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soflodoug, in the course of your condemnation of marriage generally, you wrote, “Wow, Thank god ive never been married . . .” and we are thankful, too.
Clearly, marriage is not for everyone. You are the living proof. But because marriage is not for some hardly means that it is not for anyone, and from your vantage point of never having been in a marital relationship you are certainly not the one to be asserting universal truths in that regard.
Your arrogance is not unlike mine would be if I asserted that women overstate the pain of childbirth. Like women giving birth, I have never been there and I have never done that, and I’m in no position to comment. And you, never married, are in no position to condemn it.
You would make yourself less offensive and appear less the fool if you stuck to matters of which you have at least some knowledge.
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Well Mr Mcmurray, since you feel it is appropriate to attack me personaly, I shall then speak toward your level of intelligence or should I say what part of your ignorance is open to listen to anything.
Lets talk about some facts about marriage and put a 3rd world twist on it also.
The article I commented on was about a man who married a tica and she took him for his shirt. I expressed my opinion about marrying a 3rd world woman or a pauper*The Prince and the Pauper is an English-language novel by American author Mark Twain*. As discussed in many many articles also economic statistics the average person makes under a thousand dollars a month in costa rica, some much less. Even if she makes more, it is in the culture to deceive for personal gain, I repeat this is in the latin culture for many and they wont tell you before you find out if you are blinded by loneliness and desperation you may not see it either, I have seen and talked to several americans who have experienced this and one guy even gave the girls family his credit cards, do I have to tell you the outcome of that?. Well this man told me he lives in a tin roof hut now like his spouses do, nice ha? I didnt have to give birth to know that either.
A foreign man who is emotionally weak or searching for what he believes in his mind is a happy ever after life in a foreign culture and receives the attention of a woman he deems attractive opens up this man for a variety of experiences good and bad. I dont need to give birth to understand this!
Divorcing Couples Divorce Rate Statistics (in percent)
Couples With Children 40%
Couples Without Children 66%
* Source of this Divorce Statistics: Discover Channel
There is a precentage of marriages that work, but I personally would not take the chance,the downsides far out weigh the good sides and you just have to be more self assured, its all cultural, you didnt invent marriage sir.
I dont think I need to express myself anymore, but by the look of your photo you think everybody wants to sit in front of you and listen. I personally think you are the fool. Why dont you put on a santa clause hat and play the part you appear to be best at, a nice old out of date man.[quote=”DavidCMurray”]soflodoug, in the course of your condemnation of marriage generally, you wrote, “Wow, Thank god ive never been married . . .” and we are thankful, too.
Clearly, marriage is not for everyone. You are the living proof. But because marriage is not for some hardly means that it is not for anyone, and from your vantage point of never having been in a marital relationship you are certainly not the one to be asserting universal truths in that regard.
Your arrogance is not unlike mine would be if I asserted that women overstate the pain of childbirth. Like women giving birth, I have never been there and I have never done that, and I’m in no position to comment. And you, never married, are in no position to condemn it.
You would make yourself less offensive and appear less the fool if you stuck to matters of which you have at least some knowledge.[/quote]
Gentlemen, let’s not get off-topic here. The concept of renting vs buying has been debated since the dawn of time.
Regarding the original Gringo in Prison story, it certainly opened my eyes. While I would certainly never consider marrying a Tica, I must admit I have found companionship for hire in San Jose several times–all rather happy experiences.
I even flew one up to Guanacaste for a couple days to celebrate my birthday a couple years back…sent her home early, she was way too much a PITA.Bottom line–All hetero men pay, in one way or the other, to spend time with women. Some pay as they go, and some pay after they go (ie pensions/alimony/child support). But we all pay. It’s a fact of life.
Just my two colones worth.
Well put Sofloudoug. David’s response obviously showed that you touched a nerve. Maybe things are not so good in marital bliss land. His prison guard condescending attitude was well rebuked on your behalf and deservedly so.
As far as the article goes:
Perfect illustration of fathers demeaned. The domestic violence laws here are ridiculous and the police here are mental midgets. At least in the states the police know what is going on with domestic violence law abuse. Here they blindly follow the law. Costa Rica is far from perfect. My advice is to get a vasectomy. Maybe the vicious women will solve the overpopulation of the planet. It’s time men stood up to these types of women and the damage they do to their children by removing the men from the family, and doing so they create effeminate children.
