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for the most part, i don’t follow US politics, except when the topic is social security. and then it is worrisome that one of those bozos may decide to cut us all off.
in this great complicated world if you are gonna be a top player such as president well you have to play hard dirty
and well your always gonna piss someone offjust like being 1 parent to 5 kids to the power of ten thousand
in politics and buisness, corruption deceit and betrail run rampid at the end of the day its about who can get the job done
bush and obama have never made a dime for anyone
clinton greased everyones pockets including the american publici do beleive bush was not voted in this was a bullied affair
but there is a reason why they worked so hard to get rid of clintoni’m not saying he was a profit just a good president who
gave at least some people hopemoney isn’t everything but economy is
any of you who fled to C.R. looking for utopia
well if you have found it i’m sure it has a lot to do with economymen like clinton truman kennedy had 3 meetings an hour for twelve hours a day negotiating and negotiating and negotiating
men like bush and obama parade like the queen and pope
then sign where they are told tono one is perfect and also your cats kill beautiful birds
pura vida[quote=”sanvald”]Have you guys every heard of the Bilderberg Group. We are all just working dummies to keep the elite rich.[/quote]
conrad black hosted a bilderberg meeting a big deal for a canadian ,turns out he pissed those guys off some how
to be a leader in even a small corporation or a leader of just about any country you gotta deal with the likes of bilderberg
what i am saying is guys like obama and bush are truly bilderberg puppets
i beleive guys like clinton actually deal and negociate with these guys
for those who have no idea what bilderberg group is
it is where zionism and the iluminati break bread and drink
wineat almost the highest of levels
and if you still have no idea
google bilderberg,iluminati,zionist
get ready to cryI see no problem in discussing US, Canadian or Brit politics on this forum. We are, after all, expats or expat wannabee’s.
It is only normal to discuss what we fled and why. Perhaps there are some in CR who merely wanted to experience Costa Rica and are perfectly content with affairs back in the country from which they emigrated. There are other topics on this forum which may be more entertaining for them.The fact that so many people join in on these political discussions is evidence of some of the stronger motivations as to why they come to Costa Rica. I suspect most expats in Costa Rica lean to the left or progressive side of the fence, whether they identify themselves as such or not. Otherwise, why would they have chosen a socialist country as a place to live?
Most of the expats I have met in Costa Rica
are left of center to some degree. I am surprised that those who are to the right chose Costa Rica as their paradise yet continue to rail against socialism and other liberal ideas and support the idea of keeping a standing army.
I can only assume they are unknowingly disingenuous with themselves and/or others or they are hypocrites.Why do you refer to Costa Rica as a socialist country? I looked it up to be sure of myself, and its political system is that of a demeocratic republic. I’m enjoying learning about Costa Rica and the people who have moved there from the forum, but everyone should try to avoid misinfomation that misleads people who are considering a move there. Most of the postings are opinion, and differences of opinion, political or otherwise, existss everywhere.
according to my husband, the great italian pundit, costa rica’s government is modeled after italy’s and that’s about as socialist as you are going to get. socialized medicine is one piece of that puzzle.
[quote=”Harperanne”]Why do you refer to Costa Rica as a socialist country? I looked it up to be sure of myself, and its political system is that of a demeocratic republic. I’m enjoying learning about Costa Rica and the people who have moved there from the forum, but everyone should try to avoid misinfomation that misleads people who are considering a move there. Most of the postings are opinion, and differences of opinion, political or otherwise, existss everywhere.[/quote]
“A rose by any other name”. Many countries have extensive socialized national programs yet refer to themselves as republics or democracies. France is has a very strong socialized national health program yet the country calls itself a “republic” and the word social does not appear.
In the States, the right wing screams “socialsim!” when the democrats try to create a national health program. But even with nationalized health, we would be far from a socialized state. Costa Rica, on the other hand, is very close to many European socialized models. Besides health, education and other state run operations, they have standardized national labor salaries and are very protective of their labor force interests.
Costa Rica is very socialized in every sense of the word and
my impression is that the citizens are very strongly behind that direction as evidenced by the fact that Costa Rica has no army which has traditionally been the vehicle fascism uses to take power. If you are considering moving here, be sure you are comfortable with who and what the Ticos are. For me, I could not imagine a place better suited to my political sensibilities.If a socialist system is one that might be characterized as taking care of the bulk of the population generally, then I think you can reasonably call Costa Rica socialized. There’s more to it than a public health care system.
Costa Rica’s public policy has been to keep utility costs low with the result that the vast majority of its citizens have electricity, landline telephones, and running water. And many, many have cell phones. Internet access has been kept much more reasonable than in North America. Compare that to the conditions that the population in other developing countries live in.
Costa Rica also controls the prices of the basic elements of the diet, rice and beans among them. That’s so most people can afford to eat.
The legal system, which certainly has its drawbacks, nevertheless exhibits a strong bias toward those not yet adjudged guilty. Likewise, the labor code and the landlord-tenant laws are very specific and protective of workers’ and tenants’ interests.
Somebody more knowledgeable could expand on all the above, but I think it reasonable to say that Costa Rica has a definitely socialistic public posture and that that posture has served the country and its people well for the past six decades.
If you’re not comfortable living in a society that makes provision for the needs of most of its citizens, maybe you should look elsewhere.
Note, too, what sprite reflected upon at the end of his message above. While there are eleven parties represented in the national legislature, and while they do have their philosophical differences, in general they are in agreement about the socialist society they have created.
I was not being critical of the political system that exists in Costa Rica. From all that I have read so far, I believe that it is a great place to live and I do ,indeed, like the idea of a society that makes provision for the needs of most of its citizens. I guess it’s the high school English teacher that is still in me that makes me want words to be used accurately…. thus my questioning the word socialist being used as what I considered a political term.
you can call an elephant a pig, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s still an elephant. you can call a society that is based on socialistic principles anything you want, too,(social democracy, republic, etc, but it doesn’t change the basic premise.
[quote=”F.A Skippy”]Who cares ?
I live in Costa Rica 8)[/quote]I don`t mean to be a ^buzz kill^–but people who think like this are forgetting one key point.
If (and probably when) nearly all gringos stop coming here it would trigger a massive wave of unenployment. Not to mention people in the states and europe not buying a $6 pineapple or a $4 pound of Yuca. Desperate people will always do desperate things-and guess who they are going to assume has something to part with.
I know living down here makes me feel very lucky and gives us many more options for weathering this obviously approaching storm–we are still vulnerable like all the rest to the ebb and flow of the times
In the meantime-maybe we should be stocking up on Rum just in case[quote=”sanvald”]Have you guys every heard of the Bilderberg Group. We are all just working dummies to keep the elite rich.[/quote]
Its very simple–as long as your money is in the bank, you support the people who create money out of this air and use it to lobby for anything they want.
As Henry Ford said, if the people understood how the banking system really worked–there would be revolution by morning,
And all these issues we hear about every day with ^sovereign debt^
Remember, all this soeveeign debt is based on money that can never, has never and will never exist. Somebody typed it into a computer and use their goons to enforce
Cheers
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