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Obamacare, Medicare, coverage in CR or in the US….. OK, we know that Medicare doesn’t cover in CR but what is the reg for Obamacare.
If you are not covered by Medicare, do you have to get Obamacare?
I say ‘no’ but friends aren’t so certain. Anyone have the facts or know where to get them?
[quote=”VictoriaLST”]Obamacare, Medicare, coverage in CR or in the US….. OK, we know that Medicare doesn’t cover in CR but what is the reg for Obamacare.
If you are not covered by Medicare, do you have to get Obamacare?
I say ‘no’ but friends aren’t so certain. Anyone have the facts or know where to get them?[/quote]
There is nothing to worry about, the IRS is running Obamacare, I am positive they (IRS) know exactly how to run Obamacare with the least financial impact on you as possible.
[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”kwhite1″]
There is nothing to worry about, the IRS is running Obamacare, I am positive they (IRS) know exactly how to run Obamacare with the least financial impact on you as possible.[/quote]Actually it’s the Department of Health and Human Services that will be administering Obamacare, the only role the IRS will play is determining whether or not you have healthcare from your tax return and assessing the penalty if you don’t. But something tells me that isn’t going to reassure you very much.[/quote]
Well, that changes everything!! I feel very confident about it now (sarcasm off now).
Only the person that was in charge of the IRS targeting conservative groups at the time is in charge of the IRS part in Obamacare.
Help me understand that why someone living OUTSIDE of the US is required to maintain Obamacare mandadted insurance when they are not in the US to use it? It could not be possibly tied to the potential tax/penanlty could it?
Sweikert, interesting info.
Kwhite, watch out! Tongue in cheek again. You are so right – I have full faith and confidence that, with the IRS and the other government agencies running Obamacare, I have total confidence that no mistakes will be made. “We’re from the government and we’re here to help you.”
MUHAHAHAHA.
I once called a radio show and asked a senator, “Can you name one government program that came in on time and without budget overruns.” He couldn’t.
How about going in to the doctor for your monthly shot and being told, “sorry, Medicare doesn’t cover that anymore.”
Oh yeah. Gimme that ‘Kool-Aid’ – I’ll drink it.
[quote=”kwhite1″][quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”kwhite1″]
There is nothing to worry about, the IRS is running Obamacare, I am positive they (IRS) know exactly how to run Obamacare with the least financial impact on you as possible.[/quote]Actually it’s the Department of Health and Human Services that will be administering Obamacare, the only role the IRS will play is determining whether or not you have healthcare from your tax return and assessing the penalty if you don’t. But something tells me that isn’t going to reassure you very much.[/quote]
Well, that changes everything!! I feel very confident about it now (sarcasm off now).
Only the person that was in charge of the IRS targeting conservative groups at the time is in charge of the IRS part in Obamacare.
Help me understand that why someone living OUTSIDE of the US is required to maintain Obamacare mandadted insurance when they are not in the US to use it? It could not be possibly tied to the potential tax/penanlty could it?[/quote]
Of course they had to involve the IRS in running (enforcing) Obamacare…. it’s the government agency that people fear most and has the ability to make you penniless! They can take money right from your bank account if they choose to.
They’re already using the “tax” code as a backdoor welfare program for a good precentage of Obama supporters (ie The “earned” income credit)…. so why not!
[quote=”imxploring”][quote=”kwhite1″][quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”kwhite1″]
There is nothing to worry about, the IRS is running Obamacare, I am positive they (IRS) know exactly how to run Obamacare with the least financial impact on you as possible.[/quote]Actually it’s the Department of Health and Human Services that will be administering Obamacare, the only role the IRS will play is determining whether or not you have healthcare from your tax return and assessing the penalty if you don’t. But something tells me that isn’t going to reassure you very much.[/quote]
Well, that changes everything!! I feel very confident about it now (sarcasm off now).
Only the person that was in charge of the IRS targeting conservative groups at the time is in charge of the IRS part in Obamacare.
Help me understand that why someone living OUTSIDE of the US is required to maintain Obamacare mandadted insurance when they are not in the US to use it? It could not be possibly tied to the potential tax/penanlty could it?[/quote]
Of course they had to involve the IRS in running (enforcing) Obamacare…. it’s the government agency that people fear most and has the ability to make you penniless! They can take money right from your bank account if they choose to.
They’re already using the “tax” code as a backdoor welfare program for a good precentage of Obama supporters (ie The “earned” income credit)…. so why not![/quote]
And that my friend is very scary….they have the ability and power to make you penniless within seconds. I don’t anyone should be allowed that much power.
Actually, I’ve never thought that a government plan should cover everything. Come to think of it, why is the government in the health insurance business at all. Or the flood insurance business. The government doesn’t seem to be very good at ‘business’. The president was never ‘in business’.
“provide for the common defense” – ok, government does that
“promote the general welfare” – with things like interstate roads, standards for air, water, food (maybe they should stick to that and stop trying to provide for individual welfare)
“secure the blessings of liberty” – hmmmmmmmmHmmmmmmm. So you all move to a country that has a government plan for health insurance, which provides it’s residents with at least a basic health care plan. Go figure.
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Strangely, a lot of people who continually rant about the horrors of “socialism” seem to have no problem with it – when they are on the [b]receiving[/b] end of some government program or other.[/quote]Washington peabrains don’t seem to realize that Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid are forms of socialism [horrors!]
The result has been the abysmal state of health care in the U.S.What is the U.S. ranking of infant mortality on the 1st day of birth? The U.S. shares the same infant mortality rate as Syria, Sri Lanka, Romania, Albania, and Tonga among many others. Some of the countries BETTER than the U.S. are, among many others: Poland, El Salvador, [b]Costa Rica[/b], Serbia, Bulgaria and Bosnia/Herzegovina. The ‘best’: Sweden, Singapore, Estonia, Cyprus, Iceland, Luxembourg.
