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Sprite , to clarify what i meant by “taking my chances”, that i would take the chance i would not have to kill or be killed, rather than go to prison or be a fugitive the rest of my life. It worked out for me, but not so for some of my friends. I dislike the military and the military industrial complex probably more that you do. 40 years after the fact,i am still angry at my government for what they did to us in VietNam and what they continue to do. Our house in C.R. will be finished this spring and I will be “voting with my feet” soon.
[quote=”speedo5″]Sprite , to clarify what i meant by “taking my chances”, that i would take the chance i would not have to kill or be killed, rather than go to prison or be a fugitive the rest of my life. It worked out for me, but not so for some of my friends. I dislike the military and the military industrial complex probably more that you do. 40 years after the fact,i am still angry at my government for what they did to us in VietNam and what they continue to do. Our house in C.R. will be finished this spring and I will be “voting with my feet” soon.[/quote]
Glad to hear it worked out for you. Both of us made successful attempts to evade immoral actions.
[quote=”clayton”]Gee he’s so proud of himself. Get off your frickn soap box and please don’t let the door hit you in the… on your way out. America will be a lot better off without you.[/quote]
I can’t really take responsibility for making an educated decision on a moral problem because I was only 19. Most of what was in my head then was the anti war movement and as all kids, I was impressionable. Furthermore, some experts believe politics are genetic. If that is so, none of us can be held completely liable for decisions we make as very young men and women. I suspect one has to wrestle with any decision and then come to a conclusion before a moral victory can be claimed. I had no problem deciding what to do in 1969.
As regards that old right wing, fascist demand that if anyone disagrees with their point of view, they should leave the country; it is probably the best thing to do for all concerned. The US has never been a progressive country anyway, always flirting with outright fascism. Well, it flirts no more as it has gone all the way to full fledged corporate owned government. Clayton, you can have your country all to yourself and your kind as far as I am concerned. I am getting out as soon as I can.
[quote=”chariotdriver”][quote=”Imxploring”]While Carlin’s choice of words might be troubling for some folks here fearing some type of “damage” to their young children’s ears… the TOPIC and the FUTURE of the US should be a MUCH larger concern for parents… words are words… but the direction the US is headed and the future that your children will face (and suffer) should be what is REALLY scaring the hell out of you![/quote]
Imxploring,
I would say that I’m very concerned about what the world will look like in 10-20 years. That’s the main reason that I’m looking into Costa Rica as a exit plan, just in case.
But that does not make me robotic to the point that this is all I think about hence the comment about, what is to be known as the “Carlin Incident”.
If I’m in the minority as compared to those that do not care what type of words their children hear then that’s okay also and I will be more careful in the future.
I would kinda think that this would kinda fall under the TOS #7
Not to hijack this thread, 😆 but what is the opinion on how the Death of U.S. Democracy will effect those of us living in CR at that time? I’m really concerned as to how we would fair if we were in CR when and if the US might falter to the point that it might somehow effect CR in some financial way. Any ideas on this point?
The last thing that I would want is to be in a worse position safety wise than I would be if I had stayed here in the US.
I guess no one knows for sure, but would still like to get some comments.
Thanks,
Phil[/quote]Hot tip of the day.8)
When you move here home school your kids.
Ticos are “evil” they even breast feed in front of other children. And the language ! They talk about horses and cattle giving birth in explicit terms.
Even at….gasp…the Catholic schools.Hey. I’m a pyro. when I see flames I FAN FAN FAN.:twisted:
I have a different view on the economic crisis currently engulfing us. I think the problem is not just the banks, government encouraging all to buy homes but also individuals. People who bought homes they could not afford counting on a greater fool to flip the house to later are part of the equation. Some say they the mortgage broker convinced them it was affordable…but we should all know we cant trust others to make promises that only we are we are required to keep.
Financial literacy is an issue, our schools teach philosophy now not that basics needed to make something in manufacturing jobs nor the math skills needed for every day life. I further blame the government for driving the cost of living and hiring up here so jobs have to be moved to be profitable. When was the last time you heard a politician promise to address the high US cost of living? Health care reform…increases costs to business in the US, cap and trade proposals raise the cost of energy in the US and pushes the oil industry jobs out of the US for green jobs? What makes BO think we are competitive for green jobs with high health care cost, high energy costs and rules on employers in the US?
