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Scott:
I said that as far as I am concerned this thread was closed once the rabid anti-semetic hatred started. The thread started with someone asking how many Jews are in Costa Rica and then a few friendly people added their own comments. But now the party is over as far as I am concerned. We were all using good manners and common sense. But now that has changed. Of course I could answer his accusations. But I will not. Jews are no more perfect than any other race. But I believe they have a right to exist on that tiny piece of land that the Bible says God gave to them. On that little piece of land they say – No, we will not walk wordlessly into the gas chambers again. If you want us this time come and get us. But this time we are prepared with nuclear weapons. We will not use them unless our backs are against the wall. But just be warned. Never again!
Jews have lived in the Promised Land for more than 3000 years. Palestinians are not of any particular ethnic background. They came from many countries to try to occupy Israel at a time when most Jews had been deported from their homeland. But there was always a remnant of Jews there so nobody can possibly say that the Jews “occupied” the land. Now tiny Israel is surrounded by enemy nations. 5 million Jews surrounded by 1.3 billion enemies. Who wouldn’t arm themselves with the best protection money can buy? And now the United States Government has supervised the division of the land and handed it over to the people whose aim is to wipe out every Jew from the face of the earth. Shame on America!
I could answer every one his hate-filled suedo facts but this is not the place to do it. This website is, as someone else said, “We loveCosta Rica.” Let’s keep it to that. But Scott we can certainly talk privately if you want to know more.
There is one thing that the Israelis have against Moses. He took them 40 years through the desert in order to bring them to the one spot in the Middle East that has no oil. ( I stole that from Golda Meir, whom Bradbard may have contempt for.) But, it is interesting how every country surrounding them wants them gone. I believe it is out of envy.
The Jews are the chosen people. Some just don’t like that fact… and it is a fact.
God blesses those who bless Israel. That is not my opinion but biblical, so don’t get mad at me for saying it, and I am not a Jew. But I do love the King of the Jews.
The Bible also regulates and approves of slavery (Leviticus) which includes such niceties as; setting certain slaves free after 10 years but keeping there wives and children if it pleases you. This is in the Bible(along with many other fun “facts” google leviticus and slavery)…and that is “fact”. The Bible is no better or worse than any other doctrine, if we are to evolve as a species we need to grow beyond doctrines that “choose people” and serve to divide us. So if we disavow slavery and say stoning one to death, then what we are saying is that the Bible may not be perfect…Regarding Israel I think Brad is just being himself as his criticisms of the US have been equally harsh. I don’t see this as anti-semitism as he does not appear to hate Jews for being Jews but has a strong dislike of the Israeli governments policy. He would not be alone on that, one could site many such criticisms from Noam Chompsky or Howard Zinn both “Jewish” scholars as well as many others. To simply dismiss anyone that critiques Israel as anti-semites is unfair.
OH my god people………….
Two things……..Not all Jews are Iraelis, and not all Israelis are Jews.
Just like not all white people were running apartheid in South Africa, not all black people are ruling Zimbabwe, and not all Latino people are ruling Cuba.
I take offense, as a Jew (by heritage, not so much by religion) that many people in this thread are “telling” the rest of us what Jews are, what we are doing, and what is right or wrong with us.
Both sides are ridiculous, and I again take offense that either side feels like they are serving ANY kind of dialog that will bring about ANYTHING positive. If you are not trying to influence a positive result, as in having people agree with you and cause change towards what you feel is right, then why put all this energy, albeit hateful, into this?
Not only is this site not the place for this, but I will go so far to say that this world is not the place for such small mindedness.
Yes, the Israeli situation is a horrendous one, and there seems to be no side that has all, if any, of the answers that will end the nightmare that has surrounded the region, but again, if either side that we see in this thread really, and I mean REALLY cares enough about the subject, they wouldn’t just be slinging negative words around in discussion forums, they would be out there figuring out how to effect a positive change, and if a positive change is not what you are after, then I don’t see what use I, or anyone else, has for you at this time.I have missed you guys. Been traveling too long but here are some more hot of the press “cool facts about Israel.”
“The report of the fact-finding mission of the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) on the Israeli attack on the Gaza flotilla released last week shows conclusively, for the first time, that US citizen Furkan Dogan and five Turkish citizens were murdered execution-style by Israeli commandos.”
“Although the report’s revelations and conclusions about the killing of Dogan and the five other victims were widely reported in the Turkish media last week, not a single story on the report has appeared in US news media.”
“The administration has made it clear through its inaction and its explicit public posture that it has no intention of pressing the issue of the murder of a US citizen in cold blood by Israeli commandos.”
You can read the article about the United States of Israhell disgusting lack of action at http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/09/29/gareth-porter-un-fact-finding-mission-says-israelis-executed-us-citizen-furkan-dogan/
I do not have any YouTube videos for you though.
I am no sympathizer with Israel. The Israeli government has been behaving and is behaving just as badly as many other governments.
