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November 23, 2009 at 11:26 pm #205283grb1063Member
Medical malpractice suits will never be reduced until there is comprehensive tort reform. Given that 75% of congress, including the current executive Oblahblahblahma, that is highly unlikely to happen. Lawyers pass laws to benefit lawyers, which can only be interpreted by lawyers. Texas is the only state that has passed comprehensive tort reform (2 years ago) with respect to medical malpractice. The result has been a 51% reduction in malpractice insurance costs and such a mass influx of doctors that the licensing baord cannot keep pace. Any doctor will tell you that many unneccesary tests are preformed on patients simply to keep the lawyers away. There are more lawyers in the 76 story Columbia Center in Seattle than the entire country of Japan. In Japan, the losing side pays all the costs of the lawsuit….what a concept.
November 24, 2009 at 3:25 pm #205284xmammaMemberOne thing I believe about the nations health care is that Rush limbaugh is making us all sick in the head.
November 25, 2009 at 11:46 pm #205285Moving SoonMemberIf the goal of a health care system is to provide health care for the people then it is a great and tragic mistake to have it under the control of a “for profit” insurance industry.
The existence of a conflict can not be disputed. The conflict causes people to die.
Some things should be left out of the “for profit” machine.
4 generations of my family came (and are coming) up in the Canadian system (yes social medicine) but when you hear evidence from a conservative that says the Canadian system is horrible….he/she is motivated to lie to you. Our family (from the 2 year olds to the 91 year olds) have NEVER had a problem with the Canadian system. Everyone has been cared for.I hear the main opposition to a socialized system in the US being “are you crazy,? do you know how much that will cost?”
The cost is worth it.
November 26, 2009 at 1:51 am #205286Beach LifeMemberI have had many positive experiences with the health care system here in Costa Rica. The first was with a discectomy from an injury I suffered surfing Playa Negra. The procedure went well enough. Even though I was definitely sore from the surgery, I woke up in the recovery room with an instant feeling of relief from the absence of sciatic pain. The fact that there were beautiful Costa Rican nurses complimenting me on my tan didn’t hurt either (btw- I am a hideous creature)
Anywho, in morning when the very attractive nurse ask me if I would like a bath, I told her “You bet your sweet bippy I do!”
She then yelled ” Jorge, Heiner, Don Rob esta listo para un bano”
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November 27, 2009 at 6:48 am #205287enduroMember[quote=”Moving Soon”]If the goal of a health care system is to provide health care for the people then it is a great and tragic mistake to have it under the control of a “for profit” insurance industry.
The existence of a conflict can not be disputed. The conflict causes people to die.
Some things should be left out of the “for profit” machine.
4 generations of my family came (and are coming) up in the Canadian system (yes social medicine) but when you hear evidence from a conservative that says the Canadian system is horrible….he/she is motivated to lie to you. Our family (from the 2 year olds to the 91 year olds) have NEVER had a problem with the Canadian system. Everyone has been cared for.I hear the main opposition to a socialized system in the US being “are you crazy,? do you know how much that will cost?”
The cost is worth it.[/quote]
I can definitely agree with this, the Canadian system worked well for me, Aortic valve replacement, ruptured duodenal ulcer repaired and a pacemaker installed, all in 21 days!!! It was supposed to be only about 6, but the latter two issues arose as I was recovering!!! Since then I have had many tests to find the cause of excessive fluid… after searching for cancer, testing for every organ in my body, it was deemed perio-cardionitis caused by a tightening of the perio-cardio sack during recovery…nothing another diarhetic didn’t cure… My cost…$0 Nothing wrong with that system, I would say!!!
The down side is tax dollars HAVE to pay for it…currently about 45c of each dollar in tax revenue…
November 27, 2009 at 1:45 pm #205288johnklein56MemberI am glad you Canadians are happy with your health care system, but please don’t tell us what we need in the USA.
I also don’t want your 50% income tax and 15% sales tax either. You’re paying, but you just don’t realize it. Your Corporations are getting a free ride. The CAW advertised this directly to try to win work for Canadian factories (which was not successful). Your system puts the burden on the people, where ours is primarily on our employers. Typically they pay 75% of our premiums. My monthly family contribution is $250. Chaulk that up against the 20-30% more tax you pay on your base income (in additiona no deductions for home mortgage, etc.)
Most Canadians believe they have the best health care because they have never experienced the best. Although we have a problem with about 20 million people having access, the other 250 million do rather well. I can see a specialist in a day or two without going first to a GP. My wife was analyzed with a brain anuerisym, and was in surgery the next day, utilizing the most advanced techniquest on the planet.
I lived in Canada for 3 years, and I don’t pretend to be an expert, but that service would not be typical for Canada health care.
I have also personally witnessed:
1.) Doctors maxing out on their income and heading to Florida for 3 months, therefore denying access to their patients. When I tried to return people to work after a Work Comp issue, we couldn’t find the doctors to give them a release.
2.) Doctors in large numbers refusing to accept new patients. Becasue of the caps, they have no incentive to be more productive or work harder and longer hours.
3.) Cities competing for doctor’s with “off book incentives” (cars, offices, expense accounts) that don’t count against their annual income limits. Gee what happens to the poorer communities that can’t come to the table?
4.) Two personal friends who almost died waiting almost a year for basic care.
5.) Incompetent doctors who cannot be sued because they are essentially a government employee.
Your newspapers scream weekly about the poor quality and access to care, and that the Canadian system is underfunded. I know, I read them daily.
I’m glad to hear it’s working for you, but I know the shortcomings of Canadian Health care as well.
