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make sure you jump through all the hoops to become a legal resident of costa rica. many people who complain about the mexicans move here and live as perpetual tourists without ever getting proper legal residency all the while bitching about the immigration problems in the US.
[quote=”maravilla”]make sure you jump through all the hoops to become a legal resident of costa rica. many people who complain about the mexicans move here and live as perpetual tourists without ever getting proper legal residency all the while bitching about the immigration problems in the US.[/quote]exactly.I’m here now, working out the ins and outs.
it means alot to me to do things as properly as possible.
and like TXjackie said,Markus,my GP too were from foriegn countries,they did the immigration thing,my mom too as a little girl.
mt stepfather is panamanian,he came here in 57,in 61 he was A citizen.
I do know firsthand how they felt.
it was a big deal for them to stand up and recite the pledge of allegiance with tears of pride in their eyes.
not A friggin bag full of savings like the maxicans,to take back and build some small biz in A tourist town or live good off their time here.
I’ve had mexicans work for me.the ones I employed were the one who took time off to go do document work, and get real liscenses, and whatever else they had to do to stay.
I have alot of friends from other countries who pride themselves on becoming citizens.
I’m from miami,I know the deal.
and some of the folks think they are taking lettuce picking jobs,GMAFB,they have most of the const. jobs here in S.Fl. and it’s cheating american scumbag contracxtors giving them the jobs,and scumbag gringos letting them do the work for the contractors.The reason for immigration should not matter as long as it is a moral one. That includes the search for income. The probl arises from huge discrepancies between economies and this is due chiefly to one nation exploiting another. It is capitalistic exploitation carried out on an international scale.
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Seems to me that the author of the article makes a lot of assumptions about a US invasion of Mexico – a country of 111 million people…
Scott[/quote]If you haven’t noticed the far fringes of American conservatism:
1 – makes a lot of assumptions
2 – puts their own interpretation on the words of others
3 – twists facts until they fit their personal fears
4 – assumes that the majority of others will believe
Seemingly all of this is in an effort to create a fear of the future.I think you will find that many of us who consider ourselves conservative see these types as something other than conservative.
Somehow they have avoided, or escaped from, the mental institutions in which they should properly be housed.[quote=”waggoner41″][quote=”Scott”]
Seems to me that the author of the article makes a lot of assumptions about a US invasion of Mexico – a country of 111 million people…
Scott[/quote]If you haven’t noticed the far fringes of American conservatism:
1 – makes a lot of assumptions
2 – puts their own interpretation on the words of others
3 – twists facts until they fit their personal fears
4 – assumes that the majority of others will believe
Seemingly all of this is in an effort to create a fear of the future.I think you will find that many of us who consider ourselves conservative see these types as something other than conservative.
Somehow they have avoided, or escaped from, the mental institutions in which they should properly be housed.[/quote]Conservative fringe ideology is only conservatism carried to its logical conclusions. Those extremist conservative views show everyone where the end of the conservative road would lead if there were not a weak liberal effort to stop them.
[quote=”txjackie”]There is a LEGAL to come in to the United States and a LEGAL to become a citizen of the US or any other country.[/quote]
You assume a level of education and knowledge in the illegal population that does not exist. The education of most Hispanics ends before more than six years have been completed.
Having lived among the illegals in my previous life in California the issues are quite a bit more complex than you apparently believe.
Economic desperation is the primary driving factor.
Many of the illegals were fed misinformation in their home countries by those who profit from their transport.
Many are unaware that the U.S. has a green card program for legal entry.
There are many more issues that enter into the problemAdditionally the U.S. has contributed to the issue through economic disadvantage.
I agree with you on the issue of legal vs illegal but we have to realize that we need solutions that are more than the knee jerk rection of many of our politicians
[quote=”waggoner41″][quote=”normita”]I am watching the increasingly gruesome gang problems in MExico and the US/Mexico border and saw this article this morning which really frightens the crap out of me.