In terms of maternal health, the U.S. ranks 30 out of 176 (up from 43d in 2006). Number 1? ….Finland.
Compared with six other nations — Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom — the U.S. health care system ranks last or next-to-last on five dimensions of a high performance health system: quality, access, efficiency, equity, and healthy lives.
In terms of life expectancy, the U.S. ranks 36.
In overall health care, the U.S. ranks 37 or 38 (just behind [b]Costa Rica[/b] ) out of 190 countries. (#1 is France). But the U.S. is clearly #1 on per capita costs of health care.
This makes the medical profession and all supporting health conglomerates quite proud, and they all got together and sponsored a commemorative hymn. ([b]sing[/b] [b]along!![/b]):lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&gl=US&client=mv-google&v=yVgOl3cETb4I am mostly pro-U.S., except in governance but still would like to see all D.C. politicians converted to recycled carbon. (WAIT! – the resulting carbon dioxide would contribute to global change!)
PEHpharg
I agree with your statement
I am mostly pro-U.S., except in governance.
Swiekert you mentioned you were in the private sector.. what exactly is it that you do if you don’t mind me asking???
[quote=”pharg”]
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Strangely, a lot of people who continually rant about the horrors of “socialism” seem to have no problem with it – when they are on the [b]receiving[/b] end of some government program or other.[/quote]Washington peabrains don’t seem to realize that Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid are forms of socialism [horrors!]
The result has been the abysmal state of health care in the U.S.What is the U.S. ranking of infant mortality on the 1st day of birth? The U.S. shares the same infant mortality rate as Syria, Sri Lanka, Romania, Albania, and Tonga among many others. Some of the countries BETTER than the U.S. are, among many others: Poland, El Salvador, [b]Costa Rica[/b], Serbia, Bulgaria and Bosnia/Herzegovina. The ‘best’: Sweden, Singapore, Estonia, Cyprus, Iceland, Luxembourg.
In terms of maternal health, the U.S. ranks 30 out of 176 (up from 43d in 2006). Number 1? ….Finland.
Compared with six other nations — Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom — the U.S. health care system ranks last or next-to-last on five dimensions of a high performance health system: quality, access, efficiency, equity, and healthy lives.
In terms of life expectancy, the U.S. ranks 36.
In overall health care, the U.S. ranks 37 or 38 (just behind [b]Costa Rica[/b] ) out of 190 countries. (#1 is France). But the U.S. is clearly #1 on per capita costs of health care.
This makes the medical profession and all supporting health conglomerates quite proud, and they all got together and sponsored a commemorative hymn. ([b]sing[/b] [b]along!![/b]):lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&gl=US&client=mv-google&v=yVgOl3cETb4I am mostly pro-U.S., except in governance but still would like to see all D.C. politicians converted to recycled carbon. (WAIT! – the resulting carbon dioxide would contribute to global change!)
PEH[/quote]
Margaret Thatcher said it best…. The problem with socialism is that at some point you run out of other people’s money!
The issue isn’t helping others in need. The real issue is when a subculture presents itself that expects to be serviced by the rest of society without any effort on their part to support the very system that provides for their existence. That is where the problem is, and the issue the US is facing and not dealing with. As this subculture expands and becomes a political force the transfer of wealth accelerates until those that are actually supporting the system revolt. That is where we are now. Government spending cannot go on uncontrollably without there being a serious impact on the taxpaying workers out there. Government spending is only masking the problems, delaying the needed social changes until it will be too late to fix them.
The Euro zone currently has an unemployment rate that will drag them under. The REAL unemployment rate in the US is doing the same!
So, why a country with a socialist system?
We chose CR for a lot of positives. No standing army, great climate, friendly people, not a lot of lawyers, first rate healthcare (which we pay for). Don’t give a hoot for its social medicine system.
As for ‘entitlements’ – there are earned benefits and unearned benefits. Social Security is an earned benefit. Welfare is an unearned benefit – subculture. Some day, everyone has to learb TANSTAAFL
What am I missing here about all the U. S. citizens who abhor socialism yet are supposedly getting a free medical ride in Costa Rica? The expats I’ve talked to are all paying for some type of private insurance just as we plan to do. So how is that being a parasite on a socialist benefit?
[quote=”kwhite1″][quote=”imxploring”][quote=”kwhite1″][quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”kwhite1″]
There is nothing to worry about, the IRS is running Obamacare, I am positive they (IRS) know exactly how to run Obamacare with the least financial impact on you as possible.[/quote]Actually it’s the Department of Health and Human Services that will be administering Obamacare, the only role the IRS will play is determining whether or not you have healthcare from your tax return and assessing the penalty if you don’t. But something tells me that isn’t going to reassure you very much.[/quote]
Well, that changes everything!! I feel very confident about it now (sarcasm off now).
Only the person that was in charge of the IRS targeting conservative groups at the time is in charge of the IRS part in Obamacare.
Help me understand that why someone living OUTSIDE of the US is required to maintain Obamacare mandadted insurance when they are not in the US to use it? It could not be possibly tied to the potential tax/penanlty could it?[/quote]
Of course they had to involve the IRS in running (enforcing) Obamacare…. it’s the government agency that people fear most and has the ability to make you penniless! They can take money right from your bank account if they choose to.
They’re already using the “tax” code as a backdoor welfare program for a good precentage of Obama supporters (ie The “earned” income credit)…. so why not![/quote]
And that my friend is very scary….they have the ability and power to make you penniless within seconds. I don’t anyone should be allowed that much power.[/quote]
Kwhite, here is a new word for you. “Dhimmitude”
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