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Diego,
I agree we’ve been exporting our “sick culture” as you put it for decades. Remember though, they’ve been importing it. Also, human beings are supposed to be more intelligent than dogs. If Latin America has failed to organize itself politically to offer more resistance to U.S. influence, than the Arab world has certainly failed as well. There’s too much in-fighting. Furthermore, a resistance based on extremism, violence, and total immorality, if successful, will only produce a governing regime which mirrors its beginnings.
The Arab world has had plenty of chances to advance themselves through peaceful means. Their failure does not excuse terrorist acts.
You could make the same argument for both legal and illegal drugs, they have been exporting we have been consuming. I think the buck stops with the producer not the consumer.
“Furthermore, a resistance based on extremism, violence, and total immorality, if successful, will only produce a governing regime which mirrors its beginnings.”
“Total immorality” Obviously you have never been to war, War, any war is total immorality. According to your logic, the Israeli government would me one of the worst.
I think you are caught in the same emotional trap that the US marketing machine, film industry and government uses to snare us each time, Nationalism. Put the country before what’s right. This was the theme of a decent movie – A Few Good Men.
It is disgraceful that we produce such a trash-filled society full of self-centered consumers who praise money and have no time for their children.
Money is NOT the root of all evil.
The Love of money is the root of all evil.
It’s the money lovers you see in the news frequently, Enron types, gambling types, porno types etc who all perform there duty for the love of money by fostering abuse.
Your nationalistic view do nothing but mask the problem by justifying that we are better than they are and if they are going to consume it, we are going to produce it.
Try some soul searching. Your comments lack feeling. More heart/less mind.
PS regarding my tone, it has always been civil; I believe it is internal reaction to my words that cause people to think otherwise.
Interesting!
“I don’t believe much of what our goverment says” And you should NOT. I retired from the Army and worked in the Psychological and Civil Affairs department of 3 Joint Command’s with a Top Secret SCI clearance (if you have worked in the Gov. you Know what SCI means). I was stationed in SouthCom in Panama, European Command in Stuttgart, Germany and Special Ops. Command in Tampa, FL. PSYOP’S has 3 tools, the white (all truths), the black (all lies) and the grey (half truth and half lies).
To give this administration the credit for a conspiracy in 911 is to crown the most stupid goverment we have had for more than 7 years with an incredible intelligence. They use the grey and black propaganda, they have no clue on how to use the white, and besides, it does not benefit them.
They will manipulate the truth to their advantage and twist it with Spin’s and contradictory information making the most illogical lie a truth. Germany used this technique while repeating a lie over and over again until the whole nation belived it.
Now how can we salvage this mess we are in? The Election’s are very close, let’s see if the people with their vote’s change those in power in Washington, DC.We hav a lack of leadership. Unfortunately voting will do little, but throwing all the incumbents out would make a statement. There replacements would not be much better.
If you had to build a new wall and all the bricks available were cracked, it would not make a big difference which set of bricks you chose.
Same with our Gov. The leadership pool is stagnant.
The problem is the media.
The media is the enemy no doubt about it.
They sensationalize until you are so hardened to what they say (with good reason) that you don’t believe there is a crisis even if there really is one. Do you not remember the last Israeli invasion of Lebanon? CNN called it the beginning of WWIII.
That was to grab your attention so you would watch. Do you think they give a rat’s a** about the horror they were spreading in peoples minds?
No.
Presidential debates are handled like title fights; they are not debates that includes people who have the most innovative ideas.
No, its a debate that features the contestants that are most saleable, that have the most story and history behind them that can be spun into some competitive hype, such as Ali Frazier title fight!
Forget about the media giving anybody else but the status quo participants a shot at actually getting enough exposure to bring some solid bricks so we could build a strong government.
We have the most decrepit congress and the most appalling president I have ever witnessed.
What is to come is only more.
Why? Because the media has to make money at the expense of the very people that provide the cash to pay for their security – that’s you and me! We should sack the media, especially the dips that determine what is news. The ones that saturate TV with stories about murder and rape and war. The Nancy Grace types and especially the editors of the local nationwide affiliates.
Their work is abysmal and does tremendous psychological and cultural damage to our society.
“You could make the same argument for both legal and illegal drugs, they have been exporting we have been consuming. I think the buck stops with the producer not the consumer.”
I do make the same argument. It seems ludicrous to me that we punish poor Latin American countries for producing something which has such great demand in the US. Talk about interfering with other cultures…
“Try some soul searching. Your comments lack feeling. More heart/less mind.” So I should let my emotions get in the way of my intelligence?
