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  • #173168
    maravilla
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    there are at least a dozen countries who have kicked Monsanto out along with their frankenseeds. and something like 40 other countries require labeling of GMOs in packaged foods.

    Oscar sold his country out when he was forced to sign on to CAFTA which opened the door for all of this. some people are arguing that monsatan only wants to plant a hectare or two, but because corn is pollinated by the wind, there is no guarantee that crops down wind will not be contaminated.

    GMOs are NOT to answer to anything — they require more pesticide usage, and this additional chemical contamination has spawned superbugs and superweeds. nobody knows the longterm effects of these things — we already know that other GMO strains were a disaster and were hence taken off the market.

    the disinformation campaign is being swallowed by the masses, just as they swallow lots of other lies.

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    Guanacaste: Santa Cruz, Nandayure, Hojancha,Nicoya y Abangares.

    Heredia: San Isidro, Belén, Santo Domingo y Barva.

    Limón: Talamanca.

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    #173169
    VictoriaLST
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    [quote=”jmcbuilder”]If Costa Rica can feed its people then why introduce GMO’s. Let the rest of the world experiment if they choose. The governments can’t be trusted to tell the truth about anything. Trust in government that they will do right by us is the main problem in this world. We are lied to on a daily basis so how can we trust any data presented. The water in my town is so polluted that we don’t need to go to the pharmacy for drugs. But still in government standards.[/quote]

    The Problem? CR cannot feed its people. Even rice is imported.

    #173170
    maravilla
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    that is NOT why rice is imported.

    #173171
    VictoriaLST
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    As for Mara and vaccines look at: RE: Crime in Costa Rica
    Posted Tuesday, November 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM which is where I posted definitively on vaccines. So lets not go through that again; unless you want to “believe” that the CDC, WHO, and the health reporting bodies of every nation on Earth are conspiring to manipulate the data on disease and vaccines. Perhaps you want to drink that Koolade, I do not.

    As to organic fertilizers, I could be convinced. As a member of Arenal Gardeners, I have been learning a lot about making manure teas (been using worm tea for years), and, with the lack of rain coming up, have decided to use it extensively. For the rainy season, my organic friends have persuaded me that the slow break down of manure is just the thing for the soil.

    See that? Find me facts instead of an ingrained belief system and I respond positively. We right-wingers respond well to fact. Libtards? Tsk tsk tsk.

    #173172
    maravilla
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    you’re JUST NOW learning about organic gardening? what, no Round-Up for you, Vicki? isn’t it perfectly safe? it’s non-toxic and biodegradable, according to Monsatan. as for vaccines, i could post a hundred studies, but nothing i could present to you would change your in-grained belief system that these things are safe because like most people you hold the mis-belief that these alphabet agencies are there to protect you.

    #173173
    maravilla
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    #173174
    VictoriaLST
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    You still aren’t listening. Expected nothing more.

    #173175
    maravilla
    Member

    I’M not listening? oh that is rich. you just go ahead and live in your little bubble of right wing rhetoric; apparently it works well for you. i’ve dealt with your kind before — it doesn’t really matter what evidence, how many studies, or how many experts’ opinions you’re presented with, nothing will ever be scientific enough or credible enough but those of us who investigate these issues on a daily basis know that the so-called experts that are hailing the introduction of GMOs as a panacea to this, that or the other food crisis problem were also bought by right wing think tanks and right wing money. i’m done responding to anything you say. Every republican i have ever talked to about these things spews the exact same information — you all could be talking heads on Fox News. it’s really quite comical. have a nice day, but you won’t goad me anymore. and really, why are you living in a socialist country when your views of the universe are the polar opposite of everything this country stands for??

    #173176
    VictoriaLST
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    Couldn’t find a non-socialist country with a great mountain lake?

    Do you even look for facts? At least I read the links you post. Well, for laughs at times.

    Facts, woman, FACTS. One vaccine isn’t the world.

    #173177
    DavidCMurray
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    [quote=”VictoriaLST”]One vaccine isn’t the world.

