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A friend of mine just gave me a big colorful map that was given to him by the Paragon sales people
It is a professionally printed map, very big, with a big yellow line going from San Jose down to Parrita where Paragon are selling land.
The Paragon sales people told him that the big yellow line clearly showed him where the new highway was going from San Jose-Escazu-Aserri-San Ignacio-Sabanilla-Caspirola-FilaSurubres and then Parrita to Parrita.
This yellow line is not a highlighter, it’s printed.
Is this true? Because I did not think the new highway went to Parrita? Everything I have read says nothing about the new highway going anywhere near Parrita.
What is in Parrita anyway, isn’t Parrita where people those four American students drowned in riptides a few weeks ago and how there are so many earthquakes there – might be why the land is cheap?
Would love to scan the map for you but its big – about 38″ x 28″
You have been posting on We love Costa Rica for quite some time. It therefore comes a quite a surprise that you don’t know that the road we are showing has been a major bus route for many years and goes from Parrita to San Jose. The country has in fact been installing numerous street lights all along this route.
It comes as no surprise that you don’t know about this area or perhaps Jaco or Quepos its neighbors. The description of this road is being accurately portrayed. Perhaps you are not aware of the new marina either.
If you wish to see the other roads and projects under way in Costa Rica simply go to the national site Concejo Nacional de Concesiones.If you wish to see what we are doing and where are 13 projects are located simply we http://www.buycostaricanland.com/corporate
By the way you can see all of our maps on that site.You really should know what you are saying before you make such comments. Perhaps your comments are meant to simply imply negative thoughts. In any event you should take the ride from Parrita to San Jose it’s quite lovely.
William Gale
Chairman of the Board
Paragon Properties of Costa RicaI know exactly what I am saying and trust what my friend who is not trying to sell me anything – tells me. You obviously do not know what your salespeople are saying.
So what you are claiming is that your salespeople are telling your prospects that the one and only big thick yellow line on your printed map leading from San Jose to Parrita is a bus route? And they are not, as my friend was clearly told by your salespeople, telling everyone that this is the new highway from San Jose to Parrita?
For your information, that big yellow line is NOT included on any of the maps you have on your website.
The printed map also says that the Marina Pez Vela is “Currently under construction” which it is not.
And I see from your website that you were featured in the National Enquirer – Congratulations! I’m sure most real estate developers are jealous as hell at you being mentioned in such a prestigious publication.
Do you know what percentage of your clients actually take that bus from San Jose to Parrita?
And how many homes have your customers built (not “model homes) in total on the 13 different projects that you are involved with? Do you know?
Let’s set the record straight. That large yellow line is a National Road #239 and I never suggested anything else. The road you are talking about goes from San Jose to Oratina and that was the site I directed you to along with many other projects in Costa Rica. The road although not in yellow is however on every map issued by the Costa Rican Government and has been used for many years as a bus
route. Please check the statistics with the government as to its ridership.
As to the National Enquirer, I was very pleased to be mentioned with my friend Peter Weller. This article was picked up by several thousnd newspapers all over the world.
As to how many homes are going to be built. We have recieved over four hundred wriiten requests for housing brochures from our existing client base along with the commitment to start construction. All of our clients come to our design center in San Jose to select their custom homes and that is an ongoing process.
I have invested millions of dollars into these projects and individuals like you always have some smart remarks about the area and your knowledge of the area. Put up your money, comply as I have with Setena, Invu,and Minae put together the engineers architects and land planners and then maybe we can talk intelligently. My commitment to Costa Rica is significant both financially and professionally.Supposition and inuendo just don’t work with intelligent people
The Marina is under construction and slips are being sold.
William Gale
Chairman of the Board
Paragon Properties of Costa RicaEdited on Jul 05, 2006 11:25
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You don’t read very well Mr. Gale and your spelling is atrocious
If you can read my posting again, you will see that it was never suggested that YOU said the yellow line was a highway, I said that your Paragon salespeople told my friend definitively that the yellow line on your Paragon map was the new highway from San Jose to Parrita Obviously your salespeople are lying.
I did NOT ask you “how many homes are going to be built?” I did ask you “how many homes have your customers built?” That’s past tense and not future tense but, we all know that you are not going to answer that question directly because it’s my guess, Paragon has built less than ten homes for their customers (NOT including the model homes) on all 13 properties otherwise you would have proudly shown them on your website.
No doubt some of the National Enquirer readers will be impressed that you’ve sent out 400 free housing brochures but that’s hardly a crystal clear indication of how many homes are going to be built.
