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So far as I can tell, I am playing nice. I haven’t told anyone to shut up or to go away nor would I. I am just responding to a posting wherein an individual is looking to start up some sort of religious group in my stomping grounds, San Ramon. I have a stake in this and I feel compelled to weigh in. I would do the same if someone had the idea to start an anti-Israeli organization near me. I have a healthy mistrust extremists.
sprite, if you cannot find it in yourself to respect the beliefs of others then you have no right to expect them to respect yours. That door swings equally in both directions.
No one is asking you to adopt, adhere to, accept, share or otherwise participate in anyone else’s beliefs but simply to make room for them. While you may not hold their beliefs dear, they do. And that is justification enough. Their beliefs, like their feelings, are theirs and on that basis alone warrant a modicum of tolerance and respect.
Tolerance and respect are earned, they are not blindly given except by foolish, gullible people.
I do not expect anyone to respect my beliefs unless I can defend them successfully. I do not respect anyone else’s beliefs unless they can do the same. But lack of respect for beliefs is not the same thing as lacking respect for basic human dignity so please do not confuse the matter. Ideas need to be challenged so that we can weed out the stupid ones from the ones that work for us.
The problem with tolerance of beliefs is that people inevitably act upon their beliefs, stupid or otherwise. Not challenging dangerous, superstitious or just plain silly beliefs with discussion is paramount to condoning any harmful action which may result from those beliefs. And there is ample historic evidence for the harm that has come from letting superstitious religious beliefs go unchallenged.
People who hold silly notions which are held out to the public as truth need to be challenged. Their silly or dangerous, unsubstantiated beliefs need to be ridiculed under the light of reason.
If anybody comes on this message board and claims that he is in communication with Elvis when he rides the bus from San Ramon to Alajuela, he would be ridiculed. If you are instructing me to be respectful of such beliefs, I respectfully decline.
[quote=”sprite”]So far as I can tell, I am playing nice. I haven’t told anyone to shut up or to go away nor would I. I am just responding to a posting wherein an individual is looking to start up some sort of religious group in my stomping grounds, San Ramon. I have a stake in this and I feel compelled to weigh in. I would do the same if someone had the idea to start an anti-Israeli organization near me. I have a healthy mistrust extremists.[/quote]
A religious group in your stomping grounds. You make me laugh. I bet that philosophy goes over well in your neighborhood. Or maybe you dont have the balls to let your Catholic neighbors know of it.
I’m signing out of this thread and the sycobable contained in it.
Good luck to the original poster getting the info he is looking for.
I don’t like what preist feel they have the liberty to do to little boys,or that the preacher has A girlfriend and A wife,or the Rabbi was falling down drunk at a Bah-Mitzvah.
as to this persons religous right/choice,I googled it,read some of the sites,gleaned some info and realized that people seek yet another spiritual parh.
I agree on both points,about not having something to say,and then again not being silenced.
in this situation,it is one of the either ors,religion,and politics.
they are people seeking peace.and that right has been squandered and with A Fidel effort.As the originator of this thread, what can I say but WOW…. I just love it when people tell me what I believe when they know absolutely nothing about me. The judging of people and their beliefs by “goggling” is absurd. I am simply a G-d seeker and believer of Yeshua Ha’Mashiach. I have no intent of returning to CR this winter and starting a “cult”? I sense a wee bit of paranoia… A little tolerance please. Again,
I apologize for starting this frenzy. My heart is seek to explore, mend, and yes hopefully tear down the fences of religious stereotypes and seek the true face of G-d.Never apologize for presenting your beliefs or questions. Reasonable people can discuss anything without getting crazy or doing anything harmful. I am trying to keep the craziness away from me because a reasonable person can be justifiably paranoid about any religion in near physical proximity. The catholic church permeates Costa Rican culture and most places on the planet have been infected deeply with one religion or another. The cure for this malady is surely not more religion and that is the gist of my commentary. There are so many better reasons to come to Costa Rica than to organize a religious group.
[b][/b][quote=”Scott”]Let’s play nicely please!
Would it be perhaps be sensible to ask in some of the local synagogues if they had any more information about this?
Or would a traditional Rabbi consider this blasphemous? I don’t know…
Scott[/quote]
According to the Jewish Federation, The Messianic Jews are not accepted as practicing Jews into the religion/synagogues.
For they believe in Jesus and that is not incorporated in Judaism .
This is a big movement, for Christians who want the best of both worlds.
For those that want facts, just Google up the movement.Shalom.
[quote=”cherimark”][b][/b][quote=”Scott”]Let’s play nicely please!
Would it be perhaps be sensible to ask in some of the local synagogues if they had any more information about this?
Or would a traditional Rabbi consider this blasphemous? I don’t know…
Scott[/quote]
According to the Jewish Federation, The Messianic Jews are not accepted as practicing Jews into the religion/synagogues.
For they believe in Jesus and that is not incorporated in Judaism .
This is a big movement, for Christians who want the best of both worlds.
For those that want facts, just Google up the movement.Shalom.[/quote]and wanting the best of both worlds.
on A costa rican web site,in a country that has people wondering how they can move,live,keep some american comforts,in A much nicer setting.
isn’t that an effort towards the best of both worlds?
some business folks with business that can be run in the US,or Ca.n or europe, from costa rican soil,doesn’t that have the same tone?
my,seem so to me.
I did google it,and I did talk to someone who is informative.
they told me that no one has the cornerstone on peace,regardless of faith or belief.
and that sooner or later,each ones day of reckoning comes.
I am not to judge,that is what my higher power does.and it’ll be only me he judges.With the upmost respect, I can tell you that I have been told by more than one Rabbi, Pastor and other “religious folks” that I “can’t have it both ways”, ie best of both worlds. I beg to differ and will keep searching, that is searching his word, Torah and again with respect not a google site.
[quote=”wspeed1195″][quote=”cherimark”][b][/b][quote=”Scott”]Let’s play nicely please!Would it be perhaps be sensible to ask in some of the local synagogues if they had any more information about this?
Or would a traditional Rabbi consider this blasphemous? I don’t know…
Scott[/quote]
According to the Jewish Federation, The Messianic Jews are not accepted as practicing Jews into the religion/synagogues.
For they believe in Jesus and that is not incorporated in Judaism .
This is a big movement, for Christians who want the best of both worlds.
For those that want facts, just Google up the movement.Shalom.[/quote]and wanting the best of both worlds.
on A costa rican web site,in a country that has people wondering how they can move,live,keep some american comforts,in A much nicer setting.
isn’t that an effort towards the best of both worlds?
some business folks with business that can be run in the US,or Ca.n or europe, from costa rican soil,doesn’t that have the same tone?
my,seem so to me.
I did google it,and I did talk to someone who is informative.
they told me that no one has the cornerstone on peace,regardless of faith or belief.
and that sooner or later,each ones day of reckoning comes.
I am not to judge,that is what my higher power does.and it’ll be only me he judges.[/quote]
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