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May 4, 2012 at 5:25 pm #203265DavidCMurrayParticipant
Well done, sir or madam. Your research seems to indicate that Mr. Easters is not a Realtor in the Costa Rican sense of the term, if membership in those two associations is the defining characteristic.
What remains to learn is just what the Costa Rican Global Association of Realtors, the National Association of Realtors, or the CCCBR are doing about his alleged misrepresentations. Remember, a significant part of my remarks has to do with the fact that no one is doing anything about such apparent misrepresentations.
Please note, however, that you yourself quote Mr. Easters as saying that “[He was] a licensed Realtor in Florida . . . [and a] . . . member[s] of the ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS IN COSTA RICA . . .” which appears to be an entirely different organization from either the Costa Rican Global Association of Realtors or the CCCBR.
Mr. Easters appears, indeed, to be able to claim both an historical status of Realtor in Florida and membership in the Association of Realtors in Costa Rica, does he not?
Because there is one organization of Realtors here in Costa Rica does not preclude the possibility that there could be more.
May 4, 2012 at 7:44 pm #2032662bncrMemberSpin it any way you want David… its still dishonest to call yourself what you aint and lead people to believe through vague writing that you are what you aint, I suppose you condone all that. So if you feel better about it and you point (or lack of one) feel free to indulge in you righteousness.
And what if there are no repercussion does that make it right. No it only shows that you go along with my prior assertions, of course the ones you strongly denied…
Can you spell hypocrite? Now look it up and post it, Or maybe you are a fraud and not really a man and maybe that picture you have up here is of an ugly woman.
Hey who knows, I along with Dennis and David the spin master can spin too.
Bye David…. and nice try… Have fun turning circles…
PS….
‘Because there is one organization of Realtors here in Costa Rica does not preclude the possibility that there could be more.’
and just because there are two human genders in Costa Rica does not preclude the possibility there could be more.
That is like an eight year old’s argument.. Buffoonery comes to mind…
May 6, 2012 at 5:25 pm #203267DennisEastersMemberI found this to be a very interesting and educational discussion. From what I gather this seems to have come about over the use of the term REALTOR, which is a very common term that we in the business have always used off the cuff. This forced me to do a bit of research and I learned a lot. It seems that a very high percentage of the general population, real estate sales associates included, mis-uses the term REALTOR. The term Realtor along with the blocked R logo are trademarked. I am sure I had learned this fact at one point during my pre-licensing education but forgot (I am now pulling my old books to re-read and brush up). In order to use either, you must be a member of NAR, which we all know stands for the National Association of Realtors.
This lead me to pull my license and lo and behold my State of Florida license says : Real Estate Sales Associate (Dennis J. Easters – AC# 5832995). That part I was very aware of, however I was not aware (obviously forgotten) that I am not a REALTOR unless I am a member of NAR, which I am not, nor have I ever been. It would only make sense to be a member of NAR if I were currently practicing real estate in the United States, which I am not. I have never stated that I was a member of NAR but I have called myself a REALTOR. Now having the facts in place, I will be happy to refer to myself as a Real Estate Sales Associate and owner of Pure Life Development. Now I have the daunting task of educating 99% of the population that I am not a REALTOR, that we are all misinformed. Really, shame on me, I should have known this. Really. I found an interesting article on the subject that can be found at: http://www.agentharvest.com/blog/real-estate-industry/realtor-vs-real-estate-agent-when-is-it-appropriate-to-use-the-term-realtor/ as there is much misunderstanding about the term REALTOR.
There are a few things that I would like to point out. One does not need to be a member of NAR to hold a real estate license (which I indeed have), however you must have an active real estate license to become a member of NAR. In terms of ethics, I truly believe that ethics are based in the morals and values that you were taught by your parents and family (or not taught in some cases). Being a member of any organization is not going to automatically create an ethical individual if they do not have it with-in themselves to be ethical. I feel that NAR is a wonderful organization that serves a great purpose for members and the protection of the general public.
Having a license issued by your state of residence, Florida in my case, the state holds you to a high code of ethics and standards similar to that of NAR. FREC or the Florida Real Estate Commission, has specific requirements, including finger printing and background checks as part of the licensing process. You can read more at: http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/re/documents/FREC_FAQs.pdf. I am very confident in my 16 years experience and abilities in real estate and our continued success is proof of that. Our goal is to educate our clients, provide them with all the possible facts and then let them make their decision based on the information at hand.
In terms of being members of CBR, (Camara Costarricense de Corrdeores de Bienes Raices), http://www.camara.cr/new/ , we, meaning Pure Life Development are indeed members, and we can be found at the following link: http://www.camara.cr/new/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=6, Gerardo Gonzalez-Porras with Carne #1785, who is my business associate and 1/2 owner of Pure Life Development. I thank everyone in the thread for an interesting and educational discussion!
