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Hey Scott
Can you recommend a realtor for the San Ramon Area? How would I get our property on your site?
Mingo425You can see the details and costs associated with listing your home For Sale By Owner at:
[ https://www.welovecostarica.com/public/2013.cfm ]
Or, if you prefer to work with an experienced and trusted Recommended Realtor you could ask Dennis Easters who handles some properties in San Ramon, you can find him at:
[ https://www.welovecostarica.com/public/3452.cfm ]
Hope that helps …
Scott
“Realtor?” As in belonging to the National Association of Realtors? I like this site and respect its owner but geez Scott when will you finally stop referring to Sales Agents as “”Realtors? They are not Realtors. There are very few licensed Realtors in Costa Rica.
Realtors have a code of ethics that holds them responsible to ethical behavior in real estate sales any and every where, around the world. If they screw you, you can complain to the NAR and they will lose their affiliation with the NAR.
Scott you must know this. Then why the continuing error on your part? Just curious…
[quote=”2bncr”]”Realtor?” Scott you must know this. Then why the continuing error on your part? Just curious…[/quote]
1. We do indeed have Realtors – members of NAR – on our list and …
2. Once you have persuaded everyone else in Costa Rica – including people who have ZERO training in real estate anywhere in the world – to only use the word where it is absolutely 100% correct, we will gladly fall into place and do the same…
Meanwhile I KNOW people will be FAR better off working with our “Realtors” than 99% of the competition out there….
Scott
Scott,
Con todo respeto, change happens one person at a time. That excuse about convincing everybody else to do it before you do is frankly quite well you fill in the blank, and by the way beneath you.
American European no longer uses Realtor in their advertising to refer to sales agents.
If you do work with Realtors than why don’t you promote that. Tell us who are the members of the NAR and what sets them apart and why if we have the option we should chose a licensed Realtor.
Scott if everybody picked their noses in public, would you too pick your nose. Of course not. Do what is right not what is easy, especially when correcting a mistake like this one is so simple..
Also siting other people errors is no justification to continue yours in my opinion. Its an excuse but not a valid reason.
And yes there are many competent sales agents… and I am sure your associates are among them, but no matter their competency if they are not licensed Realtors they are not Realtors. That fact does NOT make them incompetent. It does reveal that they have not sworn to abide by the NAR ethical behavior. Nothing more and nothing less as well as being licensed in the US to practice real estate sales. That is no small thing for someone selling real estate here. That means they have actually studied real estate practice and passed an exam and are in good standing with their licensing.
You have to have studied, passed an exam, be licensed and be up to date with continuing education to be a realtor. Its no small thing.
So why would you minimize that work by referring to unlicensed sales agents as Realtors even if the vast majority of sales agents in Costa Rica are unlicensed. And before you retort I stipulate that licensing is no guarantee of honesty or hard work but it does demonstrate an advanced level of study and understanding.
Its really a matter of authenticity and integrity… and I see you as authentic and integral in your work, so why not be consistent.
[quote=”2bncr”]Scott,
Con todo respeto, change happens one person at a time. That excuse about convincing everybody else to do it before you do is frankly quite well you fill in the blank, and by the way beneath you.
American European no longer uses Realtor in their advertising to refer to sales agents.
If you do work with Realtors than why don’t you promote that. Tell us who are the members of the NAR and what sets them apart and why if we have the option we should chose a licensed Realtor.
Scott if everybody picked their noses in public, would you too pick your nose. Of course not. Do what is right not what is easy, especially when correcting a mistake like this one is so simple..
Also siting other people errors is no justification to continue yours in my opinion. Its an excuse but not a valid reason.
And yes there are many competent sales agents… and I am sure your associates are among them, but no matter their competency if they are not licensed Realtors they are not Realtors. That fact does NOT make them incompetent. It does reveal that they have not sworn to abide by the NAR ethical behavior. Nothing more and nothing less as well as being licensed in the US to practice real estate sales. That is no small thing for someone selling real estate here. That means they have actually studied real estate practice and passed an exam and are in good standing with their licensing.
You have to have studied, passed an exam, be licensed and be up to date with continuing education to be a realtor. Its no small thing.
So why would you minimize that work by referring to unlicensed sales agents as Realtors even if the vast majority of sales agents in Costa Rica are unlicensed. And before you retort I stipulate that licensing is no guarantee of honesty or hard work but it does demonstrate an advanced level of study and understanding.
Its really a matter of authenticity and integrity… and I see you as authentic and integral in your work, so why not be consistent.
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Well, there went one of his cemetery plots!
