about living and retirement in Costa Rica up to date.
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comSeptember 10, 2009 at 8:32 pm #197665AnnBingMemberAmong other CR RE web sites, I just downloaded your entire site to my PC too so as time goes on, I can get a better picture of the price changes. I’m thinking RE has dropped in CR, however it seems one must develop one’s own price watch.
The above mentioned downloads will also give me an idea on how long a property remains on this site and other sites. I’m really interested in the length of time it takes to sell RE in CR.
The download software is available for free on CNET – WinHTTrack Website Copy. It also works well for offline surfing too.
If you don’t mind Scott, I will report back on my findings. I’m thinking I will find quite a lot of downward price changes in the coming months. Your surfers, I’m sure, would love a factual look at the market in CR. I’m thinking CR needs some factual RE data. I will probably download a copy of each website every month then compare the difference. I won’t do this long term, just long enough to provide the truth since the truth is really hard to get at in CR.
I’ve copied other websites (China based) and it is amazing how they change over time… the lies that are revived are just amazing. I hope CR is more realistic than China. Things are crazy in China.
September 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm #197666AndrewKeymasterI would suggest that you’re wasting your time…
In featuring a few dozen properties for sale on WeLoveCostaRica.com – which appeal primarily to North American buyers – my website will give you no indication whatsoever of the general Costa Rican real estate market which I am assuming is a little different from the Chinese real estate market.
So are you trying to decide as to whether you should invest in Costa Rican real estate or Chinese real estate? What exactly is your goal?
Scott Oliver
September 11, 2009 at 7:07 am #197667enduroMemberScott,
I. for one, and many others I’m sure, are VERY grateful for everything that you do to enlighten us on Living and Retiring in Costa Rica. It is very heartening to see lots of articles about what to do or not do re living there. I especially loved the series of articles of the construction of your log cabina… very informative. I don’t always agree with everything on this site… but that’s the luxury of OPEN discussion and FREEDOM of information and expression…Ms Bing… MOST CR RE pages are dated somewhat… prices don’t change… I found a property advertised today that I looked at 2 years ago, still advertised for the same price and on the same website… your search will be fruitless as the information is impossible to corealate! Easiest way to do it is go to CR and look around… I have found several properties that are for sale and NEVER advertised and MUCH cheaper than ANY advertised ones… Another point is that MANY RE companies in CR are either US based or US owned and therefore prices CAN be inflated (not always) but reality is they are just a GUIDE… being in country and getting to know the locals is by far the BEST way to find decent deals IMHO
Enough said!
Brian
September 11, 2009 at 10:39 pm #197668AnnBingMemberThanks Scott.
There are a few websites that change ever so slightly so it is quite easy to track changes. I’m looking for the settle changes – just the language one uses in describing the property over time is of great interest to me. I’m particularly interested in the changes of the ads that condo owners and developers place.
I’m also looking for contradictions. You know, the ones that say the RE market is great, however the vast majority of other postings from those that haven’t a vested interest suggest something else. I find that marketing is very interesting.
Time is on my side since it seems RE in CR is falling like a rock from the sky (can I short the RE market in CR.. haha!). I will take quarterly website extracts and compare on-going. I’m not going to buy while the rock is still falling, that is for sure. I’m thinking that maybe, just maybe, in 2 years, the RE market might stabilize in CR. Certainly it can’t stabilize until “***LONG AFTER***” Europe, Canada, USA, England have stabilized since these are the people responsible for CR’s growth.
September 13, 2009 at 1:59 am #197669AndrewKeymasterCosta Rica real estate is NOT “falling like a rock” and people from Europe, Canada, USA and England are absolutely NOT “… responsible for CR’s growth.”
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comSeptember 24, 2009 at 12:39 pm #1976702bncrMemberScott – I feel for you having to put up with such blatant bull headed people who would never do what they do if they had to encounter people face to face. Only hiding behing their keyboard allows them to be so obnoxious. However, the anonminity is precisely what gives them the couage or gall that they never developed outside the cyber world.
This Ann Bing has nevr explained her intentions and I still can’t figure her motivation excepy to be obnoxious. BTW I still do not understand why people have it out for you … jealousy?
The only thing that bugs me about this site is the “I don’t personally sell real estae” statements which it is obvious that most find as a charade but for whatever reason you do it .. is your reason, and the my way or the highway attitude you have with some of the people that post here. Wouldn’t it be better just to interect less. You know the problem with the written word is it is actually less comunicative that speaking to someone in person. You have less variables to use when writing, such as context, intonation etc. Anyways you would be up for less scrutiney if your were less opinionated.
I still salute you for your consistentcy and hard work. I think you are a Costa Rica legend in the making.. I think the legend status deserves at least a 10 year run though… good luck
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