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It will be a buyer’s market, that’s for sure, as there will be many many gringos who will have to bail out. We can only hope that this law doesn’t pass, or that they lower the requirements; in any case, I am trotting right down to immigration in May and applying for permanent residency. . . assuming I won’t have to meet the NEW requirements.
Come on Maravilla… the US was well on it’s way to becoming a socialist country before this! The final steps are in the works as we speak… or as Osama speaks… speading Joe the Plumber’s wealth around… which somehow morphs it’s way into “spreading the opportunity around” for the media…. a proposed socialized medical system which will cost TRILLIONS and be the end to all other plans except for the ultra rich. Next we’ll see a socialized retirement system beyond social security for all those that NEVER put a dime into the system… and more “social” programs that continue to reward bad choices, lazy attitudes, uncontrol breeding, and a lack of work ethic…. folks enjoying all the benefits of working hard for a living, saving, planning, sacrificing, making good choices, without the bother of work! Oh the joys of sleeping late and not having to go to work!!! LOL
Do you think for a moment that the “sudden” meltdown of the economy in the US has NOTHING to do with the direction this country is headed? There are some real smart folks out there that see the writing on the wall… BIG profits were made while the overall market lost TRILLIONS… and all those good worker bees (with 401K and other retirement plans) that were at or near retirement (and even those in retirement) lost TRILLIONS and are now LOCKED in nice and tight to support a system that they will never benefit from! The babyboomer problem has been solved… no worry about retirements overwhelming the system… now folks will have to work until they drop!!! Suddenly we’ll have MILLIONS of folks continuing to be taxed to cover SS and government programs cost! Isn’t that obvious with events over the past 6 months? You don’t have to believe in the boogie man to see this…. nor be a doomsdayer… it’s just plain simple fact!
The very idea of having worked hard for many years only to see the benefit of that work bestowed on all those that have NOT done so is enough to make one run off into the night screaming! Isn’t that what socialism is all about? And since we’re sharing this exchange on a site about Costa Rica I’d have to guess that most of the folks here see the same writing on the wall and have made plans to escape America. One has to wonder if the new proposals for migration to CR have a lot to do with the flight of folks from the US! I guess Arias is going to cherry pick those he wants in when the folks in the US see what has happened to the dream!
Come on Imxploring! Sounds like you have been listening to too much ” Right Wing Hate Radio”. I suggest you do a little more research and get your facts straight. I don’t envy anyone who gets that job. It will take a miracle to undo the mess we are in. That being said, I am starting on my house in C.R. this month and let the chips fall where they may.
Socialism that places such heavy TAXES (In the US they hit you from so many angles you really don’t know WHAT you pay in “taxes”) on the working people while PRETENDING to live a capitalist democracy isn’t so funny!
But then again…. we’ll see how this all works out… or doesn’t!
speedo5… I suggest you start building as fast as you can… and do a bit of research yourself… there’s some MAJOR pain coming to the folk in the US… not just the working people that can’t retire… but their children that have been sold into debt before they’re even able to make a living! There will be millions of people, many that knew they could never retire… and more that have now had the CHANCE at retirement taken away that will at some point see what has been stolen from them… and at some point the system just breaks! I agree that the next president is in for a VERY rough ride… and so are the people in the US… there’s some MAJOR changes coming… and THAT I hope we can agree!
Would anybody hazard a guess as to what could be the fastest time that this could be made into law? It seems that the recently floated idea of taxing homes worth over $120,000 has already passed second reading in the Assembly so it might be law seemingly quite shortly. This certainly appears to be quite rapid. Would the same time frame apply to this massive increase in monthly requirements for residency?
Also, if one was to secure residency before these increases became law, how long would one have before the new monetary requirements kick in? One, two, maybe three years? What are the rules now?
Spreading Joe the Plumber’s wealth????????????? OMG Did you REALLY say that? He doesn’t have any wealth, for God’s sake! He’s not EVEN a licensed plumber. And isn’t his 15 minutes up yet? Stop listening to Hannity and his bozo sidekick and all the other right wing fanatics who are screaming the “S” word (such as #1 Bozo Sarah Palin!). Socialism – HAHAHAHAHA You have made my day with these funny little comments. I’m so speechless I can’t even respond, but boy have YOU been propagandized!
Come now…. you’ve seen the clip…. (here’s the clip in case you missed it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqI5PSRcXM ) your boy said those very words… even if Joe doesn’t have the money! Perhaps Joe doesn’t… but there are LOTS of people that do that will be VERY surprised when their wealth gets spread around! LOL
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so what if he said that? Your take that giving someone health care will make them a lazy slug is about the most moronic sentiment I have ever heard. Have you ever been to Sweden, or Denmark, or Italy, any TRULY socialist country? They don’t have a lot of slackers; they have very productive people who don’t have to worry that they will lose everything they have if they get sick! The US is the ONLY country in the world where people file bankruptcy, or lose their home, because of medical bills. Your right wingers truly amaze me. And the sad part is that way too many of you want to live in Costa Rica!!
I think you’ve made my point for me!
“Your take that giving someone health care will make them a lazy slug is about the most moronic sentiment I have ever heard.”
My point is NOT that giving folks these benefits MAKES them lazy slugs (not sure I said that… but I’ll play along!)… it was that when a system continues to reward folks that make no effort to try to get ahead, make bad choice after bad choice, and instead feel thay are OWED a life… it only encourages more people make the same “lifestyle” choice and thus an ever increasing drain on society! At some point the system fails!
Here is what I DID say… perhaps you’d like to re-read it and comment on my properly quoted statement?