The term, “Realtor”, has become so ubiquitous that it is effectively a generic synonym for “real estate agent”. Just as “Jello” refers to all gelatin desserts and “Kleenex” is used for all facial tissue, “Realtor” is a catchall phrase to designate anyone who sells real estate.
In Costa Rica, a “Realtor” (whether a member of the U.S. National Association of Realtors or not) cannot maintain his or her licensure simply because there is no such licensure. Licensure in a U.S. state is meaningless.
Likewise, in Costa Rica there is no requirement for ongoing professional education and there is no code of ethics to which to adhere. Why? It’s because there is no Costa Rican National Association of Realtors that has any influence.
This is a meaningless discussion because it has no significance in this setting. Let’s drop this and get back to conjecturing about how many fairies (or Realtors, if you like) can dance on the head of a pin.
[quote=”DavidCMurray”]The term, “Realtor”, has become so ubiquitous that it is effectively a generic synonym for “real estate agent”. Just as “Jello” refers to all gelatin desserts and “Kleenex” is used for all facial tissue, “Realtor” is a catchall phrase to designate anyone who sells real estate.
In Costa Rica, a “Realtor” (whether a member of the U.S. National Association of Realtors or not) cannot maintain his or her licensure simply because there is no such licensure. Licensure in a U.S. state is meaningless.
Likewise, in Costa Rica there is no requirement for ongoing professional education and there is no code of ethics to which to adhere. Why? It’s because there is no Costa Rican National Association of Realtors that has any influence.
This is a meaningless discussion because it has no significance in this setting. Let’s drop this and get back to conjecturing about how many fairies (or Realtors, if you like) can dance on the head of a pin.
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David, sorry but much umbrage!
“Realtor” – accurately described in your post; HOWEVER, after years as a licensed real estate [u][i][b]broker[/b][/i][/u] in Texas, Florida and Georgia, and keeping up with all of the continuing education requirements attendant thereto, (but NEVER being a licensed “Realtor” – which is a designation generally most sought after and accorded to those real estate professionals associated with residential, versus commercial, real estate professionals who are willing to PAY for the designation.)
I was almost certain that when I got my 90-day stamp from immigration I had achieved REALTOR status!
Now my spirit is broken and I feel inadequate to continue with my vocational dream!
Sure it has become as you said but only to the uninformed and out of the business types.
A big thing that you fail to realize is those that have attained the status or REALTOR would not agree that their effort was in vain and more importantly Realtor are held to a higher ethical standard no matter where they practice and no matter where or what property they sell – even in toothless lawed Costa Rica. If a Realtor adds money to the sales price or takes boot (under the table payments) he can lose the designation of Realtor.
What is right is right and if you choose to poo poo it that’s you decision but that does not make your attituse ACCURATE… Jajaja
Just because I don’t take the effort that goes into making toilet paper seriously, that does not mean that the buyers fro Costco don’t take it seriously.
I think your argument is lame because you want to perpetuate the incorrect staus quo.
That shows laxness on your part.
Many people may still refer to spas as a Jacuzzi – but no that often any more. Why because its inaccurate.
But some people do not value accuracy and it seems the longer you have been in Costa Rica the less international trade marks and accuracy matters..
Just who in Costa Rica enforces the Code of Ethics to which Realtors swear their fealty? If there is no functioning Board of Realtors, and if there is no legal licensure, in practical terms, how is the Code enforced?
And if there is some breach of the Code in Costa Rica, just which Board of Realtors in the U.S. takes the enforcement action? Is it the local board in (wherever), the state board in (whatever state) or the National Association of Realtors? And what is the action that they can or do take? If I were an actual U.S.-affiliated Realtor and misbehaved somehow here, just what would (someone) do? True, they could strip me of my designation as a Realtor, but so what? I’m here in Costa Rica.
Can you cite just one instance of such an enforcement action in regard to a breach here in Costa Rica?
While the various boards of Realtors do publish a Code of Ethics, and while they do require some training beyond that required for each State’s licensure, etc, the primary advantage to the real estate agent in the U.S. to become a Realtor is because the National Association of Realtors and its affiliated state and local associations have created a virtual monopoly on the Multiple Listing Service. Especially prior to the advent of online real estate listings, the only way a real estate agent could have access to the listings of other companies was to become a Realtor and gain access to the printed MLS book.
Here in Costa Rica, if I advertised myself or my German shepherd as a Realtor, and if one of us violated the Code of Ethics, I’ll bet a cheap lunch that nothing whatsoever would ever (ever) be done about it — not by anybody here and not by anybody in the States.
“Here in Costa Rica, if I advertised myself or my German shepherd as a Realtor, and if one of us violated the Code of Ethics, I’ll bet a cheap lunch that nothing whatsoever would ever (ever) be done about it — not by anybody here and not by anybody in the States.”
