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April 18, 2007 at 4:21 pm #182712RoarkMember
He was EVIL. On drugs or not. Move to Costa Rica as soon as you can. America will have one less person like you who blames everything but the problem. In this case the problem was an evil maniac who murdered 31 innocent people.
April 18, 2007 at 4:22 pm #182713AlfredMemberI did read somewhere in the CR press about a year ago, that the most prescribed drug in Costa Rica was antidepressants. I believe this was among women. Also Costa Rican men use more Viagra than any other Latin American country. Interesting.
April 18, 2007 at 4:48 pm #182714maravillaMemberThe problem IS the drugs.
April 18, 2007 at 4:50 pm #182715maravillaMemberNow that IS scary because Latinos, Asians, and African Americans are typical deficient in the necessary liver enzymes to metabolize these antidepressant drugs. I guess it’s just a matter of time before we have similar incidents in Costa Rica. As for the Viagra, that doesn’t surprise me one bit! I think Tico men also use more black hair dye than any other segment of the population! jejeje
April 18, 2007 at 8:40 pm #182716RoarkMemberSo you must think he didn’t know he was committing an evil act. Drugs hid this from his mind and that is why he brought chains to lock doors and he had serial numbers rubbed off the guns.
April 18, 2007 at 9:02 pm #182717AlfredMemberI agree, he was fully aware of the actions he was taking. The premeditation, along with the suicide, thereby not having to take the consequences for his actions, suggest a fully conscious evil deed.
Drugs may have numbed, but they did not conceal the sickness already in his head.April 18, 2007 at 9:04 pm #182718maravillaMemberPeople under the influence of mind-altering drugs are usually very methodical about how they commit these massacres — look at Eric and Dyland and what happened at Columbine. They planned it for weeks in advance. Both were on the same kind of drugs as Cho. When you are taking drugs that have violence as a side effect, you are only intent on committing the act, and doing whatever it takes to fulfill the deranged fantasies you are having in your mind. If any of these shooters — Columbine, Amish country, Bailey,CO, Atlanta, etc. had been on LSD (which acts similarly on the same part of the brain as SSRI drugs) everyone would be decrying the use of LSD as the culprit. But because the drugs the shooters were taking are legal, people have a hard time believing that a drug endorsed by the FDA (which is little more than a handmaiden to Big Pharma) could possibly produce those results. Well, they DO! And that’w why I lobbied for 8 years to get the FDA to list homicide and suicide as side effects on all the current antidepressants. In fact, the very act of bringing chains and rubbing off the serial numbers is a pretty good indication of how the drugs were working on his brain. In each of the 1000 cases I’ve investigated there is always a great overkill — a mother doesn’t stab her newborn child once, she stabs it 150 times. You get the picture.
April 18, 2007 at 9:06 pm #182719maravillaMemberSome of these drugs are the CAUSE of the sickness and the deranged thoughts and the senseless violence. I want to know which came first — his aberrant behavior or the psych drugs. I’m willing to bet it was the medication that came first and all else followed.
April 18, 2007 at 9:26 pm #182720namvetMemberI still have not heard or seen anything that says he was on any antidepressant medication. The article you point out says “news reports indicate he MAY have been on medication.” It’s quite possible that he was just an unmedicated mental timebomb. Yes, he was referred and admitted for psychiatric care but nothing has been said that indicates he was currently under treatment for anything. He doesn’t appear to be someone who stopped taking his meds and went bonkers. It will be interesting to see if he was or was not taking antidepressants.
April 18, 2007 at 9:48 pm #182721PegMemberI grew up from the time I was a small child owning and shooting rifles and shotguns. I was a member of a gun club, hunted small game and was on the range every weekend with my father target shooting. I believe in the “right to bear arms”, however there is no reason assault weapons should be sold to the general public, the only thing they are used for is to hunt human beings. I think the ban should be reinstituted nationwide. I also think that the video games, that are nothing more than training videos on how to kill, should be banned. They even teach how to keep your heart rate low when your killing. I heard the Army is using these games for training. Should our kids have access to these?
April 18, 2007 at 10:38 pm #182722AlfredMemberThe genie is already out of the bottle. The video games are out there and so are the firearms. Making them illegal now will make a whole new class of criminals out of previously law abiding citizens.
April 18, 2007 at 10:51 pm #182723DavidCMurrayParticipantSadly, the very drugs that Maravalla says (probably rightly) are at the root of the Virginia Tech shooter’s problems are the same ones that have revolutionized the treatment of mental illness. Until the advent of mood-altering drugs in the late 1940s and 1950s, literally the only treatment available to schizophrenics was to lock them away. The vision of madmen chained to the walls of mental institutions is not terribly distorted. The major tranquilizers changed all that as did the anti-convulsives that brought most epilepsy under control.
In Michigan and other states, the huge mental institutions could be phased out because these very drugs brought under control that behavior (including convulsive disorders) which could not be controlled otherwise. Also sadly, the states have failed to provide the community-based mental health care that former inpatients needed and were entitled to, and they have failed to care for those never instutionalized but who would have been in the old days.
I have personally witnessed the revolutionary positive effects that some of these drugs have had upon patients to whom they were properly prescribed and who were followed adequately. Does the improper use of these drugs lead, occasionally, to a bad outcome? Unquestionably, yes. But that doesn’t mean that they are not appropriate in many, many situations.
April 18, 2007 at 11:13 pm #182724maravillaMemberThere have been interviews with his roommates who said that every morning he ritualistically took his medication. Rarely does anyone get locked up in a psych ward without meds of some kind. He certainly appears medicated in the videos: flat affect, rage, glassy eyes. We’ll see. The pressure is on the media to release the name of the drug(s) he was taking.
April 19, 2007 at 9:02 pm #182725PegMemberJust because they are out there, doesn’t mean we can’t stop the proliferation of them. We can ban them and recall them. We can also do what C.R. did with thousands of firearms, melt them down, and make statues or art out of them.
Just because the horse is out of the barn, doesn’t mean you can’t catch it and put it back!
April 19, 2007 at 11:26 pm #182726maravillaMemberI agree with you, Peg. Why on earth can a person buy an AK-47 or a 50mm assault rifle? They are used for only one thing — to kill other people. UGH! What a violent country the US is.
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