“PS regarding my tone, it has always been civil” You were most decidedly uncivil in the post about gringas in CR.
“Your nationalistic view do nothing but mask the problem by justifying that we are better than they are…” So, thinking that terrorist acts – killing children in schools, bombing restaurants and weddings, and driving planes into buildings – are more perverse than the actions of the U.S. military makes me “nationalistic”???
OK, got it.
Diego:
You are right in a sense, but people are fed up. I live in Florida and between property taxes and home insurance raising every year %25 this is not the same florida it was 5 or 10 years ago.Hurricane season is almost over with not one landing in the US and the insurance companies still raise their rates. An the Insurance companies reported a profit of $6 BILLION.
Just in my subdivision we had this week over 400 people questioning city officials about these issues. People all over are in a uproar about this all over Florida. Everuday you read in the newspaper of people selling and moving to Georgia, N. Carolina, S Carolina, etc. Florida is no longer a retirement place, it is not affordable anymore.
This is only one issue, if you add the economy, the War on Terror, Medicare, fuel prices, etc. You can see the country is up in arms with Congress, Senate and ultimately the President.
When 1 in 3 of Floridians are in this situation of increases after another and no solution from state representatives they pack the city council and its a free for all with people shouting at their council members to do something. Insurance companies are leaving Florida and the last resort of insurance is the State, they charge 3 to 4 times more. Next year it is projected that 2 of 4 in Florida will be insured by the state. At this trend it will be impossible for people living with a fixed income to stay in FL.
Between principal and interest I was paying in Aug 06, $500 plus escrow $125 for a total of $650 a month. Now (Oct 06) I am paying $500 for P/I and $500 for home insurance and property taxes for a new total of $1,000 a month.
Do not even think that you can live anywhere in FL with an income of less than $50K a year, you will not make it. Median price for a house in FL is $240,000. When you add P/I and escrow you are paying $1,500.00 to $2,000.00 average a month depending on your down payment.
I have still 2 years to retire and leave ASAP this place for our house in Desamparados, San Jose and live PURA VIDA.
“More pervese” That is like asking which fruit is more rotten? Perverse is perverse and rotten is rotten. Single acts of destruction and mass acts of war are both perverse. You condone one and oppose the other because one is against your nation and the other is not. That’s nationalistic views.
Feeling is underated. Its done through the heart. Its not emotions, there is a big difference.
With feeling one is graceful, showing undeserved favor and forgivness. Spiritiual qualities.
Uncivil regading the gender advantage? Tone is left up to the reciver interpretation. That’s your slant. I used no foul words. If you want to see uncivil catch me when I am up on the ranch with the boys or detaining bail jumpers. According to the TV values I see, women seem to be the most uncivil and watchihg the everyday occurences I see women treating their kids and husbands like dirt. They lack tradition and want to be like the girls (I dod not say women) on “Sluts in the City.” Metro males are passive neuterd beings that are lowering the quality of life because they cannot say no to the self proclaimed ruler of the house. If men talked to men like I see women talking to men, they’ed get punched out. Women are continually hiding behind the skirt, Do you see women acting out in CR? I don’t.
I think you are a bit too civil and men need to be men, strong leaders. The military helps with that, Have you ever been in the military? This secular progresive anything goes tone of yours erodes tradition and family. Legalize drugs? Hmmmm. OK, I got it! I think you need to think about legalizing testosterone.
The media created your great leaders. American are in for the big fall unless something dran=matic happens now. They have taken away are rights to self defense and neutered the males. Next its the economic destruction of the middle class. If you do not think the elite are waging war on the middle and lower class, you are walking around with your eyes closed. San Fransico values have also helped weaken the US society. The media needs to be the first to go, Do not participate with it. Blow up your television! Do not pay for cable and do not buy product advertised on TV.
Do not let your kids think watching television is normal!!!
Let them know that the producers are evil and that celberties are foolish. Paris is a slut and Donald’s greed id evil.
Diego,
So, a peeping Tom should get the same prison sentence as a Timothy McVeigh? Clearly, there are different levels of perversion. Your continuing denial of this obvious fact is interesting.
Furthermore, I never condoned one and opposed the other, but merely said one was worse. I oppose both, and I thought I made this clear. Accusing me of saying otherwise and then flippantly labeling me as “nationalistic” is also interesting.
“With feeling one is graceful, showing undeserved favor and forgivness. Spiritiual qualities.”
-OK, whatever. Can you give me some metrics on that?
“Uncivil regading the gender advantage? Tone is left up to the reciver interpretation. That’s your slant.”