Talking about ‘intelligently’ I see you edited your posting THREE times and only after the third try managed to spell it correctly – Congratulations!
And, I don’t have to put up any money to talk “intellegently” (your initial spelling) and there are no suppositions or innuendos, I am telling you that your salespeople are lying through their teeth to try and sell your land.
For your future emails, I can confirm that it is not “intellegent” but is indeed spelled “I-N-T-E-L-L-I-G-E-N-T”, even after the third effort “recieved” is incorrect and should be “R-E-C-E-I-V-E-D” and “inuendos” should be “I-N-N-U-E-N-D-O-S.”
Fiona
Chairman of nothing but yes! I am retired teacher.Parrita is a small Tico city with a lot of real Costa Rica flavor so to speak. It is about a 45 minutes South of Jaco and 20 Minutes north of Manuel Antonio. The ocean currents are quite strong on most of central Pacific beaches, there are a few exceptions. Only strong swimmers that are familiar with rip tides and the ocean should swim. There are no life guards to pull you out if you get in trouble. If you do get caught in a rip, let it whisk you out, try not to panic. Once in deeper water it will let you go and you can swim parallel to the beach and out of its grip and swim back in. Most people drown in these currents because they panic(it is very frightening) and expend all there energy. If you are going to swim in the ocean I strongly suggest you google rip currents(tides) and read about them so you can be prepared.
There is an article about riptides at
I spoke with a friend of mine at Century 21 in Quepos last night who knows a little bit about that area, he assures me – to set the record straight – that they have NOT begun construction of the marina yet but if anyone can show us photographs of this construction, I will gladly post them on the site.
And just because slips are being sold does not mean that construction has begun and, to be blunt – how many people buying land from Paragon are going to be buying shares for a slip at Marina Pez Vela that start at US$120,000 for the smallest sized boat of up to 35′?
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comPS. Like fionabbb – I would also like to know how many homes have already been built – after two years is it? -By Paragon customers in total on the 13 different projects that they have? Anybody know?
I am also curious as to why more homes have not been built, I understand Paragon is just selling lots but why have more people not built yet? Perhaps most are looking long term and have not paid off there lot yet, it seems you can not build until you close. Maybe that $25k down and balance not due for 5 years sucked in a lot of people who are hoping to “flip” or sub divide the land at a later date…It seems with this financing formula you will attract more specultors than people just looking to build a second home.
Once again Scott you are inaccurate in your statements. Go to Marina Paz Vella click on Home and see the construction updates they have posted. I have some concerns about the information of your realtor friend in Quepos.
You most of all should know that we have transferred hundreds of deeds, we forwarded that information to you previously. If all of you are concerned about the number of homes being built in our projects I can only say what I previously. Over four hundred clients have signed documents indicating their desire to build homes in the very near future. I hope all of you understand the process. People who anticipate construction with us or anyone in Costa Rica have to first select their home. Permits have to be obtained so on and so on.
We own the companies that are doing the building and we are as anxious as anyone to be in that phase of real estate but it starts with the land. Our contract calls for a deposit and in order to build people have to pay off the property for the deed to be delivered. Check the records we forwarded to you Scott and see for youself the number of deeded lots that are now availble for that process to begin. It is not our desire to sell to customers to “flip” with the primary motivation of reselling of land. Everyone including yourself knows what has and is happening to the value of land in Costa Rica. We as developers understand this process all to well.The majority of our clients wish to buld and settle in Costa Rica. If they subdivide their property once it is developed to make a profit that should be obvious to even the novice. Real Estate is as you say a wonderful investment in Costa Rica. We finally agree on something.I am not going to be the only target in Costa Rica. There are numerous companies selling land in Costa Rica using our format of sale and financing. None have accomplished what we have in the short term.I am here to build not just to sell land. Perhaps some of you do not know my history. One of my previous firms was a very large tract of land on the southwest Florida coast. The name is Lehigh Acres. It is 64,000 acres. It was previously a cattle ranch. After it was developed 47,000 people live there today.
Please stop questioning my ablilty to develop and deliver. If you wish to see things done overnite you clearly do not understand the process much less the Costa Rican process. We will build communities that the people will be proud to live in. If you can’t be patient that is your problem not mine. All of you should check our website every week to see the improvemnts for yourselves.
We have hundreds of satisfied customers,not only with the quality of the land but also with what they have seen at our model home center in San Jose, and that is my concern. I will continue to be vigilant on this forum and others with people whoattempt to demean my company because of their lack of understanding or knowledge of my business. If you understood it so well you would be developing yourselves instead of attempting to discredit what we are doing.I invite all of you to take the time to visit our model home center in San Jose or better yet travel to any of our site and see what is going on for yourselves. At that time you would have the right to question what we are doing.
