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All of that sounds rather incredulous and I will need to research some of those claims unless there any other Canadians out there who can substantiate or refute the above.
Why would Owners want to entirely replace one culture with another? Workers’ wages can be dramatically brought down with much less immigration simply by exporting jobs at a faster rate and applying stronger measures against unions and socialistic government protections.
In any case, any Canadian hoping to escape a culture which engenders large families might want to think twice about moving to Costa Rica. Perhaps the elderly are treated with more respect in Tico land, but there are a slew of other cultural differences which have to be faced, differences which may resemble some of the Caribbean cultures referred to above.
Although I wasn’t going to add anything more to this post, I changed my mind.
The originator of the post in question, obviously has a problem, and it seems to be the area he is living in. So, don’t judge Canada or Canadians by one racist.
He hasn’t said that he has even been to Costa Rica, has he?
Or let us know his [i]’sign in name'[/i] to see if & how he had expressed his opinions in the past.
Has he made any response to any of our replies?
Since we have not lived in Canada for 9 years, and lived in a different province I know that my experiences will differ from his, but when returning or talking to recent ex-pats, I have never heard what he has stated. Displeasure with the tax system, sure.[quote=”clayton”]I would say if he is looking for a Christian, actually Catholic Nation he has come to the right spot. I’m curious how those professed atheist out there can stand so much love of faith you find here in Costa Rica.[/quote]
Atheism has nothing to do with being able to stand other people’s love of faith. It is simply a worldview not held by the majority of people. Most atheists are skeptics, humanists and freethinkers who tend to question those things for which empirical evidence cannot be provided. I have no problem with people believing whatever they want to believe in, whether it is god, a witchdoctor, an alien, the easter bunny or the flying spaghetti monster.
But when that belief causes people to wage war on those that don’t subscribe to their beliefs, well then I have a problem. I’m not singling out any religion, because history shows us that many wars, conflicts, inconcievable torture and human suffering has been unleashed on humanity in the name of every religion there ever was or is.
The religious silliness is no greater in Costa Rica than it is in the US. I have seen a Tico dragging a cross up a pot hole filled road south of Arenal on good friday and I have seen a cuban carrying a cross (with a wheel at the base) up Calle Ocho in Miami.
Religious delusion respects no national borders. In fact, nobody can win the office of the US presidency without first proclaiming a devout belief in the absolute nonsense of some religion. It is everywhere and it is a long running epidemic which has continually decimated human potential since our beginning.
Reason by itself can not explain reason. Science cannot, by itself, explain why there is science. Reason and science can explain the existence of matter, the existence of the universe, the existence of life, but they can not explain why they exist. They can explain the existence of consciousness, but they can not explain why there is consciousness.
Science is a critical aspect of human existence, but it can not address the spiritual nature of man. In this respect, science is a dead end around which the Atheist refuses to reason.
Reason itself informs man of its own limitation and, in doing so, directs him to the discovery of a force greater than himselfClayton, religion doesn’t explain anything. It is wishful thinking at its least harmful, and it is clinical mass delusion claiming to know more than it could possibly knowa at its most dangerous. We just don’t need it any longer since science has explained enough for us to get grasp on reality.
I hear ya. And I acknowledge that most wars have been faught along religious fault lines. But I would put forth that a moral conscience is only derived from moral teachings.And as George Washington said, “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable results…..And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.”
[quote=”clayton”]Reason by itself can not explain reason. Science cannot, by itself, explain why there is science. Reason and science can explain the existence of matter, the existence of the universe, the existence of life, but they can not explain why they exist. They can explain the existence of consciousness, but they can not explain why there is consciousness.
Science is a critical aspect of human existence, but it can not address the spiritual nature of man. In this respect, science is a dead end around which the Atheist refuses to reason.
Reason itself informs man of its own limitation and, in doing so, directs him to the discovery of a force greater than himself[/quote]
Or…visa-versa. Heavy, man, heavy. Science did give us LSD, which led us to…the above. Brain candy, yummmmm.[quote=”clayton”]..And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.”[/quote]
It is already established knowledge that morality existed well before religion came along. And religion is a terrible teacher of morality anyway. Have you ever read the Bible? Rape, incest, murder, slavery and more are all supported and urged by the imagined god in that book and performed by the “chosen” people in his name.
As Christopher Hitchins pointed out; think of a moral act which only a religious person could do that an atheist could not. You won’t be able to.
And then think of an IMMORAL act which only a religious person could do that an atheist could not. You have probably already thought of one.
[quote=”clayton”] ….And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.”[/quote]
Is this an insight, or am I lacking reason? Does what Clayton say have its obvious conclusion? If there was NO religion, all those after-life adherents would (if there was no crutch) shoot the immorality barometer through the roof? Is that application of reason? God keeps THOSE people in check? Oh, I missed the point. Atheists have no morality. I just made up this joke. Guy walks into a bar, shouting “Repent, the end of the world is nigh!”
Good, says the guy at the bar drinking milk. ‘Tender, I’m off the wagon, give me a double.”[quote=”clayton”]I hear ya. And I acknowledge that most wars have been faught along religious fault lines. But I would put forth that a moral conscience is only derived from moral teachings.And as George Washington said, “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable results…..And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.”[/quote]
Why does developing a moral conscience require religion? If anything religion teaches intolerance, look what’s happening in Uganda and what happened in the Catholic church. The religious leaders were engaging in corrupt, immoral behaviour. Sorry, I just don’t buy the fact that religion is required to develop a moral conscience. How about using empathy as your moral barometer?
Being an american, I was not going to respond to this post. However, I felt I had to convey some balance to this post. I have engaged muslims in combat several times, and respect them as enemy combatants. That having been said, in one case, a muslim saved my life and the lives of my team; by informing me of enemy sniper locations. I have adapted the principle of judging individuals by the content of their character, rather than their religion.
Why would being an american keep you from responding to this post about Canada and Muslims? Both subjects are literally close to the american experience right now.
I DO judge people by their religion and their beliefs because beliefs lead to action. Some beliefs lead people to pick up guns, put on uniforms or arm bands and try to kill each other.
And in the case of uniforms, you can usually judge the book by its cover.[quote=”sprite”]Why would being an american keep you from responding to this post about Canada and Muslims? Both subjects are literally close to the american experience right now.
I DO judge people by their religion and their beliefs because beliefs lead to action. Some beliefs lead people to pick up guns, put on uniforms or arm bands and try to kill each other.
And in the case of uniforms, you can usually judge the book by its cover.[/quote]sprite, you finnally said something i agree with. Cheers.
Why is it that so many of us Canadians live in absolute denial? I did not see one false statement in Mr.Oldman’s comments. I was born in Toronto in the 40s, I’m also an eye witness to how the quality of life in Canada has deteriortated since 1965, when the immigration flood gates were opened up to the third world. Most Muslims are good people, such as my co-worker and fishing buddy is. Unfortunately! A good percentage of them are working as fast as they can to take over Canada. That is not my opinion, it’s a fact of life, everyone here knows that, especially the present politicians. We all have our reasons for leaving the US, Canada, Europe, etc., and Mr.Oldham is entitled to have his reasons too “isn’t he”?
I’m leaving Canada for much the same reasons. I have a weak stomach, and just can’t stand watching a good thing die “The country of Canada”. I bet all of you think Mr.Oldham is a white person “don’t you”?
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