And religious Jews are no better than any of the other silly and destructive religious faiths…and they are ALL silly and destructive. But I have no stake in that conflict over there. As far as I am concerned, both sides can bury each other with their stupidity.
But we are talking about Costa Rica here.
I guess I miss read the essence of this thread which is titled “Jews In Costa Rica”. I immediately thought of my Israeli friends in Costa Rica. They may or may not be Jews in the religious sense of the word. But they have formed a close knit group of like minded people who have found a way, so far as I know, to live peacefully in Costa Rica. And I enjoy their company.[quote=”john”]What % sort of the population in Costa Rica are Jewish? Does anyone know? Are there Jewish schools and temples?
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Hello, The Reform Temple in Escazu is Congregation B’nei Israel (a liberal, progressive)
Tel 506 2231-5243 Fax 506-2231-5787 or 257-3308 Email congbnei@racsa.co.cr
From Pops La Sabana, 800 West, Old Rd to Escazu ,Left hand side,corner building. http://www.bnei-israel.orgAlso, go on http://www.mavensearch.com for synagogues in Costa Rica.
Kosher Deli in Pavas, San Jose ,Costa Rica.www.costaricakoshercenter.com
506 2232-2991 for English speaking contact
miriamgingi@yahoo.comA great web site listing many. is http://www.kosherdelight.com
Click on main website. Then on home page select Costa Rica as chosen country. A wealth of information of the question you asked will be there for you.L’Shanah Tovah
Mark & Cheri Rubin
I can’t,yet I guess I should,believe that this thread is so,man,can’t even find the word.
to think that it’s everywhere,and so on edge,let me tell you,I’m responsible for my interactions and acquaintances and the way they play out.
when I was in Hermossa I made friends,and helped a friend do some work around his nightclub.then met his partner.he was a bit interogative at first.it was his military training.they were israeli as were many of their friends who came to be my friends.
it took him A hot minute to realize,just like the canadians I knew,the locals,that dang italian ice cream shop clique and so on.
what impresses me is that they,none of them judged me for the big loco gringo I am.they took me on my word,my behaviors and actions.
reading some of what is posted and then the responses,that saddens me.why is it so important?
one day your gonna be broke down,and me or some jew or canadian or poor as$ locals gonna stop to help.are you going to refuse me/us then?
I know a little about racism.my first baby sitter was a black man in 1961.in an all white rural dade county neighborhood before it was part of greater miami.
then my mom married my panamanian stepfather who looks black when you look through racist eyes.
we endured the hate,as white people,by white people.
then when the cuban community showed up,they hated us because how could this latino marry a gringa,with 2 bastard sons.
God,how can we still be of the dark,in the dark?Cheer up,wspeed. The loudest ones are not the majority on this issue. And people tend to behave differently in person. Racist remarks are usually shouted from a distance.
[quote=”sprite”]Cheer up,wspeed. The loudest ones are not the majority on this issue. And people tend to behave differently in person. Racist remarks are usually shouted from a distance.[/quote]thanks,I just find it so repressive,counterproductive and yet A flavor so many enjoy.
when I’m in A jam,and I pray,I’m not worried which God is listening,and I’m not gonna turn down the mercy of any of them.
and when folks pray for others,I hope I’m the other,regardless of their religion.I need all the help I can get right now.[quote=”bradbard”]Poor persecuted and defenseless Jews in Israel, is that what you are saying davidrushton?
The same Israel that has more weapons per capita than any other country? http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mil_wea_hol_percap-military-weapon-holdings-per-capita That is one of the largest arms exporters in the world and
Are we talking about the same Jewish people who have over 200 nuclear weapons in the Middle East? The same Jewish people who are calling for Iran not to enrich uranium which Iran is legally allowed to do based on the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty? Only four nations are not signatories of the NPT: India, Israel, Pakistan and North Korea. Talk about an axis of evil.
The same Jewish people who have made many of the important decisions within the US administration to send our US armed forces who are now dying in Iraq to protect Israel?
The same Jewish people who are now calling for the destruction of Iran.
The same little Israel that is the only country on earth to have legalized murder and also considers torture legal and jails activists without trial
The same Jewish people who crushed to death 23-year-old Rachel Corrie, an American nonviolent human rights protester and have assassinated other non-violent protesters
The same Jewish people who have deported 4,000,000 people
The same Jewish people who have been condemned by the UN over 500 times
The same Jewish people who have who have killed more than 50,000 innocent civilians and injured hundreds of thousands more. Who refuse to allow pregnant women to cross their checkpoints and watch them die trying to give birth?
Imprisoned 250,000 + imprisons children for political reasons
The same Jewish people who were given more than $6.8 million per day in 2007 by the US taxpayer while US has a surplus and the USA is the largest debtor nation on earth? Israel is the largest recipient of US. aid in the entire world. It receives more aid than that given to all the countries of sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean, put together.
