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July 29, 2006 at 12:00 am #177774joseph1Participant
Hello I have visited Costa Rica twice and enjoyed both visits, but when I read articles written by people who move there from the US I am for the most part dismayed.
1. they seem to be searching for something that they can not find
2. I have a feeling some are just not getting it done in US
3. Tree huggers who drive me nuts.
4. Socialist who want someone else to pay for their way of life especially healthcare.
5. Do not want to compete in the real world anymore.
6. No one owes anybody a living, get a job pay your taxesGet my point, now if you want to kick back assume everything but the responsiblity it seems like a decent place. I think a productive person can get more done in the US in one year than a life time of living in Costa Rica
Hey tell me where I am full of it
July 29, 2006 at 10:00 pm #177775DavidCMurrayParticipantThank you for sharing.
And your point is . . .?
July 29, 2006 at 10:08 pm #177776maravillaMemberYou’re not planning on move to Costa Rica, are you?
So people who defend our environment from the capitalist pigs who would destroy it to make an extra dollar, including those who don’t want the planet denuded of its forests, drive you nuts? Wow ! Where are you going to live after those other people destroy this place? In America we have 40,000,000 people without healthcare and most of those people make minimum wage which has been stalled at $5.15 an HOUR for ten years. Ever hear the term “working poor”? It is the responsibility of government to provide basic services to its citizens, including healthcare. Ah, but in the States healthcare is run by insurance companies and pharmaceutical drug lords, who are only interested in the bottom line. I was very happy to see that Costa Rica models its programs and services on those available in Italy. Terrible socialist country, that Italy. As for competing in the real world, you’re kidding, right? Who the hell wants to? The real world is getting pretty damn scary, if you ask me. And what does competing in the real world get you? Not much, except to pay more taxes and support an illegal war, that has always been about OIL! I want NO part of the real world. Been there, done that. I’m moving to Costa Rica to get away from the consumerism mentality, where everyone’s dream is to own a gas-guzzling Hummer! And didn’t Costa Rica make it to the top five places where people are the happiest? That’s certainly more than we can say about America. Also, Costa Rica doesn’t have 30% of its population popping mind-altering drugs that result in domestic and social violence. Sure, people move to CR and never find what they want. I’m not one of those people. And what was your point? I seem to have forgotten.
July 29, 2006 at 10:38 pm #177777wmaes47MemberNow at $7.25 an hour. Voted in this week.
Now that nasty McDuck’s hamburger will cost around $1.50…
July 30, 2006 at 12:40 am #177778dhsbookerMemberWould love to tell you where you’re full of it, but I’m speechless after reading your post. Hope you wake up on the right side of the bed tomorrow.
July 30, 2006 at 1:14 am #177779dinagMemberCan you tell me where you read that people that live in Costa Rica rank in the top five happiest? I’d agree with this. Just need to the article/newspaper to retrieve this.
Thanks!July 30, 2006 at 1:24 am #177780rf2crParticipantFacinating, hope joseph1 continues to visit (but not move to – don’t think he would last the 5 year average) and enjoy what Costa Rica has to offer while leaving his hard earned dollars there.
We are not “lost”, just looking forward to living a less hectic, more natural life and enjoying the Pura Vida.
July 30, 2006 at 2:10 am #177781maravillaMemberOh, yeah, BIG DEAL! That hike is to be phased in OVER THREE YEARS!! Yep, it’s great for those working poor without health insurance. Utterly disgusting is how I really feel about when the crooks in congress vote themselves huge pay hikes every year while the average guy barely can eke out a living!!
July 30, 2006 at 2:24 am #177782maravillaMemberI googled it and this is just one of many articles that came up. The good ol’ USA is number 150, despite all the Prozac that is dispensed! LOL
The tiny South Pacific Ocean archipelago of Vanuatu is the happiest country on Earth, according to a study published measuring people’s wellbeing and their impact on the environment.
Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominica and Panama complete the top five in the Happy Planet Index, compiled by the British think-tank New Economics Foundation (NEF).
The index combines life satisfaction, life expectancy and environmental footprint — the amount of land required to sustain the population and absorb its energy consumption.
Zimbabwe came bottom of the 178 countries ranked, below second-worst performer Swaziland, Burundi, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Ukraine.
The Group of Eight industrial powers meet in Saint Petersburg this weekend but have not much to smile about, according to the index.
Italy came out best in 66th place, ahead of Germany (81), Japan (95), Britain (108), Canada (111), France (129), the United States (150) and Russia, in lowly 172nd place.
Andrew Simms, NEF’s policy director, said the index “addresses the relative success or failure of countries in giving their citizens a good life while respecting the environmental resource limits on which all our lives depend.”