    [/quote]

    Victoria, you haven’t been around WLCR.com long enough to know that a single instance of any event proves the case for all of time. In the case of vaccines, a single adverse event purportedly caused by the vaccine according to any source whatsoever proves the case for eternity.

    So indeed, in WLCR.com-reality, one vaccine [u]is[/u] the world.

    #173178
    jmcbuilder
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    [quote=”maravilla”]I’M not listening? oh that is rich. you just go ahead and live in your little bubble of right wing rhetoric; apparently it works well for you. i’ve dealt with your kind before — it doesn’t really matter what evidence, how many studies, or how many experts’ opinions you’re presented with, nothing will ever be scientific enough or credible enough but those of us who investigate these issues on a daily basis know that the so-called experts that are hailing the introduction of GMOs as a panacea to this, that or the other food crisis problem were also bought by right wing think tanks and right wing money. i’m done responding to anything you say. Every republican i have ever talked to about these things spews the exact same information — you all could be talking heads on Fox News. it’s really quite comical. have a nice day, but you won’t goad me anymore. and really, why are you living in a socialist country when your views of the universe are the polar opposite of everything this country stands for??[/quote]

    I think that you both have been duped. Left or right, you take sides and have been intentionally put at odds so as not to follow the true intent of the government. I think that facts, we all can agree is what is needed for a logical and realistic discussion. With the true facts and elimination of party line items both of you would be much closer. Being nasty and thinking your the expert will achieve nothing. I can think of examples of both sides being completely wrong and would defend their points to the death.

    #173179
    VictoriaLST
    Member

    JCM, you have a good point. Which is why I read the links that get posted and search for other links. It is also why I listen to facts presented in the garden club because gardening here is different from US gardening. I will probably continue to use mixed “organic” and “chemical” methods because I understand that plants take in molecules and aren’t much interested in where they came from.

    I will continue to support GMOs and vaccines. I am not an expert in either but I don’t claim to be. I simply look at the facts, the science, ask questions of people who have backgrounds in science, and so on. I don’t depend on belief systems.

    As for the “true intent of the government”, I hope you mean that the government has the best interests of its people at heart. That – as fact or fiction – is still a matter of debate.

    #173180
    jmcbuilder
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    [quote=”VictoriaLST”]JCM, you have a good point. Which is why I read the links that get posted and search for other links. It is also why I listen to facts presented in the garden club because gardening here is different from US gardening. I will probably continue to use mixed “organic” and “chemical” methods because I understand that plants take in molecules and aren’t much interested in where they came from.

    I will continue to support GMOs and vaccines. I am not an expert in either but I don’t claim to be. I simply look at the facts, the science, ask questions of people who have backgrounds in science, and so on. I don’t depend on belief systems.

    As for the “true intent of the government”, I hope you mean that the government has the best interests of its people at heart. That – as fact or fiction – is still a matter of debate.[/quote]

    The human race has such a poor record with the introduction of new species into environments that form a non-scientific point extreme caution should be used.

    There are also limitations on the understanding science can provide us, along with some very poor science being conducted. Bias has been introduced into data on many fronts.

    As for what the government wants, it is my opinion that the globalist charter with mother earth is the agenda and does not necessarily provide for the betterment of mankind.

    If it did there would be more discussions on population control and more food would not be an issue. Humans are not an endangered species and with our appetite to consume I would think that this is where more effort should be placed. A harsh discussion for sure.

    I would add that injections with mercury in them is a small price to pay to defeat polio that was destroying so many lives. Thanks science.

    #173181
    maravilla
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    except that the polio vaccine was infected with cancer cells and is now believed to be responsible for many types of cancers, including non-hodgkins lymphoma. a new report just released this week. also, the italian courts have ruled that the MMRI vaccine is responsible for autism. and let’s not forget that outbreaks of these diseases usually START in the VACCINATED population. vaccines are not what they claim to be. you can have my share. and if you research the pandemics that have occurred it was almost always the vaccinated population that spread the disease.

    #173182
    VictoriaLST
    Member

    All I can say is “OMG THERE SHE BLOWS!!!!!!!!!” (again)

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