-When that’s the slant of everyone but you, who is the slanted one?
“I think you are a bit too civil and men need to be men, strong leaders.”
-I apologize. I’ll try to work on my incivility skills some more.
Perhaps all that testosterone you claim to possess is interfering with your ability to admit errors, and causing you to judge people according to your own particular value system, many times in a derogatory manner, with scant or sometimes non-existent evidence.
As I’ve said before Diego, you bring up some good points worthy of debate. But your arrogant and demeaning style erodes your ability to get your ideas across in a manner which invites thoughtful retort. You’ve behaved much better in this thread, but you still seem to see things in black and white with sharp contrast, and are quick to judge people. This does not contribute to a healthy debate. In fact, it inhibits it.
One more thing Diego, I hate to tell you (I really do), but after 20 years of marriage my Tica wife has removed my spine with greater surgical skill than any Gringa I can imagine. Evidently the female gene for beating men into submission knows no bounds, political, lingual, cultural or otherwise.
Diego,
I couldn’t agree more with your posting regarding a failure of leadership and poisonous media (Posted Oct 20,2006 9:53 AM ). Tell me though, I think I heard somewhere that America’s largest export product is information (i.e. cable TV & Hollywood). If this is so toxic (and I agree it is pretty bad), would you condone other countries interfering with our culture by invading or otherwise destroying our communication outlets, kind of like a drug war in reverse? After all, you said that the buck stops at the producer.
Edited on Oct 23, 2006 06:45
Diego has an opinion, I don’t think anyone here is going to change it. And in the bigger scheme of things does his view of the roles of men and woman, the media etc…carry any real weight or significance. I’m sure the boys on the ranch get a kick out of it though. Hey Diego take it easy on the bail jumpers…they’re people to.Lol!
Edited on Oct 23, 2006 09:14
Gringo T,
I admire you personal honest regarding you wife surgical abilities.
Funny how an honest feeling can inspire oneself an others. If there were more honesty and less political correctness, we would not have run so far from tradition. As in pants and panties.
Metrics on Spiritual qualities: I practice radical spiritualism. I am a follower of the Christ Jesus, but I am flawed and do not do a very good job. But I am His, although weak. However, R.S. is also soul based, feeling based, meditation, visioning, self-leadership. R.S. also requires women to follow men, if their men have spiritual integrity, personal honesty. I am not saying they have to be saint like, far from it. They have to lead. Leading means caring. It’s easier not to lead, easier to follow. Caring means taking time to talk and leadership means standing up to things that you see as wrong. When that bratty kid does something obnoxious in pubic – you sound him. It means not accepting the status quo especially in the mundane events of life.
R.S. is a hard life. You risk a lot. Just like I risk expressing myself regarding abusive feminism and U.S. materialistic society. Americans do not want to hear that stuff. They are too busty trying to pay the bills to think about culture. Got have more you know.
Its pathetic how people judge their self worth by their net worth. R.S. never derives self-definition from money. It derives it from renovating your character. Taking inventory of what works for you, what you feel good with and keeping that. Then releasing the other characteristics. It’s hard to renovate your character if you make no changes or stay in the routine.
You need ideas, and it is easy to have ideas if you are not working all the time.
When you come to know yourself by speaking with others and listening to you inner resonations you see who you are. This self-realization creates a template. Remaining true to the template is consistent character, which shows confidence. Confidence in character is the basis of self-definition. Remain true to your self.
You are you. There is no right or wrong way to be you. It’s like art. It is what you draw your self to be. If the drawing is a true representation of your self, it will be easier to act in-character. If not, you wander. So the image and the person need to be congruent, on the inside. On the outside, life is a matter of strategy, so congruency is not that important as you never want to be predictable, that is if you are a radical spiritualist.
I could go on and on but am way off topic.
“When that’s the slant of everyone but you, who is the slanted one?”
I hardly define what is correct by what the majority believes. The majority follow the lead cows. It is the maverick, the stray bull that has the independency to cut a better trail. The other cows are to busy following the lead cow – to the slaughterhouse. It’s the maverick that slips the killing floor.
A bit too civil means that you exercise political correctness at the expense of you true opinion. Which is at the expense of your self-definition. That affects ones confidence.
You and I judge people all the time and if you don’t you should. Then judge yourself and them by the only criteria you have, your particular value system. If you see skewed results, change your value system. You sure are not going to change theirs. What you can do is call on your self to change.
You equate arrogance with masculinity. All metro males do, as they have been taught to see being masculine as being arrogant. Take your rightful place as a man. Claim you masculinity and lead. If you do not, you have been neutered. A unic.