Pura Vida,
DennisMay 6, 2012 at 8:38 pm #2032682bncrMemberWell you are most welcome Dennis…
And did you find it interesting that on this site there actually might be professionals who know about real estate law, ethics and sales?
“It would only make sense to be a member of NAR if I were currently practicing real estate in the United States, which I am not. I have never stated that I was a member of NAR but I have called myself a REALTOR. Now having the facts in place, I will be happy to refer to myself as a Real Estate Sales Associate and owner of Pure Life Development. Now I have the daunting task of educating 99% of the population that I am not a REALTOR, that we are all misinformed.”
Hi Dennis – this is the guy you and Scott and obviously David believe to be a nitpicker. Do you want to live with someone who is a nitpicker? Jajaja – probally not. Now, do you want someone executing your real estate transaction that is a nitpicker. I do.
I really want to stop all this and if people would simply own up to the truth of it all I would stop, but my God. First the David spin and now the Dennis spins. I am sorry but it’s like the Winchel Mahoney Show featuring Jerry Mahoney and Knuckle Head Smith…
“It would only make sense to be a member of NAR if I were currently practicing real estate in the United States, which I am not.”
If this line of logic is correct, than why (as you have stated) are you maintaining your license in Florida? Following your logic, if the rules of the Florida RE association and the NAR are similar, why the need to keep the Florida license or belong to the NAR, – because you sell real estate in Costa Rica. You tout one and poo poo the other but neither pertain to selling real estate here. According to your logic, neither is applicable to Costa Rica. Is this pretzel logic or just spinning an excuse after being exposed as less than accurate/truthful – you pick.
This one is my favorite –
“I have never stated that I was a member of NAR but I have called myself a REALTOR.”
Jajajajaja – Saying that you are a Realtor is stating that you are a member of the NAR!
“Now I have the daunting task of educating 99% of the population that I am not a REALTOR, that we are all misinformed.”
You were misinformed? Why? Did they tell you that you were a Realtor in real estate school? I think maybe uninformed might be the better word. In addition, we, exactly whom is “we?” You and the Costa Rican frog in your pocket that secretes a venom causing forgetfulness?
I am not misinformed/uninformed and I would say beside Dennis, 99% of the people I have dealt with in more than a couple of US real estate transactions darn well know the difference between a sales agent and a Realtor.
At least Scott’s argument that it really makes little difference, has some merit. He did not point out that he was unaware that a sales agent is not a Realtor. I find it hard to believe that anyone in the business does not know the difference. To retort, having membership in the NAR signifies that there have been no actions taken against you to revoke membership.
Also Dennis the sales agent, the NAR holds you to its ethical standards on any transaction you partake in worldwide! I don’t believe the state of Florida holds you to their code of ethics outside the state of Florida.
Now the general public may not know the difference between a sales agent and a Realtor, however it’s not the general public in the US that is brokering property. Here in Costa Rica any moron can sell real estate (and frequently do) and make a hell of a mess out of it as well.
My point? Astute buyers should not and do not rely on the public to execute a real estate transaction. They depend on licensed agents, and therefore they are assured by passing the licensing, that an at least basically educated individual is handling contracts that are usually at least in the hundreds of thousands of dollars range.
So you want to make sure that person is educated. Well-educated real estate licensees, the majority that I have met, all know the difference between a sales agent and a Realtor, except Dennis (and maybe his frog as well) who “forgot.”
Implausible to me at best.. who knows..
Lastly, there is this:
“we are members of the ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS IN COSTA RICA and we have completed their coursework, which is very similar to real estate courses in the United States.”
You said your partner is a member. “We” implies you and him (or are you referring to the mind numbing frog again?). If you are not a member than obviously you did not complete the coursework. We are talking about you Dennis, not your partner and I believe the article implies you are speaking about yourself in general.
This is the kind of stuff that provokes people like me that just can’t stand people who try to wiggle out of the truth with more misinformation and between the lines blur.
Why don’t you just say that, Hey, the ball busting guy is right. I said I am a Realtor. I’m not. I implied I took coursework for this, I didn’t, my partner did though, etc, and thus put an end to it. You have not learned from Clinton or Nixon that the cover-up is worse than the offense…
Ok Dennis, How about a David “honey-do list” request:
Show us your stuff since you want to impress upon us your real estate prowess. How about something interesting like contrasting and comparing the disclosure laws in the US and Costa Rica.
Toodles!
The Ball Buster
jajaja
May 6, 2012 at 10:50 pm #203269AndrewKeymasterI don’t believe we’ve ever met “2bncr” but since we’re on the topic of using titles with or without official authorization, please answer me this:
Your registration on WeLoveCostaRica.com is unusual in that you do include a last name but you do not include a first name…
Instead of a first name, in the first name field you have put “Doctor”…
Does that mean that your first name is Doctor or that you are in fact a Doctor?