Cool David. So you are saying you can be dishonest and not be caught. Wow, I really respect you for that… I am sure mom would be proud… 😳
“Can you cite just one instance of such an enforcement action in regard to a breach here in Costa Rica?”
Well because there are virtually no Realtors here it would be hard to find a case where one has been disciplined. Second, I have no desire to waste my time proving you wrong or me right.
Yes, many do join for the privilege of using the MLS but your way of thinking, (it’s for greed only and everybody is greedy so it’s ok for me to be greedy) is part of the problem rather than the solution. Its justifying bad behavior by siting bad behavior. Bill O’Riely would be shaking his head at you now… Jajajaja
This is a question of honesty. Integrity.:shock:
Why should you or Scott act in a dishonest way basically by using a trademarked name to which he has no rights. Scott says he has Realtors working with him. That is like saying I have Coca Cola salesmen selling my soft drinks. It just is not true.
So the real question we must ask is how important is the truth to you? ❓
To Scott?
It’s of the utmost importance to me and is the foundation of my self definition. There is strength in truth. Anything else has structural weakness. Personally, I will go with the truth. And it’s so funny that being truthful in this case is not doing anything more. It’s a case of not doing: Writing sales agent instead of Realtor. Huge sacrifice for the sake of honesty eh? 😕
Save for the brief time that I actually was a Realtor in Michigan, I have never claimed that distinction nor has ¡Heyou!. Nor did I ever suggest that it is acceptable to be dishonest so long as one is not caught. All I said is that non-Realtors advertise themselves to be Realtors and there are no consequences.
Nor have I ever justified bad behavior by merely citing the fact of it or otherwise. All I said is that the “bad behavior” under consideration occurs. I made neither a moral judgement about that behavior nor endorsed it.
Until such time as you have investigated the professional affiliations of the “Realtors” whom Scott permits to advertise on this website, you cannot assert that they are not, in fact, legitimately Realtors with current professional affiliations with the National Association of Realtors and their state and local boards.
The fact that I live in Costa Rica (where, by the way, I have nothing to do with real estate except to live on it) does not preclude my continued affiliation with the National Association, the Michigan Board, or the Greater Lansing and Shiawassee County Board of Realtors. I could continue to pay my dues, take online continuing education courses, etc and I could thus continue to legitimately represent myself as a Realtor.
You are jumping to an unsupportable conclusion that those in Costa Rica who represent themselves to be Realtors are not. Or do you have objective proof to support that conclusion — the truth which you hold so dear?
And you are jumping to a conclusion, again unsupportable, that there are actual, meaningful consequences for misrepresenting oneself as a Realtor here in Costa Rica. Or do you have objective proof to support that conclusion — the truth you hold so dear?
Or are you really just guessing?
Jajajaj very funny David.
Why would I concern myself with doing your work to prove your cherished rightness?
I am merely saying anyone who does not belong to the NAR has no right to use it.
Can I make it more simple that that.
Its you that wishes to have a battle of consequences blah blah this and that.
Simple honesty David, is that hard for you to comprehend? If you have not earned and paid for the right to use the name than don’t use it. It’s other peoples property. Its intellectual property theft.
Now David go look up intellectual property rights and post proof to me that you know what it is….
What a piece of work you are my man… jajajajaja
You have your homework and I expect there be no spelling errors if you want your gold star… now run along and get to work… Now was that equally condescending enough for you??? If it was show me proof! jajajaja…
yeah right,,, like I need to prove that simple honesty is the right way to behave…
Well David you piqued my curiosity and no Dennis Easters is not currently a Realtor.
Any member of of the CRGAR (Costa Rica Global Association of realtors) that is not in current standing with the NAR does not have the right to use the term Realtor.
There are currently 88 licensed realtors in Costa Rica according to the NAR website.
According to Bruno Crosby of The NAR the CRAGR is an affiliate organization that is there to protect the usage of the trademarked Realtor name.
Any CRAGR member that is not a member of the NAR is not a Realtor.
From Scott’s site…
“Costa Rica Realtor in Atenas. Dennis Easters is an experienced U.S. Realtor”
According to Dennis Easters:
“I have been a licensed Realtor in Florida for many years and, even though licensing does not yet exist in Costa Rica, we are members of the ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS IN COSTA RICA and we have completed their coursework, which is very similar to real estate courses in the United States.”
Association of realtors??? Exactly what is that?
Does he mean the CRAGR – of which he is NOT a member
Or
The CCCBR – of which he does NOT appear to be a member
Or
The NAR – of which Bruno assured me he certainly is NOT a member….
Should have let sleeping dogs lie on this one David.
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