Hey, it’s much easier to crawl back to the wifey after an emotional slap and ask for another. Hell, let her slap you to sleep and then let her slap you for sleeping. But you have to answer to your self definition, eventually. That is if you have personal honesty. So, I think most men are dishonest with themselves and defer to the little woman to keep peace. I don’t want peace. I want fairness. I demand my seat at the head of the family table.
Also. I take the time to write because I care. I try to be provocative to inspire replies, but its a fine line and I am not apologizing for it, I am merely serving spicy food for thought.
Loutus, What say metro man. Don’t listen to that Diego, or we will all have to act like leaders and then, who knows we might even have to make hard choice and get our women mad at us Oooooohh, beware of that Diego. Don’t pee like a puppy if you are going to read what the big dog writes. And don’t forget to put the seat down. I prefer to p*** outside.
Regarding my long winded post to Gringo Tico,
Last word on spiritualism:
“For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say ‘No’ to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hopethe glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good” (Titus 2:11-14).
Amen.
Follow the king as a man and recive your inheritance. Redmeption dat is closer than you think.
When you can see that we are all connected universaly by an unborn source riding along in various bodily shapes you can love all humanity equally, all life forms for that matter, there will be no need to judge or dominate. If you look at how chimps organize and live in there societys you will see something that greatly mirrors your idea of social structure for humans everyone has there assigned role, it’s very interesting and they get to pi** outside all they want. Mirroring chimp society is not my idea of evolving, I don’t think living the way people did here in the 1950’s is necessarily progress. There can be a deeper broader brave new world that we can aspire to and there are large groups of people out there striving for this and it won’t happen in a lifetime but all good things take time. However we may not be able to change the whole world today we can change ourselves. I have a great relationship with a beautiful, intelligent woman we respect each other, don’t take each other for granted. I don’t need to dominate her to feel like a man, she has never nagged me in the stereotypical scenarios you propose. You define men in such a limited primitive fashion, suggest serving in the millitary makes one a man and how dare we speak out out if we have not. I guess I could call you “Dingo” the way you like to refer to me as “Loutus” is that your way of expressing your manly confidence? serving up a helping of your spicey stew? It’s really very 10 year old boy stuff, don’t you think? I do agree with you regarding the media, hence I watch very little TV. I am sure though I can hardly understand all of who you are from this forum and I know you will never know all of who I am. At the end of all this we are a couple of guys with some opinions about things writing away on a forum on Costa Rica of all things? I wish you peace and happyness and perhaps one day our paths will cross and I’ll buy you a beer somewhere in Costa Rica where we are each pursuing our own Pura Vida.
Best,
KeithL,
Nice theory and maybe true. As in Costa Rica life, so too as in your theory, it is theory and has little practical application – people stub lots of toes and even sacrfice limbs following theory when practical application gets the job done in CR.
Men are masculine. Would you challenge that? Women are feminine…
You judge day in and day out. What color do I like best? Do I think that is attractive, do I find this valuable? Is that worth the time etc. How can you live without judging?
I believe we need to devolve and think that is what makes Costa Rica attractive to the many who have the against CAFTA mind set (not wanting CR to be like the US) and tired of a society that continues to grow even more complicated. They make the world so hard, every day we have to keep on fighting. (Bob Marley)
We do not want to be like the US. If evolution means having the current values shown by a large majority of US society, I will take Devolution. Not evolution. I am not sold on the US education and social values, if you have not already guessed. Do you know that 90% of the Amish choose to remain Amish after they have their coming of age party where they are free to engage in hedonistic pagan culture.
Taking a leadership role is hardly domination. More metro male qualities. Metro males take on female characteristic and metro females take on male characteristics. It leads to cross gender activities and gay lifestyles. Which, in my opinion, violate nature. Therefore are violent. And I oppose all that violates nature. It’s unnatural!
Military is not the only way to develop masculinity. Hunting, martial arts, fellowship with other males, even camping and socializing at male exclusive events develop masculinity.
Of course some ACLU NOW member will sue to be included, but..
As far as confidence goes, well a slight variation of our name seems to throw you into a tizzy. Kinda thin skinned aren’t you? Would you consider that a lack of confidence…
Regarding buying me a beer, well that’s a manly thing to do right there and I accept!
You don’t have to get clearance from the little woman now do you? (just kidding – I hope).
Don Diego
PS One more thing, “At the end of all this we are a couple of guys with some opinions about things writing away on a forum on Costa Rica of all things?” isn’t that a judgment?
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