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January 25, 2010 at 1:19 pm #165288maravillaMember
there was a warning. they said it was George Carlin. that should’ve sufficed.
January 25, 2010 at 1:40 pm #165289soldierMemberFellow members, please. Our soldiers are being killed and wounded in two wars. Disabled vets of these wars are denied earned disability benefits, some waiting ten years for their claims to be processed. Not to mention vets dying while waiting on their claims. Homeless vets are living in the streets of all our cities. The corporations, the government and our politicians have sold-out and enslaved the American people; and some of us are worried about George Carlin’s harsh language! Lets train our youth to be critical thinkers and open minded, to the realities of the world we currently live in.
January 25, 2010 at 2:36 pm #165290jdocopMemberpost removed so as to avoid any risk of offending forum members.
January 25, 2010 at 3:05 pm #165291ChariotdriverMemberMy original comment was very simple,..
[quote]While the previous post may be true, I think it should have been prefaced with the comment that some of Carlins Language is not child appropriate.
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I was just asking for a small comment about the content so I could have skipped playing the Video.
Sometimes sound waves travel beyond the person sitting in front of the computer and I should have been more on my game and realized that George Carlins shows contain these words.
I’ll make sure to either turn it way down, put in headphone or send the children outside prior to playing these clips.
Sorry about asking for this favor. I do love this site and enjoy the comments.
I realize that it should be my responsibility to monitor what my children hear, not yours. Again I’m sorry,..
PhilJanuary 25, 2010 at 4:00 pm #165292grb1063MemberNot missing the bigger picture at all Sprite. Nothing that I have read or researched gives me any optimism about the US. The math simply does not work. I stopped watching network news years ago and all mainstream, sound-bite media. The trust factor with government, media and corporate America vanished long ago. That is why some of us have a plan B and have become selfishly focused on self and family only.
January 25, 2010 at 6:05 pm #165293maravillaMemberhttp://www.brasschecktv.com/page/791.html
don’t let your kids watch keith olberman either. he uses a couple of bad words. the import of the new supreme court ruling really hit me when i watched this, and i have to agree with him that most people simply do not know what is going on, and worse yet, don’t care, but how could they possibly get the real information from watching sound bite news. this is even more disturbing than i thought originally.
January 25, 2010 at 8:11 pm #165294ImxploringParticipantWhile Carlin’s choice of words might be troubling for some folks here fearing some type of “damage” to their young children’s ears… the TOPIC and the FUTURE of the US should be a MUCH larger concern for parents… words are words… but the direction the US is headed and the future that your children will face (and suffer) should be what is REALLY scaring the hell out of you!
January 25, 2010 at 8:28 pm #165295soldierMemberJohn,
I salute you for your service. I do not want to get too far off the title topic, however, I agree and disagree with you in part. I invite your attention to http://www.vawatchdog.org, created by and for veterans. This site will enlighten anyone to the horrors of our so called Veterans Administration and benefit entitlements. There are veterans and disabled veterans that are homeless in my city, I trip over them going to and coming from work every day. This is in part because the VA Out-Reach Program is a failure, vets are mentally and/or physically unable to apply for benefits, and/or are unaware of their entitlements; and, vets have given up applying for benefits because of processing waiting periods of two years to a maximum of ten years for some. There are vets who have died waiting on their claims to be processed. I also refer you to http://www.va.gov, where homeless vet data can be reviewed. Also, no vet, disabled or not, should be in a homeless situation, or facing home forclosure proceedings, after serving our country, in a combat or noncombat tour(s) of duty. I leave you with this: “God and the soldier, we all adore in time of danger, not before. When the danger is passed and things righted, God is forgotten, and the soldier slighted.”January 25, 2010 at 9:21 pm #165296jdocopMemberpost removed so as to avoid any risk of offending forum members.
January 25, 2010 at 9:59 pm #165297ChariotdriverMember[quote=”Imxploring”]While Carlin’s choice of words might be troubling for some folks here fearing some type of “damage” to their young children’s ears… the TOPIC and the FUTURE of the US should be a MUCH larger concern for parents… words are words… but the direction the US is headed and the future that your children will face (and suffer) should be what is REALLY scaring the hell out of you![/quote]
Imxploring,
I would say that I’m very concerned about what the world will look like in 10-20 years. That’s the main reason that I’m looking into Costa Rica as a exit plan, just in case.