I agree the US is in deep “poop” as said above. To blame corporate america and the government alone is denial of individuals choice and roles in things though. I think we are seeing the death of life in the US as we know it…and loss of US power due to its financial failings. The US economy based 70% on consumer spending isnt coming back with the state of consumer financials…and now we face rising taxes to pay for the government borrowing which is rocketing up as NASA loses funding for rockets. CR here I come.
The most important issue currently pressing both parties, jobs. The bull is so thick, I’m glad I am wearing my combat boots. If there were such an entity has honesty in Washington and the politicians, they would administer tough love; by telling the voters that the jobs will never come back, because of the global ecomomy, NAFTA, CAFT and other global trade agreements. In addition, americans will continue getting the short end of the stick, as long as america maintains a two party system!
Yeah, we need a one party system like Cuba and China. That would save all the confusion. American voters wouldn’t have to waste so much time wading through the BS. We would just pull the one lever for one of two guys running for office within the same party,…which is exactly what we do now except they give us the illusion of choice between two parties.
We are getting the only government the Owners will allow. Obama handed out money to the banks, kept our troops in Iraq, did not close down Gitmo and, folks, we are not getting national health insurance, at least not REAL health insurance.
The only difference is that Obama is not stupid like Bush and, so far, not a sex addict like Clinton. Otherwise, it has been business as usual.Sadly, I’m afraid we’ve had a one-party system for many decades. The big money elite own the Republicans and Democrats alike. It hardly matters who is in office.
[quote=”Imxploring”]While Carlin’s choice of words might be troubling for some folks here fearing some type of “damage” to their young children’s ears… the TOPIC and the FUTURE of the US should be a MUCH larger concern for parents… words are words… but the direction the US is headed and the future that your children will face (and suffer) should be what is REALLY scaring the hell out of you![/quote]
amen
i still have a hard time accepting GC
isn’t doing anymore toursif your children one day are gonna get exposed to cursing
he is the man for them to hear it from GC makes the F count[quote=”Imxploring”]While Carlin’s choice of words might be troubling for some folks here fearing some type of “damage” to their young children’s ears… the TOPIC and the FUTURE of the US should be a MUCH larger concern for parents… words are words… but the direction the US is headed and the future that your children will face (and suffer) should be what is REALLY scaring the hell out of you![/quote]
amen
i still have a hard time accepting GC
isn’t doing anymore toursif your children one day are gonna get exposed to cursing
he is the man for them to hear it from GC makes the F count.
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The only difference is that Obama is not stupid like Bush and, so far, not a sex addict like Clinton. Otherwise, it has been business as usual.[/quote]clinton was and still is a successful buisness man and community leader
he jolted a massive economy boost for the usa in a way that
was positive for the whole planet the recession was something no one thought would happen again anytime soonbush was always a failure
love watching him grind his jawobama as far as i know did well in community and politics but not so in buisness
guy’s like bush and obama when sitting a table with
powerful men get manipulated easilynot clinton he’s a master of manipulation the republicans did evrything to take him from house and home
they got him out of the house but he still has his home
and look who he shares it within marketing guys like bush and obama are great openers but
they don’t close they get closedthe usa needs a buisness man not a f’n salesman to lead
Have you guys every heard of the Bilderberg Group. We are all just working dummies to keep the elite rich.
the usa needs a buisness man not a f’n salesman to lead[/quote]
Big business runs the government. That is the same thing as having a business man in office. What they offer us for political leaders are packaged sales persons to win popularity contests. The real decisions are probably not made by those people. We have a plutocracy.
What we need, but will never have, is a socialized system like the one in Costa Rica, Denmark, France and some other places.
what business did clinton engage in besides monkey business? what business is he in now besides keeping billary in the public eye?
gwb was only as dumb as the people who voted for him. when the average person was asked why they’d want a president who couldn’t even construct a decent sentence, or who butchered the english language, they replied that “he’s like one of us!” bottom line is that it DOESN’T matter who’s in office; the illusion that your vote counts is just that — an illusion. the same people are ALWAYS in control, and that doesn’t include us!
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