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Rewards for bad behavior: Can we say. . . Enron, Lehman Brother, AIG, etc. Yes, those are perfect examples of entitlement! I wonder where someone like you has lived all your life. You surely haven’t ever lived in one of those horrid socialistic countries, have you? So where do you get your propaganda about how bad socialism really is? You are the type of person who scares the hell out of me. I’ve lived in a socialist country; there is a feeling of safety and honoring life and happiness and well being, something I’ve never ever experienced in this country. Oh, yeah, that country was France! You might want to try it sometime. Ask the peopel of Denmark how they’re doing, especially since they were rated the happiest people in the world thanks to the way their government is run. And yes, you are misguided and misinformed. Your rants about socialism rank right up there with some tract someone gave me the other day about how Obama is the Manchurian Candidate and how socialism will be the downfall of our nation. hmmmmm, seems like capitalism was the downfall. Enjoy your life in socialist Costa Rica! I find it pretty hypocritical that you would choose to live there given your views of such a system.
There’s QUITE a big difference between the socialism in CR (and elsewhere) and the system we see failing in the US… corporate misdeeds and a systemic cultural problem are two differant animals. Perhaps you’d like to defend Hugo and his socialist program? The socialism we see forming in the US is doomed with the current mindset. Entitlement is not the means by which you improve society or encourage people to do better. It’s not the means by which people strive to get ahead… but perhaps the failing education system in the US is wrong…. or welfare roles that never seem to go away are in error … or a social security system being bleed dry… or a national debt out of control… perhaps I’m mistaken there too and these are all signs of a positive direction?
Seems you’ve been many places and can’t quite find a place that pleases you… so why the problem with all these wonderful places you speak so highly of?
And your reason for fleeing America is????
my reason for fleeing the US? people like you and a government that was marching towards fascism and dictatorship, an illegal war with the right to torture sanctioned by our government. yes, i’ve lived in a lot of places, so what? i enjoy many cultures, speak many languages, have dual citizenship, have friends from diverse cultural backgrounds, all to my advantage in my opinion. you have a problem with that? apparently you do. again — rewards for bad behavior …..enron, merrill lynch, aig, lehman brothers et al. that’s what capitalism got you. these thugs should be in prison, but noooooooooo they are being rewarded.
This is the first time I have ever been to this site. All I can say is
GO IMXPLORING GO!
Truer words were never spoken. There are many of us “over taxed and over achievers” who whole heartedly agree with you.
Thanks for putting up with the likes of Maravilla, I frankly dont have the patience for that.Edited on Nov 05, 2008 09:39
Come now Maravilla…. “fascism and dictatorship” are you for real… I had something insulting to say about that kind of a statement… but I’m taking the high road! You do need to take a good look inward however. I mentioned Hugo… a “true” socialist a man of the people (or he would have you believe)…. don’t the terms “fascism and dictatorship” apply more to someone like him than ANYONE in the US government? Perhaps you see something the rest of us don’t? Perhaps you’d like to touch on that. Or perhaps on Oscar… someone I thought would be good for CR… yet he dumps Taiwan for China with all the human rights issues and the damage they’re doing to the environment. Then gets caught with a slush fun intended for other uses that he uses instead to grease folks he has in his pocket… or the latest… open pit mining… and REMEMBER…. this is a man of the people… a socialist… yet human rights and the environment seem to matter little to advance his agenda.
People like me? You mean a REALIST that has no problems with words and terms like hardwork, personal responsibility, self respect, ethics, sacrifice, and effort. One who thinks the more we ENTITLE people the more trouble we create? That rewarding bad choices and behavior just brings more of the same? Someone that believes government is NOT the answer to all the problems society has?
I have no problem with you living in so many different places… it’s kind of cool… but also a VERY good indicator of the type of person YOU are… never happy… knowing better…looking for the utopia that you have in your mind.
My love of Costa Rica is based on the people, lifestyle, and the country itself.
As for the financial mess in the US…. we’ll see how the chosen one addresses it… he’ll be in the big chair Jan. 20th…. let’s see how aggressively he goes after those folks involved…. my guess… he’s a paper lion that will do NOTHING!
Edited on Nov 06, 2008 09:35
Hey Whitcher… thanks for the kind words…
As you know…. there are lots of folks out there that have ALL the ANSWERS to the problems with society… and are more then willing to fix them… as long as they can use someone else’s money to do it! LOL
Those of us that work hard and do the right thing are VERY tired of seeing our fruits tossed into the hopper to feed those who have no desire to EVER help make it right!