The boys grow up and the women say what ever happened to real men that can make me feel like a women? These male children are not at fault. Mommy ran out there role model when they were young. Now I hear women belly aching that there are no real men anymore. Duh… wonder why.
The importance of motherhood has been demeaned.. by the mothers. They are not honorable enough to keep the family together, furthermore women now a days are so selfish its unbelievable. In general, their arrogance is nauseating. They think that they are god’s gift to the world when all the time most are nothing but overconfident and under accomplished. Its all a bluff but the power of the puff keep men coming back. If it was not for the puff, they’d have gone the way of the dinosaur by now.
Whatever happened to honorable women and femininity? Women want masculine power and no longer understand feminine power. Sad. I had an older Tica say that she thought gringas behave like men. Now I see that they are spreading their disdain for men to Costa Rica. US culture – that’s an oxymoron. USA – the culture that brought you the cougar! Shameful. There are very few honorable women. For that reason chivalry is dead – and deservedly so.
Whoa – ah there boys and playthings – playeth nice. Now I am here on the is-land with my Russian hands and Roman fingers having the time of my life living on ham, French bread and rum. Okay a little beer too. It’s about 90 degress dockside and nothin wrong with these babes here, as long as you understand they will never be your friends. If you try n cozy on up to them and bear your soul, well then simply put, you are done – toast. Furthermore, they are not from the States and have never been to the States and here in Cuba there is little US influence so I would say it’s a genetic thing with a whole bunch of penis envy. Castration culture has been alive in women since day one. Remember all those Bible stories about Samson getting his hair cut off (you fill in the blanks).
No changing them, nor should there be. The snake like ones are to be held by the neck and don’t you turn your back on em. The angelic ones are virtually nonexistent – an anomaly. So the best you can do is play the hand you got. That means if you are a stud you play your physical strength. If you got financial power, use it. They say the clitoris is the ruler of the world… well cash and power is the ruler of the ruler of the world… That’s how I see it and it works for me.
So if you are belly aching about women, you are really belly aching about you lack of power. Ain’t no woman problem that power has not solved; therefore if you ain’t powerful than keep it in your pants or be prepared to fricked over. If you ain’t the alfa male you shouldn’t be reproducing anyways. Weakens all of us… tooodles . Bridgetttt! I told you I am tired. Go find your little girlfriend and tape it for later.
Good Morning…this conversation has become a bit of a circle jerk….I am always amazed at how many old gringos are in denial about beautiful women loving…and wanting them!
Simple truth is that people are always looking for a way to climb up economically…and if you have a beautiful young woman on your arm…and she is half your age…it is not your old wrinkled body that excites her…
I have been to the BEATLE BAR several times…and I have to admit that the girls are beautiful…and it does build my ego to turn down their willingness to sell what they have to offer..but I have always been cautious when it comes to women…I am not in denial about what they are interested in getting from me…come on guys get real…
I have a friend that fostered a child with a Tica woman…and he really loved her…which makes it all more depressing when he found out that she wants nothing but his money…and I can see the steps forming which may place him in the same predicament as the guy doing time in prison.
I believe that Tica women are more obvious about what they want from a man…and especially from a “RICH GRINGO”…and it is quite obvious…as long as you are not in denial…so stop and think first…or you could be sharing a cell with this poor guy!
[quote=”tonto”]Simple truth is that people are always looking for a way to climb up economically…and if you have a beautiful young woman on your arm…and she is half your age…it is not your old wrinkled body that excites her…[/quote]
Point well taken, just to clarify though, in my case she wasn’t half my age, I was 46 and she was 36… maybe that’s still the same thing, but I was careful NOT to get involved with a kid half my age… and she had three almost grown kids… this was no “hot chick” believe me. I thought I loved her, I DID love her… and she was just really good at pretending.
That is something I think gringo men ought to be more cognizant of. As this person so correctly points out, the economic motives involved are so powerful that investing a year or two in a total lie is easy. Compared to spending your old age trying to get some tico ex to pay his child support, trying to get the government to pay your lousy $100.00 a month pension… living in a shack with 6 other people… in short, the alternatives for aging beauty queens here are dismal. And with the laws set up like they are, there’s really nothing for a woman to lose… 3 years with a man, and he belongs to her, and she can throw him out on the street and just walk away with the money. Sad but true.