But that does not make me robotic to the point that this is all I think about hence the comment about, what is to be known as the “Carlin Incident”.
If I’m in the minority as compared to those that do not care what type of words their children hear then that’s okay also and I will be more careful in the future.
I would kinda think that this would kinda fall under the TOS #7
Not to hijack this thread, 😆 but what is the opinion on how the Death of U.S. Democracy will effect those of us living in CR at that time? I’m really concerned as to how we would fair if we were in CR when and if the US might falter to the point that it might somehow effect CR in some financial way. Any ideas on this point?
The last thing that I would want is to be in a worse position safety wise than I would be if I had stayed here in the US.
I guess no one knows for sure, but would still like to get some comments.
Thanks,
PhilJanuary 25, 2010 at 10:04 pm #165298DavidCMurrayParticipantJohn, soldier and many others allude to simply too many homeless and disenfranchised veterans for there not to be a significant problem. The current Administration acknowledges the unduly long delays in processing applications for veterans’ benefits which they inherited from previous Administrations (plural). What’s more, what you characterize as “a failure to adjust to civilian life” is more likely a failure (on the part of the military and the VA) to diagnose post traumatic stress syndrome.
I had the opportunity to work for a year with a Viet Nam vet who’d made a poor readjustment to civilian life, too. His PTSD diagnosis was made in 1999, thirty years after his discharge.
January 25, 2010 at 11:00 pm #165299jdocopMemberpost removed so as to avoid any risk of offending forum members.
January 25, 2010 at 11:57 pm #165300spriteMemberChariotdriver,
Everything depends upon how much money you have and how adaptable you are. Are you fluent in Spanish? Do you tolerate monumental inefficiency? Can you be as humble and patient as a thankful student in the face of learning the Tico culture? Can you get used to living with less access to material things? Can you learn to love the worn down Tico streets and buildings like an old faded, soft pair of blue jeans?
I am not sure using Costa Rica as an escape from a potential world wide societal melt down is going to work for many people unless they would already be suited to living in that kind of environment.
Also, if you wait till the poop hits the ventilator to make your move, it will, of course, be too late. If you make your move now in the anticipation that things will get ugly everywhere, then you might be able to set up a more tolerable living situation in Costa Rica but that would be chiefly due to the fact that you would be living in the country side away from rioting cities. You could do that in the good old fascist United Corporate States of America and not have to adapt to a foreign culture. (Of course, the USA is looking more and more like a foreign culture to me these days and I was born there.)
Dealing with hard economic times AND adapting to a foreign culture sounds like it would be pretty difficult. And I have no clue as to how Ticos might change in their attitudes towards more wealthy gringos if things get tough in Costa Rica.
Good luck thinking this one through in time.January 26, 2010 at 12:53 am #165301ChariotdriverMemberSprite,
Thanks for all the info and thoughts
to consider.
Also,….If you must use the word “poop” could you please warn me first as I,…… I’m sorry folks,… I could not resist that jab.:wink:
See, I have a slight sense of humor.January 26, 2010 at 8:16 pm #165302ImxploringParticipantGiven the culture and history of CR I think Ticos are in a much better position to ride out the coming storm. The same cannot be said for most Americans. Ticos are much more self reliant and industrious. There will be some pain… but nothing like folks in the US will be feeling. As we’ve seen over the past two years… CR is riding out the problems in much better shape than the US. And the problems CR does have, for the most part, are US related issues that bled south. (i.e. over development and crazy R.E. valuations.)
As for their feeling about “rich” gringos that escape the sinking of the US… we’ll have to see about that! Get your lifeboat set up now. I think most of us can see where the US is headed. How quickly things move might be rather impossible to determine. There was an interesting tidbit in the news today about Japan’s credit… something the US might very well be facing soon. And NO amount of “stimulus” will dig the US out.
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