Nic Marks, the head of NEF’s centre for wellbeing, added: “It is clear that no single nation listed in the Happy Planet Index has got everything right.
“But the index does reveal patterns that show how we might better achieve long and happy lives for all, whilst living within our environmental means,” he said, according to British daily The Guardian.
“The challenge is: can we learn the lessons and apply them?”
Island nations performed particularly well in the rankings. But Vanuatu, with a population of around 200,000, topped them all.
“Don’t tell too many people, please,” said Marke Lowen of Vanuatu Online, the republic’s online newspaper.
“People are generally happy here because they are very satisfied with very little,” he told The Guardian.
“This is not a consumer-driven society. Life here is about community and family and goodwill to other people. It’s a place where you don’t worry too much.”
“The only things we fear are cyclones or earthquakes.”
Selected others: 17. Philippines; 23. Indonesia; 31. China; 32. Thailand; 44. Malaysia; 62. India; 64. Iceland; 70. Netherlands; 87. Spain; 88. Hong Kong; 89. Saudi Arabia; 99. Denmark; 112. Pakistan; 115. Norway; 119. Sweden; 123. Finland; 139. Australia; 154. UAE; 156. South Africa; 159. Kuwait; 166. Qatar.
July 30, 2006 at 5:20 am #177783paumatomMemberWell not to get too political, but there is virtually no chance this will become law. It was done by the majority party, on a friday evening ( less news coverage and scrutiny) after they passed a rules change allowing the minimum wage to be linked in a bill repealing the estate tax. This was to provide republicans with political cover. They can now go to their home states and claim they voted to raise the minimum wage. This has virtually no chance of making it through the Senate. These days the Republican leadership in the House only cares about creating a show for political purposes. I’ve listened to hours of debate recently on Iraq, immigration and last nights minimum wage dog and pony show. At least the Senate still tries to investigate and debate issues in a meaningful manner, the House is a complete joke.
July 30, 2006 at 8:32 am #177784joseph1ParticipantHi
Thanks for response. I expect you are right about the 5 yr. deal. I would go nuts waiting for an internet connection, or a doctors appointment at 8 AM and seen at 2 PM, DMV!!! I love the people they are very nice and have a great time with them on my visits.I have been all over the country.
It is just that I feel we all need to be pulling the wagon not just be riding in it.
I think that feeling I have comes from the fact I had to work so hard
I wonder where the money is coming from for the Pura Vida in CR. My gut says money from USA helps.July 30, 2006 at 8:33 am #177785joseph1ParticipantSounds like I got to you, sorry to ruin your day.
July 30, 2006 at 8:34 am #177786joseph1ParticipantNO
Flights leave every day bye. just do not ask for a handout from me
July 30, 2006 at 8:37 am #177787joseph1ParticipantHi
My point is I like to pull the wagon and others like to ride in it. We need more pullers than riders. Someone has to pay the bills. How is Pura Vida in CR financed.
July 30, 2006 at 11:28 am #177788dkt2uMemberMaravilla you are so out of touch with reality it’s laughable. You say “It is the responsibility of government to provide basic services to its citizens, including healthcare”……well I say balony. It is a societies responsibility to provide for their own basic needs. It is not the Governments responsibility to provide healthcare. That being said, the Government does supply basic healthcare needs to the working poor. Yes, it’s true they may not be able to walk into Stanford and say treat me, but there are umpteen Govt. programs providing some basic healthcare at little or no charge. Socialism is basically an ebismal failure everywhere it has been tried or is being tried. Even here in Costa Rica the Tico’s that can afford it go to the private hospitals. Are they selfish? Should they just give more of their money to their corrupt government so they can feel good about doing their part and trust their government is going to provide the quality of healthcare that can be obtained through the private sector? Travel to some of the panacias of Socialism and talk to the citizens about their healthcare systems. Canada’s system is nearly bankrupt as is most of the other Socialist countries that attempt it. I do not disagree that there are plenty of irresponsible people and companies who’s sole objective is profitability. There always needs to be a balance. Forced Socialism is not a balance. It is human nature to be creative. People like you expect that we are all suppose to live in this one big commune. Well it will never happen, it goes against most peoples nature. As I think Jenny said in a previous post on another subject “if you don’t work, you don’t eat. Socialism breeds much more irresponsibility and laziness than it’s intended opposite goal. The US has done more to clean up pollution and the environment than any of the people like your self will ever admit. Take a look at places like Pittsburg just 40 years ago. Yes big cities have air pollution from too many cars. It’s not going to be a corrupt Government program that eventually improves on that problem. It’s going to be some creative individuals that are free to do what they do best. Many of the Ghettos around the US’s major cities are glaring examples of failed Socialism. Lyndon Johnsons “Great Society”. All it did was create several generations of lazy people that think the rest of us owe them a living.
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