[quote=”tonto”]Good Morning…this conversation has become a bit of a circle jerk….
I have been to the BEATLE BAR several times…[/quote]Interesting insights Tonto – but I honestly have to ask, why in the world would you waste precious seconds of your life hanging out at the BEATLE BAR, which is probably Ground Zero for the ‘Scam-A-Gringo’ game?
Put more simply – without willing players, is there really a game…or is there not?
Hello…I never said I was gay…I enjoy looking and chatting with beautiful women…ya can’t blame a guy for that…beautiful women…
I just don’t think it is healthy in this day and age…and I usually am with friends that are interested in buying…I don’t go by myself…hate condoms…in addition to not enjoying being with someone that is watching the clock…and wishing they were somewhere else…again…it is a denial thing…I know guys that brag about their conquests…old guys that sound like they are in 8th grade…
All those ladies are sending money home to their mothers and grandmothers that are raising their kids…I certainly don’t blame the women for what they are doing…much of the same thing goes on all over the world…other places just call it something different besides prostitution…at 100 bucks a session…it is better money than a dollar an hour cleaning someone elses bathroom…I let the girls know immediately that I am not a potential customer…nunca…nada…I am a white haired 56 year old…a youngster compared to many old gringos in the bar…
I enjoy looking at beautiful women…ya can’t blame a guy for that!
I own a home in Costa Rica, and have been going down for a few months every year to spruce it up…I respect the different values of the Costa Rican people…and treat them with respect…the only difference between them and myself…is where we were born, and the opportunities available to me because I was born in the USA…I often wonder what I would be like if I was born there.
You’d still be a 56 year-old white haired guy who likes to ogle beautiful women and hates condoms, tonto. Some things never change.
[quote=”DavidCMurray”]You’d still be a 56 year-old white haired guy who likes to ogle beautiful women and hates condoms, tonto. Some things never change.[/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzing
Tonto I can relate to your story – although you should think about changing your user name as “tonto” usually means fool in Spanish.
Almost all Gringos I know are in some kind of self-made prison either of the mind or by contract. Oh and BTW, never used a condom in my life. Releasing the hounds bare skinned is kind of a Russian Roulette truth serum of sorts.
Ah the good ol days at the Blue Marlin bar. Perhaps no place more fun. Now I remember way back when Key Largo was the place for women. I’d take girlfriends from the states for sex sandwiches. Say 1991, it was almost all Ticas and I was in my early twenties. Even at that tender age, I had to see a chiropractor after a week or so. Now a day I don’t work so hard.
It’s no secret that men pay for sex one way or the other unless you are a stud. Maybe 1 out of a 100 men are studs so the majority pay. At least the chicks at the Blue Marlin are upfront about it.
Most married types and other semi castrates never understand the immense pleasure occurring at the Blue Marlin. First, it gives you a great insight into women and what they put up with from men always hitting them up for sex. You can’t have a conversation with a buddy there without women tugging on you in places at the moment you may not want them tugging on. Yet another thing about the Blue Marlin is the immense amount of fun it is to see and hang out with a bunch of un-caged animals. Yes, most in there have not been laid sense the dinosaur age. They freak out because they just had sex with a model-type for only a hundred bucks and start buying everybody drinks. It’s like a bachelor party in reverse. In the states, you can spend that at the restaurant and never get to eat your food (if you know what I mean).
Women who play men for money under the veil of love do not appreciate that the girls who play it straight only make $100 for sex. You get a lot from a hooker for relatively little. Don’t agree, just ask a man who has been hauled through court and is paying monthly alimony for years – and getting nothing in return except disdain. The big female players in the states are looking for retirement plans in return for occasional sex.
Now here comes the joke. Many guys there have never been with a hooker (or at least they just don’t recognize it), so believe it or not, they think they are on a date! I can spot em a mile away. They buy a chick a drink and some other guy sits down next to her and the drink buyer get jealous (I never buy a hooker a drink. Why? Cause it’s a business deal – just as a healthy marriage is nothing more than a business deal).