The US needs to fix health care for about 20 million, not destroy it for 250.
November 27, 2009 at 4:18 pm #205289enduroMemberI may be one of the lucky ones, but I do realize that the system isn’t the greatest for everyone. I’m not going to comment on the US system, because I haven’t been exposed to it. I have though been exposed to the UK system, which the Canadian system is based upon. It worked well for me when I lived there before coming to Canada and was great for my Mother, but it has similar shortcomings to the Canadian one and is probably in a worse state. Politicians in Canada know this and are trying to fix it… unfortuneately we know what that means…!
March 26, 2010 at 5:43 pm #205290AndrewKeymasterAnybody see this?
[ http://www.prisonplanet.com/loophole-exempts-washington-insiders-from-obamacare-mandate.html ]
Loophole Exempts Washington Insiders From Obamacare Mandate
“No Obamacare for Obama, his family, his staff, the vice president, the vice president’s staff, the rest of the administration, Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi’s staff, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Reid’s staff, all other House and Senate leaders and their staff, all committee members and their staff… the list goes on
A loophole written into the final healthcare reform bill passed on Sunday and signed into law by Obama yesterday, exempts Washington insiders and committee staffers from the mandate that now requires every American to purchase health insurance.“
March 26, 2010 at 6:50 pm #205291johnklein56MemberReally nothing new here, as that was the stated plan all along.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid and all their minions have been challanged since Day 1 of this debate as to whether they will be taking on the same system. They have clearly said “No, we have insurance already”.
Our problem in the US is that most people who vote should not be allowed to. They never think or delve deeper than the sound bites. That’s why we end up with a “man child” as a President.
Here are other tough questions that usually get an “Obama BS Filabuster”:
1.) If this was so important and needed to be decided in March 2010, why is it that most benefits don’t start until 2014?
Seems conveniently designed to jury rig the Congressional Budget Office estimates of expense versus revenue. ie. the alleged budget surplus. It is also conveniently after the next Presedential election.
2.) If this plan is so great, why aren’t you taking it?
See above.
3.) Since there will be 10 years of increased taxes, but only 6 years of benefits (2014 start date) where will the extra money go?
Would you care to bet that spending will continue to increase, and that money will not be availabe to pay for health care?
4.) If there is, as you claim, $500 billion in waste in Medicare today, and Social Security is bankrupt, how do you convince me that you can run health care efficiently? And by the way, who is responsible for those government run messes?
I can’t say that this works any better elsewhere. I just read an interesting article on CR healthcare on page 39 of the Tico Times called “Blessed Event Marred By Caja Indifference”. This is the exact level of low performance I saw in Europe and Canada when I lived there.
Most people who think government health care is a good idea have never been sick enough to seriously use it. Rush and his freinds may be coming to CR for care, but it will be for private care and not public. Those with money get preferential treatment. It happens everywhere.
March 26, 2010 at 7:33 pm #205292maravillaMemberif the medical care in the US is so great, how come it’s listed as the 4th leading cause of death? that includes bad drugs, mis-dx’s, surgical mistakes, infections, drug interactions, poor follow-up care. and it’s not like the US is ranked number one — it’s below CR on the list.
March 26, 2010 at 7:41 pm #205293johnklein56MemberWhere exactly did you get your information?
You’re so wrong that I can’t begin to answer.I’m sure your government would like you to believe that.
There are a million ways to distort the case with statistics. Longevity, etc are all polluted with crime, traffic accidents, etc.All I know is that when my family has been seriously ill, there are in surgery the next day. Never a wait, ever. I know plenty about the others from living there to know that is not remotely true in Canada or the US>
March 26, 2010 at 8:08 pm #205294claytonMemberYou are right , none of this is new. The American public has finally started to see what is in this bill and they don’t like it. The Administration and the Democrats can’t understand why they are so angry at them. Pointing fingers and placing blame like its someone else’s fault. You have the most divisive president the US has ever known chiding the American public on, telling them to” bring it on “, he’s ready to give the people a whoppin. Riiigghhght…… It’s going to get real ugly real soon I’m afraid.
Better yet have you heard the latest out of the labor unions who gave us this beautiful piece of legislation. From The Street.com Here is an interesting comment from an article by Gene J. Koprowski at moneynews.com “One of the nation’s largest labor unions, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), is promoting a plan that will centralize all retirement plans for American workers, including private 401(k) plans, under one new “retirement system” for the United States.” Yes America Obama and the rest of the Progressives are coming for all that you have so they may sow it amongst the poor and illegals and take down the middle class. This war is just starting.March 27, 2010 at 3:00 pm #205295blade runnerMemberArticle from the NY Times on How the Health Care Bill Will Affect You:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/how-the-health-care-bill-will-affect-you/?emc=eta1
Also, the aforementioned “Loophole” that “Exempts Washington Insiders” was the result of an error in the wording of an amendment sumbitted by a Republican. President Obama has pledged that all White House staff will abide by the intent of the legislation.
March 28, 2010 at 1:09 am #205296spriteMemberConservatives complain about the cost of national health care while vigorously supporting more tax money for the military industrial complex. Few examples more clearly show where their priorities lie. Does anyone have an idea of the cost of national healthcare compared to the cost of our recent military expenses?
March 28, 2010 at 1:29 am #205297waggoner41Member[quote=”johnklein56″]Although we have a problem with about 20 million people having access[/quote]
The actual number of uninsured in the U.S. is 45 million with the majority being children.
I don’t have an argument with the balance of this message.
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