The same Jewish people who have demolished 60,000 Palestinian homes
The same Jewish people that is the only country on earth to build illegal settlements on occupied lands
The same Jewish people that allows a political party that publicly advocates ethnic cleansing of the native citizens
The same Jewish people that has towns and cities allocated exclusively for one ethnic group
The same Jewish people who are now planning to construct around 2000 new houses in another ILLEGAL settlement in the West Bank? http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=50032§ionid=351020202
The same Jewish people who threatened a “holocaust” in Gaza the crowded home to 1.4 million Palestinians? http://www.medialens.org/alerts/08/080303_israels_illegal_assault.php
The same Jewish people who whined and cried about a kidnapped soldier while the Israeli army had abducted around 60,000 residents; around ten thousand and five hundred of them are still imprisoned in Israeli jails, in addition to 543 who are detained before the outbreak of the current Intifada.
The same Jewish people who have ignored the World court who ordered Israel to tear down illegal wall http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jul/10/israel3
The same Jewish people that have killed 982 Palestinian children since September 29, 2000 while the Palestinians have killed 119 Israeli children have been.
Take a look at ‘Israel – The World’s Biggest Terrorist State’ http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0svwMdY&feature=related
And you MUST see http://www.ifamericansknew.com/
Why have the Jews been persecuted?
Go on! Call me anti-semite!
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Excellent factoid. Post it in Wikipedia.
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Excellent factoid. Post it in Wikipedia.[/quote]well heck,thats A great reason to practice hate.for those that are haters.
[quote=”F.A Skippy”][quote=”bradbard”]Poor persecuted and defenseless Jews in Israel, is that what you are saying davidrushton?
The same Israel that has more weapons per capita than any other country? http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mil_wea_hol_percap-military-weapon-holdings-per-capita That is one of the largest arms exporters in the world and
Are we talking about the same Jewish people who have over 200 nuclear weapons in the Middle East? The same Jewish people who are calling for Iran not to enrich uranium which Iran is legally allowed to do based on the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty? Only four nations are not signatories of the NPT: India, Israel, Pakistan and North Korea. Talk about an axis of evil.
The same Jewish people who have made many of the important decisions within the US administration to send our US armed forces who are now dying in Iraq to protect Israel?
The same Jewish people who are now calling for the destruction of Iran.
The same little Israel that is the only country on earth to have legalized murder and also considers torture legal and jails activists without trial
The same Jewish people who crushed to death 23-year-old Rachel Corrie, an American nonviolent human rights protester and have assassinated other non-violent protesters
The same Jewish people who have deported 4,000,000 people
The same Jewish people who have been condemned by the UN over 500 times
The same Jewish people who have who have killed more than 50,000 innocent civilians and injured hundreds of thousands more. Who refuse to allow pregnant women to cross their checkpoints and watch them die trying to give birth?
Imprisoned 250,000 + imprisons children for political reasons
The same Jewish people who were given more than $6.8 million per day in 2007 by the US taxpayer while US has a surplus and the USA is the largest debtor nation on earth? Israel is the largest recipient of US. aid in the entire world. It receives more aid than that given to all the countries of sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean, put together.
The same Jewish people who have demolished 60,000 Palestinian homes
The same Jewish people that is the only country on earth to build illegal settlements on occupied lands
The same Jewish people that allows a political party that publicly advocates ethnic cleansing of the native citizens
The same Jewish people that has towns and cities allocated exclusively for one ethnic group
The same Jewish people who are now planning to construct around 2000 new houses in another ILLEGAL settlement in the West Bank? http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=50032§ionid=351020202
The same Jewish people who threatened a “holocaust” in Gaza the crowded home to 1.4 million Palestinians? http://www.medialens.org/alerts/08/080303_israels_illegal_assault.php
The same Jewish people who whined and cried about a kidnapped soldier while the Israeli army had abducted around 60,000 residents; around ten thousand and five hundred of them are still imprisoned in Israeli jails, in addition to 543 who are detained before the outbreak of the current Intifada.
The same Jewish people who have ignored the World court who ordered Israel to tear down illegal wall http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jul/10/israel3
The same Jewish people that have killed 982 Palestinian children since September 29, 2000 while the Palestinians have killed 119 Israeli children have been.
Take a look at ‘Israel – The World’s Biggest Terrorist State’ http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBB0svwMdY&feature=related
And you MUST see http://www.ifamericansknew.com/
Why have the Jews been persecuted?
Go on! Call me anti-semite!
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Excellent factoid. Post it in Wikipedia.[/quote]I’d say I have to agree.Everyone knows this to be truth but noone has the intestinal fortitude to convey it. We’ve been brainwashed as a society to buy the lie of God’s chosen people.God’s chosen people wouldn’t promote death,fraud,censorship,pornography,deceit in ALL media,whilst’ playing the greatest victim
‘s in the history of the world now would they?
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