Just asking because if you’re not actually a Doctor…?
Scott
May 7, 2012 at 3:04 pm #2032702bncrMemberComon you guys,, Am I really not making sense? Look first of all in Dennis case its a commercial application, in my case its a nickname given to me because when I played in a band as a kid i often wore doctors scrubs from a hospital I worked at part time paying my way through college. I didn’t have time to change so I showed up at the gigs in scrubs. They started calling me Doc or Doctor. The name stuck.
Now that has nothing to do with infringing on trademarks and marketing services. You don’t see me offering medical advice do you?
So I realize I am unpopular on this topic because I am trying to keep people honest, and accurate, but now you are really reaching…
Why don’t you try retorting my points rather than attacking my honesty.
May 7, 2012 at 3:58 pm #203271AndrewKeymasterMy girlfriend always requests “Kleenex” even when it’s not actually a “Kleenex” but another brand of tissue, she also buys me “Q-Tips” which are not actually the real brand of Q-Tips (unfortunately) but another brand…
How many times a day does someone go into a pharmacy to request a particular drug and walk out with another brand?
Do a search online and see how many homes and apartments are being sold with a Jacuzzi, even though it’s another brand of hot tub and NOT a Jacuzzi.
Over the past ten years, I have written about dozens of “developers” who were not really developers… Some of those articles remain on WeLoveCostaRica.com (when their attorneys haven’t forced me to remove them…)
I also know of a few cases where people who were legally entitled to call themselves “Realtors” in Costa Rica have misrepresented themselves and ripped people off…
After nearly a decade of being online, I know of NO cases where the Recommended Realtors featured on WeLoveCostaRica.com have done the same so I honestly believe that I am keeping “people honest, and accurate” because I’ll rip them to shreds – in writing – if they mistreat our VIP Members.
Dennis Easters in particular has impeccable references – which were checked personally by me – and he and Gerardo continue to do a fantastic job for the VIP Members we have who are hoping to buy properties in the Atenas area.
I know of no other website in Costa Rica that has done more to try and protect real estate buyers in Costa Rica but if you can name one, I’ll be happy to take a look.
So in conclusion 2bncr, please forgive me but I simply don’t have the time to retort to every single post in the Discussion Forum, while most “Realtors” are starving to death for lack of business, thanks to my honest, no BS, professional marketing in both English and Spanish that educates and empowers real estate buyers – sales have been spectacular for the “Realtors” and “sales agents” in our area since December 2011.
In fact I have been contacted by a number of other real estate developers (real ones…) in other Central American countries who have requested my help with their marketing but time is limited and I’m really trying to work less not more.
PS. If you know that dude ‘Scott’ who owns the toilet paper company, tell him I’m pissed they don’t even give me a discount never mind a percentage of sales!
Written by Scott Oliver, author of 1: How To Buy Costa Rica Real Estate Without Losing Your Camisa, 2: Costa Rica Real Estate Scams & How To Avoid Them, 3. Costa Rica’s Guide To Making Money Offshore and 4. ¿Cómo Comprar Bienes Raices en Costa Rica, Sin Perder Su Camisa?
Scott Oliver’s Four Books.May 7, 2012 at 4:43 pm #2032722bncrMemberAll you have stated above has merit.
However it has nothing to do with my specific points.
Good luck and I wish you continued success! Dennis too!
June 1, 2012 at 11:07 pm #2032732bncrMemberDennis the Realtor Easter!
jajajaja
“All of our Recommended Realtors LOVE
living in Costa Rica.”So much for accuracy eh?
June 1, 2012 at 11:15 pm #203274AndrewKeymasterThis getting pretty bloody childish…
Are you saying Dennis Easters doesn’t love living in Costa Rica?
Answer me that and then let’s try and spend our time on more important matters, eh?
Scott
June 1, 2012 at 11:27 pm #2032752bncrMemberJajajaja regardless of what he loves (and when), HE IS NOT A REALTOR!!!! The term realtor, is not something he has earned or has the right to use. I know you get it and I know you are a funny guy! And a stubborn as a mule! Even when you are wrong!!! Jajaja
Oh I liked the grumpy old man thing as well. gee, who would that be? Is he a Realtor too,,, jajajaja. We are all Realtors right. Its a Realtor world.
Two Realtors walk into a bar… One Realtor says to a Gladiator….
Good night
June 1, 2012 at 11:35 pm #203276AndrewKeymaster[size=200]THIS THREAD IS NOW MOST DEFINITELY CLOSED…[/size]
Scott
June 2, 2012 at 12:03 am #2032772bncrMember[size=200]Jajajajajajajaja[/size][b][i][u][/u][/i][/b]:twisted:
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