>>>Next we’ll see a socialized retirement system beyond social security for all those that NEVER put a dime into the system… and more “social” programs that continue to reward bad choices, lazy attitudes, uncontrol breeding, and a lack of work ethic…. folks enjoying all the benefits of working hard for a living, saving, planning, sacrificing, making good choices, without the bother of work! Oh the joys of sleeping late and not having to go to work!!!<<<
“Have you ever been to Sweden, or Denmark, or Italy, any TRULY socialist country? They don’t have a lot of slackers; they have very productive people who don’t have to worry that they will lose everything they have if they get sick!”
Well yes… and once again you’ve made my point… these coutries DON’T have a lot of slackers and folks that feel the “government” should be the answer to all their problems… UNLIKE the US where we have a LOT of slackers that want everything that you and I have worked hard for without the bother of going to work for it. And while we’re at it… folks in these counties, besides being rather productive people… are also better educated… and have a sense of pride in themselves… once again…. qualities that you don’t see with the current crop of people in the US….
“You right wingers truly amaze me. And the sad part is that way too many of you want to live in Costa Rica!!”
Well… let me see… by right winger… if you mean someone that has worked hard to get ahead, plays by the rules, respects hardwork… education… self reliance… and people that have pride in themselves and are willing to sacrifice to get ahead… I guess I’m guilty as charged… and it’s for THAT very reason that Costa Rica attracts “right wingers” like me…. the liberal left has sent the US on a path that will most likely be it’s undoing…. but then again… perhaps I’m just being moronic! LOL
Feel free to twist my words and misquote me…. it only tends to prove my point! 🙂
I still don’t understand how someone that claims the “liberal left” is turning the US into a socialist hell, likes Costa Rica so much? Costa Rica is a socialist democracy and has a banking, government and business environment that is as inefficient as anyone could imagine. I lived in France for years and I am sure you would agree that it is a socialist nation…that’s what made it so appealing! The business environment may have been appalling but the quality of life afforded to the volk was what made it so appealing to live in. Long lunch breaks(with real food!), long vacations, great food and drink, life came first then business-is this what you call socialism? What you must like about Costa Rica is the cheap beer, cost of living and ticas and hanging out with other like minded expats. Because if socialism turns you off so much how the hell could you like Costa Rica so much? The US certainly also has the natural beauty and diverse climates etc…
Your view of what this nation is going to become is so misguided and misinformed as to not even warrant a response from me. Guess what, bucko, already you will get a certain amount of SS regardless of whether your worked or not, it’s some minimum amount, but the last time I checked one was still entitled to that. Your comments are not only ignorant, but insulting, and thank GOD we’ve voted people with your mentality OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE — the era of rampant rape and pillage capitalism is OVER for this country. And I for one am happy to see it go. Who got rewarded for stealing billions of dollars from the common people? Why aren’t the crooks going to prison? Oh I get it, the more you steal, the MORE you are rewarded with bonuses and parties and trips. And to echo what Lotus said, WHY would you want to live in Costa Rica? Gee, they give healthcare to all their citizens, and if you could prove that you were going to live more than 490 months, you too could be entitled to a pension from the CR gov’t based on what you paid into the caja. There is nothing human about the system under which we live. Socialism on the other hand is about providing for its citizens. Can you please tell me what is the reason for government if NOT to do that? So HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA — We have a new president; one that is articulate and not a complete illiterate stumbling over the words he invented because he doesn’t know the real word; we have someone who will give this country (and the world) HOPE! And hopefully protect us from the capitalistic greed that spawned a complete global meltdown. I guess in your world that was a good thing because look at all the money the crooks made, that they stole from people who worked hard all their lives only to wind up with nothing. It’s shameful, but then our administration has/had no shame.
There’s a BIG cultural difference between the US and Costa Rica… in the US there’s an attitude of entitlement that people have developed from years of government spending that rewards poor choices. The education system is broken… and thus… the future doesn’t look much brighter. The US has some major cultural problems that will only get worse when continue to hand out everything. THAT’S the problem… and THAT’S what needs to change! The national debt should tell you something about the problem in the US… we cannot continue to fund this path and keep pushing off the debt to future generations. The US is no better than someone living WELL beyond their means and using credit cards to do so. At some point the credit dries up and you’re forced to face the music. What people don’t see is that the US is at that point… and the idea of MORE spending is nothing more than a final shoe shopping trip before the credit card company cuts you off. Sure it feels good… but you’re headed for a big wake up!
Folks in CR seem to place importance where it belongs… with family and friends. They work hard but have a relaxed attitude about life which I like. And if the world fell apart tommorrow… CR would go on pretty much as it does now… in the US folks would be standing around waiting for SOMEONE else to fix their problems. Sure CR has it’s problems… but when you look at the direction and attitude in the US… it’s not something that looks as if it’s going to end well.
BTW… Cheap beer is always nice, but not a good reason for living here…. the cost of living is nice…. and another example of why CR is doing something right…. as for the Ticas… the wife might have a problem with that! As for friends… we have many more Costa Rican friends then expats… but I still like you Lotus! 🙂
Maravilla….
I hate to see someone lower themselves to being so nasty and insulting as you have been with your words…. “misguided and misinformed”… “bucko”…”ignorant”…”insulting”…. perhaps you’d like to instead debate the issue without the extra verbage attempting to make your point? I’ve done so without having to get nasty as to your opinions. Or perhaps it’s the only way you can find to bolster your position?
You did use one work that was interesting when talking about social security… “entitled”…. and there in lies the problem…. the US has lots of folks that like that word… entitled to everything that hardworking folks have without the bother of working, sacrificing, and making good choices. THERE’S the problem. Perhaps we should give each person in the US, even if they’ve never worked, a nice home in CR next to yours…. and some spending money to enjoy Pura Vida?
When a system continues to reward poor behavior you get more of the same. When there is no downside to making bad choices… people continue to make them. And currently that is the case in the US…. but perhaps you don’t agree with that statement.
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