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August 7, 2007 at 12:00 am #185765mysticmaidenMember
Scott, A while back you responded strongly to the idea of perpetual tourists. Have you ever considered that some people have had nothing but problems and have been victims of fraudulent lawyers? I have been here 13 years and have just learned that my lawyer from Alfredo Fournier and Associates did not submit all the documents I gave them. I have waited patiently for 3.5 years, paid for their services and now I dont even get a return phone call. I hired another lawyer to check on the status and found out they did not submit all my documents, they did however string me along for years, with the old “the immigration dept. is terribly behind”. Be warned all expats and doublecheck!
Perpetual tourist (not by my choice)August 7, 2007 at 9:23 pm #185766AndrewKeymasterLiterally all the attorneys I knew that did immigration work when I first arrived in Costa Rica nearly eight years ago have given up on all immigration work and no longer accept clients for any kind of residency and we all know why – There’s no pussy footing around the topic – Costa Rica immigration is indeed a mess and needs SERIOUS reform before it will get better.
Having said that I do commiserate with your situation ‘mysticmaiden’ but cannot recommend to our VIP Members that they remain ‘perpetual tourists’ because that will probably become a problem for a lot of people one day.
People that plan on living here should try and get the best type of legal residency that’s most suitable for their situation.
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comAugust 9, 2007 at 12:36 am #185767mysticmaidenMemberI agree with you Scott, that is why I have been pursuing the residency. However, that does not stop unscrupulous lawyers from taking fees with absolutely no intention of following through. I am pursuing this one and a few others straight to the Colegio de los Abogados (Costa Rica’s Bar Association). What they are doing is criminal and it behooves us to take action. I have also notified the Embassy and several other haunts that Alfredo Fournier frequents looking to drum up business from unsuspecting expats. I’ll keep you posted.
August 9, 2007 at 11:02 am #185768diegoMemberColegio de los Abogados ??? Don’t waste your time. They are the front for the thieves, the ones that enable the pathetic amount of corrupt attorneys in this country. The only people I know that can steer you away from attorneys and do the job are expat consultants that are experienced and know how to sidestep the load of bull crap that goes down here and the joke most attorneys have made out of the law and more specifically “Costa Rica Justice”. I recommend going to the street. Whatever you do stay away from Ruhal Barrientos who is recommended by NAME EDITED HERE BY MODERATOR aka “numnut” has the gaul to recomend in his poorly edited book (because he is his paper pushing friend.” (I am sure he gets kickbacks). Barrientos has had legal problems and even his cohorts think him a joke. He cannot own anything is his name and drives around a beater car that he frequently changes due to those who are trying to collect financial judgements against him, (he also frequently changes offices too)while his aunty lives in an expensive home n Ezcazu (that is really his, but in her name). Colegio de Abagados, (LOL) that is short for – the Club of Thieves…
August 9, 2007 at 11:13 am #185769DavidCMurrayParticipantDoes the foregoing qualify as “slander” or “defamation”?
August 9, 2007 at 11:33 am #185770diegoMemberDavid, I know if you had your way I would be off this board because I have offended you delicate sensibilities and for that reason you, I am sure, are prejudiced against my post and because you dislike the mavericks in the heard. Regardless, the above post gives a crucial insight to the real world of CR attorneys from some one who has been in the pit with the vipers. Cry foul as you wish. It only solidifies your position in the heard. I may be provacative, but its real based on experience.
August 9, 2007 at 2:21 pm #185771DavidCMurrayParticipantDiego, your conclusions are based upon facts not in evidence. The implications for those conclusions are self-evident.
My question related to whether calling individual attorneys or attorneys collectively criminals constituted slander or defamation, nothing more.
August 9, 2007 at 2:25 pm #185772DavidCMurrayParticipantBy the way, you don’t _know_ anything of the sort; you only _think_ you know it.
There is a wide gulf of difference.
August 9, 2007 at 5:40 pm #185773mysticmaidenMemberDiego and David, see Attorneys on this page
August 10, 2007 at 1:02 pm #185774DavidCMurrayParticipantYou, too, mysticmaiden.
August 10, 2007 at 1:19 pm #185775diegoMemberDavid, I seriously doubt that you have spent even close to the amount of money and time I have in dealing with the CR legal system. Let alone living in this country with Ticos – not isolating myself amoung the Gringos. Do you even speak spanish? Get off your high horse. As a matter of fact I am willing to bet you have no experience regarding crimianal or civil suits in Costa Rica. Care to enlighten us – I thought not. Moooooove (as in cow) on to something you have some experience in, like how to buy a fancy car or build a luxuary home or that other Gringo stuff you seem to know about.
August 10, 2007 at 10:49 pm #185776DavidCMurrayParticipantDiego, I would never presume to interject myself between a man and his delusions.
August 11, 2007 at 10:10 pm #185777swaskilewiczMemberAny input on hiring a lawyer from the Association of Residents of Costa Rica (ARCR) for handling residency?
August 12, 2007 at 12:09 pm #185778DavidCMurrayParticipantWe were referred by the ARCR staff to Lic. Romulo Pacheco whose office is upstairs from the ARCR’s. His service to us and to a number of friends whom we have since referred to him has been above reproach. Residency is his primary practice and he does it well. He’s well connected at Immigration and knows the Minister.
He also has an associate who will help you through the bureaucratic maze. You’ll have to go have pictures taken, be fingerprinted, and ultimately show up at Immigration (or maybe BCR?) to get your residency card. A guide is a godsend.
It is my understanding, too, that the attorneys to whom ARCR makes referrals all charge a standard rate. Those rates depend on the class of residency for which you will qualify and whether you are a single person, couple or family, of course. Sr. Pacheco’s charges to us were much less than what two attorneys in Grecia quoted and less still than what a friend paid a third Grecia-based attorney.
August 13, 2007 at 2:21 pm #185779swaskilewiczMemberThank you for your input; I now feel more comfortable pursuing the route of residency with the ARCR and your recommendation of Romulo Pacheco.
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