William Gale
Chairman of the Board
Paragon Properties of Costa RicaI hadn’t realized your definition of ‘construction’ at Marina Pez Vela meant a photograph of a truck on top of some raw land.
It would appear that fionabbb was correct in saying that you would evade her question and not confirm how many homes have already been built on your land but that’s your privilege.
We should however remember that this is a public dicussion forum and those taking part have the “right to question” what anyone is doing whenever they please.
It would be more convenient if our VIP Members only asked the easy questions but we have a very intelligent group here Mr. Gale including many real estate professionals in Costa Rica and they will ask tough questions from time to time and, I would have thought it would have been better for you to try and answer them instead of avoiding them.
Best wishes
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comThe website belongs to Maz Paz Vela and the breakwater they show and their equipment working are their photos. Take it up with them if you would like. Maybe you can ask them to send updates. I stated that construction had started and that was and is an acurate statement.
Once again you are mistating,something which has become your trademark. I answered the question about our housing and the anticipated starts. I have not evaded any of the supposed issues raised on this or any forum. I will continue to respond and shortly all of your readers will see for themselves those homes coming out of the ground.
You have several people who constantly appear on the site to start new threads and a quick review will allow anyone to see that. They a primarily purveyors of distortions of the facts. Our contracts call for an eighteen month development schedule and we on on track for all our deadlines. It should be noted that we can undergo any scrutiny by anyone willing to visit our sites which you have declined on numerous occasions. Your comment that people come to you is silly. I can’t bring three thousand acres to you and you know better.
As you well remember when we first started I linked everyone to your website thinking they might gain some insight from your years in Costa Rica. I was sadly mistaken.
Your site has turned into a tit for tat.
I cannot win I can only loose regardless of what I might do or say. One question leads to another and another.In conclusion, free speech is a wonderful democratic way of exchanging ideas. Not slander and innuendo. Read your own disclaimer at the top of the page and stick to it. If you or your readers don’t believe in what we are doing in Costa Rica that is their opinion and they are welcome to it. For God sake try to have some facts or for that matter some basis in fact when you speak.
We are offering land at reduced prices( simply check your own listings to determine) and a guarenteed construction cost to all who purchase. We are not selling off of blueprints with an if come and maybe. All of our properties are being developed which provides the opportunity for our customers to build. That’s what we promise and that is what we do.
Bill Gale
No Maravilla, I have not received a letter from Paragon’s lawyers threatening me with legal action although I have read in other forums, not this one, that they have done that to people who ask too many tough questions.
Mr Gale’s verbose emails are really quite charming after you battle through the different versions where he has corrected his numerous spelling mistakes but even though he now says that “I answered the question about housing,” a quick read through this short thread reveals that Mr. Gale has not answered this question.
The question that I have now asked three times here was “How many homes have your customers built?”
This question has not been answered but I no longer care. The fact that he plays around and refuses to answer simple questions is enough for me to make a decision to never do business with people like this.
That’s it! Sorry folks! We will not be ‘discussing’ anything more about Paragon on this website.
I am sick to death of hearing about Paragon and if the Chairman of Paragon will not answer the simplest of questions posed by our VIP Members like “How many homes have your customers built?” we have nothing to discuss.
There will be no more discussion forum posting allowed on Paragon UNLESS they are unbelievably EXTREMELY important to our VIP Members.
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comI am quite sure that after you correct my spelling you will read for content. So that can clearly see it let me repeat. Over four (4) hundred custmers have signed documents to build. The four (4) homes that are built now are privately owned and the owners are a real estate broker from California (the two homes in the Gables) and the two homes in Presidential Estates are owned by a retired insurance executive from New Jersey. Both individuals are highly qualified to evaluate what we are doing. At the risk of being “cute” as you say I’m not sure what qualifies you to evaluate something you have not seen.
Please provide your credentials as to investment experience and if you are a “qualified investor” and what qualifications you have in real estate.Maybe like others on this site you only are involved in bank scams. Ring a bell.
Marvella it is so nice to see you on this link and on virtually every site. As a result of all the advice you give I’m quite sure you won’t mind sharing your background and qualifications on such a wide variety of topics.
My attorney only becomes involved when people slander which as I’m sure some of you know is a criminal offense in Costa Rica. So, speak the truth not what you think the truth might be, or the facts as you would like them to be. That’s fair isn’t?Bill Gale
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