Like it or Not: Mexico is America’s Next Afghanistan
How do you think this could affect Costa Rica?[/quote]
The issue here should have a positive effect on Costa Rica in reducing the transport of drugs through this area by disrupting the distribution in Mexico.
To set this up as a military operation is not the way to go. The U.S. should provide investigative and intelligence assistance through police operations and let the Mexican Federales deal with the actual arrests and physical combat against the cartels.
Scott’s article on military assistance in Costa Rica is spot on. The U.S. Coast Guard watches suspicious boats navigating Costa Rican waters but does nothing toward interdiction. This has to change drastically.[/quote]
I read about 2 years ago of an American in his sailboat just of the coast of CR on the Pacific side. The USA ship came upon him less than 1/8 mile from shore. They searched his boat and arrested him for having 1 ounce of pot in the nigh stand in his cabin. irrc
[quote=”Versatile”]I read about 2 years ago of an American in his sailboat just of the coast of CR on the Pacific side. The USA ship came upon him less than 1/8 mile from shore. They searched his boat and arrested him for having 1 ounce of pot in the nigh stand in his cabin. irrc[/quote]
U.S. war on drugs policy in action.
Tons of coke running up the coast and millions of dollars running down the coast and the U.S. has an ounce of pot to show for their interdiction effort? Hmmm.
I think I’d like to hear better results than that.
[quote=”Versatile”]I read about 2 years ago of an American in his sailboat just of the coast of CR on the Pacific side. The USA ship came upon him less than 1/8 mile from shore. They searched his boat and arrested him for having 1 ounce of pot in the nigh stand in his cabin. irrc[/quote]
Do you have a link for that story – puhleeeeze?
Speaking of Americans being caught with pot, read this interesting story:
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/24/nation/la-na-marijuana-juries-20101225
I had a similar experience when I went for jury duty on Monday. By the end of Voir Dire, about six of us was telling the defense attorney, the prosecutor and the judge at the end of our examinations we didn’t think we could apply the drug laws to the young man on trial. What was amazing that out of 25 people called, only one or two didn’t have some activity involvement with marijuana either family members, friends or on the job where they found people were using. I think the above link explains something that is rising up in the United States. What I think is funny, Missoula, MT, who would ever thought they would have made such a stand?
Later,
Tom[quote=”waggoner41″][quote=”Versatile”]I read about 2 years ago of an American in his sailboat just of the coast of CR on the Pacific side. The USA ship came upon him less than 1/8 mile from shore. They searched his boat and arrested him for having 1 ounce of pot in the nigh stand in his cabin. irrc[/quote]
U.S. war on drugs policy in action.
Tons of coke running up the coast and millions of dollars running down the coast and the U.S. has an ounce of pot to show for their interdiction effort? Hmmm.
I think I’d like to hear better results than that.[/quote]youtube “us coast guard makes 48 mil $ bust.
it was the second this month,with the CG working off the coast of panama.The situation in Mexico is very serious and is not going to go away. On the other hand, the total murders in the “safe” US a still about 1/4 the rate of Mexico. Shouldn’t we expect the difference to be MUCH greater? In the US the deaths in traffic accidents are 4 times greater than the murder rate. . . So, between auto accidents and murder you may meet an unexpected end in the US just as soon as or sooner than in Mexico. Dead is dead.
Illegal immigration into the US had dropped significantly NOT because of government efforts but due to the bad economy in the US. Fixing Mexico’s economy would be far cheaper than going to war. A better economy means higher tax revenue and generally this translates into better police and greater security.
The violence in Mexico is not so bad that people are leaving in droves to escape it. They leave due to the economics.
In recent recent years I’ve met many Mexicans and do business with them. They are friendly, honest, church going and hard working (they are much like the Ticos I’ve met). They are here due to the terrible economy in Mexico. While they enjoy the increased security here they left Mexico in order to support their families with dignity. The same thing everyone wants everywhere.
Instead of fear mongering we should be looking into solutions that work.
Interesting related article in yesterday’s New York Times
Drug Wars Push Deeper Into Central America
[ http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/24/world/americas/24drugs.html?_r=1&hp ]
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