These kinds of guys walk into the bar and think they are on fire and as handsome as can be. Well they are on fire just as a wealthy man with a 100 grand car and a bunch of money to spend at beachside restaurants in the US is on fire – no matter what he looks like. Same deal, except at the Blue Marlin they are big fish in a small pond. And that’s okay, actually its smart business when you think of the supply and demand (fewer guys with money / more women without money). The point is they think it is there duty to support the women as if they are honorable. What honor is there in laying on your back for money? Sad isn’t it that most men (not most Cuban men though) think that they are chained up after sex to dishonorable women. Ticas of course know this about Gringos and the milking machine goes into full play (all possible puns intended). That is why they prefer Gringos for marriage and Latinos for sex.
As it has been said before (by yours untruly), women want power. Either financial power or physical power. If you have a little of both, and not a lot of either, then the best game in town is the Blue Marlin, a place that you can feel like a millionaire for a night on a couple hundred bucks. Just ask Tonto and the Lone Ranger Don Diego (oh-oh mixing adventure show).
I can sympathize. Although I spend 2 hours a day every other day at the marina’s gym and am independently wealthy, the little people need to get laid too (Isn’t that what the Brit from BP said.. err sompin like that).
Hey, by the way the new push to capitalism here in Cuba is having some strange effects. The girls are coming out of the campo and in to La Habana. Guess I won’t be seeing any of you soon in Costa Rica where my pals say the cost of living is going higher every day. Here I buy boxes or puros for $20! Nothing better than a Monte Cristo after a workout on deck… if you know what I mean. BTW Lobster here is still $2 a pound, and I have my deck mates grill it open shell and then I skewer it with sausage. Here’s to wishing you were me swinging in the wind on deck and telling yourselves how happy you are with the ball and chain. Time for the dip of the day. DD over and out for about a 20 minute pre din din snack.
[quote=”wspeed1195″][quote=”DavidCMurray”]You’d still be a 56 year-old white haired guy who likes to ogle beautiful women and hates condoms, tonto. Some things never change.[/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzing[/quote]
ZING?….What do you mean ZING?….Your reply was not witty…if you are trying to give yourself points for being clever…you failed…If I was born in Costa Rica…I am sure there would be a larger change in my thinking…and my values would certainly be a bit different…I don’t see too many Ticos hanging out at the Beatle bar handing out 100 dollar bills…
Don Diego…Thanks for your reply…and yes…I am aware that Tonto means “stupid”…tongue in cheek for me…and your reply was interesting…and sincere…I appreciate that…and it is nice to get a response from a Cubano point of view…I will look forward to other responses from you on topics in the future.
[quote=”tonto”][quote=”wspeed1195″][quote=”DavidCMurray”]You’d still be a 56 year-old white haired guy who likes to ogle beautiful women and hates condoms, tonto. Some things never change.[/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzing[/quote]
ZING?….What do you mean ZING?….Your reply was not witty…if you are trying to give yourself points for being clever…you failed…If I was born in Costa Rica…I am sure there would be a larger change in my thinking…and my values would certainly be a bit different…I don’t see too many Ticos hanging out at the Beatle bar handing out 100 dollar bills…
Don Diego…Thanks for your reply…and yes…I am aware that Tonto means “stupid”…tongue in cheek for me…and your reply was interesting…and sincere…I appreciate that…and it is nice to get a response from a Cubano point of view…I will look forward to other responses from you on topics in the future.[/quote]yes it was,of course it was.he made a funny,you don’t like that I like it.
I stayed in Jaco for A long time.
not that you’d care what folks think/thought of the degenerates who went there.(beatle bar)
mostly married men and pitifully feo others.
it is about class though and not money.
when I spend time with someone it’s actually because they like “me”.Can’t stay out of this one. It amuses me to no end. People are such misbehaving monkeys that I find it hard to sympathize with all the complaints. Men over 50 should either still have their wives or have had them and their families and moved on to other more productive pursuits of a non romantic nature. But to still be subjecting themselves to the old biological imperatives of their youth is more than just undignified. It is a stupid waste of time.
Men and women unite for a number of reasons but the only one that counts is the one that nature intended; making offspring. Stray from that motivation and you deserve whatever comes your way.
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