Once again… thanks! Welcome you’ll find this site to be one of the best for straight open exchanges about CR… and Scott is a great source if you’re thinking about CR for investment or retirement! Pura Vida!
how presumptive of you to think you know why i lived in any of the places i did. what insight could someone like you have into my life as an international business person who lived in other places because i could and because i wanted to, not because i was looking for an utopia. there are lots of beautiful places in the world, and i plan to live in as many of them as i possibly can. next stop on my list is argentina and uruguay. and how many places have you lived? what a completely narrow-minded viewpoint you have to think i was looking for something. how about just having the experience of living there without expecting anything in return? nah, that wouldn’t even enter your mind, i don’t think. and you don’t think that violating the covenants of the geneva convention was a shot at fascism? whew. i’m opting out of this ridiculous conversation. i know where you stand and that’s a good thing to know.
I was just referring to your apparent dislike of socialism. And the fact that Costa Rica and it’s people are very entrenched in socialism.
ps. If you were referring to me I’m not fleeing the US I like living here. I go to Costa Rica to surf and like to travel in general. I was in France because my wife is French. The world is not black and white, socialism in France or Costa Rica for instance is different than what they have in Venezuela. What I find irritating about you Imxploring is it seems to me you only have two colors of paint in your box…black and white. You may not be aware of it but you come off as what you state to detest..a know it all.Sorry Maravilla…. but you tipped your hand with explaining that you fled the US because it was headed towards being a fascism and dictatorship… that REALLY told me ALL I needed to know about your views. Best wishes on your adventures….
Edited on Nov 05, 2008 12:56
Wow… someone that sees the world as black and white… how novel! Grey is what’s killing this world… and as for coming off as a know it all…. perhaps we’re twins of different mothers! LOL Just because my opinion isn’t that which you might share doesn’t mean it’s wrong. I agree that the socialism issue is relative… CR is much different than Hugo’s act. My POINT is that socialism will not work in the US because of the current culture of entitlement that we’ve spawned. Until the mind set is changed and folks get back on the right track… it’s the wrong path!
Have no fear about the health care issue however… the Bill and Hillary show couldn’t pull it off with a booming economy… so with the current mess… these no chance in hell!!! So I guess the whole debate is unneeded!
So Lotus… why do YOU think they want the big $$$ changes they’ve proposed to the immigration laws?
Edited on Nov 05, 2008 13:06
Why is it that too many of the threads started in the discussion forums slide into political slanging matches? Occasionally, I enjoy a political slugfest. I emphasize the word occasionally. I have a suggestion for everyone. How about starting a new thread beginning with the word “political” and then the topic of your choice. That way, when people want information on a topic specifically addressing Costa Rican issues, they don’t have to wade through a morass of tit for tat political posturing.
Hey, Imxploring, what about all those entitlement packages Sarah Palin was tossing around to help people with children such as her Trig — the one with Down’s Syndrome? Under your plan, those people should not be entitled to anything but rather should put their disabilities aside and get out there and contribute! How DARE they suck off the system just because they have a little disability! And I think Lotus is right — you only see black and white, or maybe it’s only white! (if you get my drift) I’m still amazed that you rail against socialism and then move to Costa Rica.
On Topic: How long until the new immigration law could go into effect? In case they do approve this law, would we have a bit of heads up before it goes into effect?
What has been the experience as to timeframe when new laws have been passed in the past?
(Although, I would think it’s more likely that they will have to come up with at least a modified version of the law, with say $3000/month requirement for rentistas.)
I’m just about to make the move over the next few months, so this could be a huge deal breaker for us! Even if we apply before the new law goes into effect, we would not be sure that we would be granted renewal… then how can we safely buy land and build a house? All plans go up in the air with such uncertainty. There’s already so much uncertainty with the dollar potentially going down next year, and inflation hitting from all those printed new money all over the world. I’m worried if we put that $120K into the bank in Costa Rica, it will loose value in there, and we will not be able to live off the $2000 a month cause inflation has eaten up the value. Maybe the new law takes the coming inflation into account cause they know it will happen?
Quote: “All plans go up in the air with such uncertainty”.
Yes, so the question is not “how long until….” but “can I make it yes or no under the new law”.
If the answer is “no” you know what to do……
About the dollar going down next year: no uncertainty about that !
imx me thinks you sound like every other old man that thought things were better at sometime in the past, but the time is now. You can find them as far back in history as one cares to go…There is a great progressive movement going on in the “world” based on mindfulness and being…it transcends what happens on wall street- from the New Earth web cast that reached tens of millions to the good people of the US electing Obama and stepping outside of there safety zone…this was a paradigm shift. I’m in the moment my friend and life is wonderful, I won’t be running away to anywhere trying to “escape” anything…from right here everything is possible, what a great time to be alive! My point is I’m not “right” about anything because everything just is.
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