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June 4, 2009 at 12:27 pm #196394BigBMember
What is the purpose of roasting the coffee with sugar?
Does anybody know if you can get real coffee cream in CR ( 18%)
BrianJune 4, 2009 at 3:39 pm #196395costaricafincaParticipantIt is very difficult and expensive, labor wise, to grow organically, here. Although most small-time farmers could be considered ‘organic’ but reality is they cannot afford to do anything except use their machetes.
Fruit and produce pickers all over the world get low wages because no-one wants to do these manual jobs anymore.
Coffee farmers pay by a unit of measure about 12x12x12,for the amount the picker has collected over the course of the day, and at a previously decided price. Most farmers in the same area pays the same.
Believe me, the farmers are not the ones who make money growing coffee! Do not believe all you read about ‘fair trade’ buyers, either.June 4, 2009 at 10:24 pm #196396ticorealtorMemberWell since IICA is a offshoot of World Org and OAS they do the normal stuff but it is the goverment and the culture of Costa Rica that has to change. My wife’s aunts and uncles work in the plantations. I think they have first hand on what the working poor is. I would like to ask people here though would you pay about 8 or 9 dollars more a pound for your coffe at starbucks or maybe 2 dollars more per cup? Maybe instead of paying more at the coffe stores you would like to just give the money? I can get you in contact with some poor workers!
By the way, Since people are willing to help out the Costa Ricans here in Paraguay we have a lot of poor workers here as well, ——
June 4, 2009 at 10:26 pm #196397ticorealtorMemberThe main reason why farmers find it hard to go organic is they have to stop farming a parcel of land for some years to get the soil ready for organic.
June 4, 2009 at 11:46 pm #196398BigBMemberTicorealtor, for what it’s worth, I may be naive about the inner workings of CR but I do give a crap as well as others.
Peace,
BrianJune 5, 2009 at 2:10 am #196399AndrewKeymasterThere are a lot of very poor workers in the USA and UK too…
But let me ask you ‘TicoRealtor’ in Paraguay (???)
As you say, since the “IICA is a offshoot of World Org and OAS they do the normal stuff,” what exactly does “normal stuff” mean? Because it seems to me that the “normal stuff” has proven to be a catastrophic failure….
So what exactly does the “normal stuff” mean? And, when do you personally think the “the culture of Costa Rica” will change?
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comJune 6, 2009 at 2:12 am #196400elindermullerMemberCafe 1860 is 100 % puro, no sugar added
Edited on Jun 05, 2009 21:13
June 7, 2009 at 9:35 pm #196401ticorealtorMemberThank you Brian for giving a crap for the poor farm workers of Costa Rica, but I belive that most people can’t look beyond their nose and figure that the rest of the world is poor. You will never be able to stop my wife’s cousins from being poor because everyone has a different perseption of poor. I am sure that Miss Hilton would think you and I are very poor. I also know that that my wifes cousins would think that the Paraguayans on the streets are poor compared to their style of living.
I think that if you really want to do somthing about it you should be ready to open your walets up at starbucks and pay another two dollars or more for that cup of coffe. Even that will not stop but what the heck maybe it will make more people feel good.
Again this is realty Brian, I don’t mean to give you a downer but that is the realty in Central and South America.
June 7, 2009 at 10:31 pm #196402BigBMemberTicorealtor,I know about reality, it is happening in my own backyard, we have a really bad homeless situation in Canada and you need to look at the different types of problems that the poor and homeless have here.
sleeping outside in the snow at minus 30 degrees
dangerous living on the streets in big towns
fruit and vegatables do not grow year round
and a lot more
No country is immune to poverty, just help where you can
I don’t drink Starbucks I do Tim Hortons,Brian
June 8, 2009 at 1:58 am #196403RenataMemberI can not believe how this thread went stray and kept going off, all the way to Canadian climate and Tim Horton’s…
Hello, anybody home? The question was why Costa Rican population is that greatly effected by stomach cancer.
I did respond with scientifically proven medical reason and what happened? Nothing at all! Only one person commented, but not a single soul said “…yes, I looked up, this is extremely important…I will do….” Stomach cancer, so deadly and so prevalent in Costa Rica, did not spark any interest on the website called WE LOVE COSTA RICA! (???)I am sorry I did not include anything of your interest to spice this subject up and maybe get your attention that way. How about if I told you that A.B. celebrity is just diagnosed, and C.D. hot chick is daying from it?
Scott, where are you? You always find time and energy to get involved when it comes to real estate, economy, politics…What about well-being and lives of the people who welcomed us to their country so warmly and graciously? I challenge you now to get involved in this cause, utilize this website and all your contacts in starting a country wide campaign fighting Helicobacter pylori. I know you’ll be glad you did…
Helicobacter Foundation: http://www.helico.com
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori
Pura vida!
P.S. get real, $2 more at the Starbucks would end up in other pockets but not in coffee grower’s
June 8, 2009 at 2:11 am #196404AndrewKeymasterRenata – I find time to get involved with “real estate, economy, politics” because I am more familiar with those topics than ‘medicine’.
I have ZERO respect for the traditional field of medicine and the disgustingly money hungry drug companies however, I – and 99% of our VIP Members – are not qualified (whether you challenge me or not) in any way to discuss these topics with any authority or experience…
If you wish to make a difference Renata then “I challenge you now to get involved in this cause” and send me a well written article – linking to lots of authoritative, expert articles to back up your case – on the topic which I will gladly publish for you …
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comJune 8, 2009 at 2:13 am #196405RenataMemberI can not believe how this thread went stray and kept going off, all the way to Canadian climate and Tim Horton’s…
Hello, anybody home? The question was why Costa Rican population is that greatly affected by stomach cancer.
I did respond with scientifically proven medical reason and what happened? Nothing at all! Only one person commented, but not a single soul said “…yes, I looked up, this is extremely important…I will do….” Stomach cancer, so deadly and so prevalent in Costa Rica, did not spark any interest on the website called WE LOVE COSTA RICA! (???)I am sorry I did not include anything of your interest to spice this subject up and maybe get your attention that way. How about if I told you that A.B. celebrity is just diagnosed, and C.D. hot chick is dying from it?
Scott, where are you? You always find time and energy to get involved when it comes to real estate, economy, politics…What about well-being and lives of the people who welcomed us to their country so warmly and graciously? I challenge you now to get involved in this cause, utilize this website and all your contacts in starting a country wide campaign fighting Helicobacter pylori. I know you’ll be glad you did…
Helicobacter Foundation: http://www.helico.com
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori
Pura vida!
P.S. get real, $2 more at the Starbucks would end up in other pockets but not in coffee grower’s
June 8, 2009 at 4:52 am #196406RenataMemberWell Scott, we all make choices what we want and don’t want to know, what our priorities are…We do not need to be experts to be open-minded, to learn, to get informed and to use what we know and what we can in helping each other.
Not long ago it was believed this planet was a flat surface…Shortly ago it was believed no bacteria can live in stomach acid…
The fact is that those bacteria exist in majority of world population causing gastritis, ulcers, cancer…And that alarming number of Costa Ricans suffer from stomach cancer.I never said you are familiar with this topic-I know you are not. Unfortunately. In my first post I invited everyone to become familiar. Why such lack of interest? Because you and others think you are not infected, so it is not “your business” and you do not care if others are?
I would like to believe that you said: “I have ZERO respect for the traditional field of medicine and the disgustingly money hungry drug companies…” without much thinking. Please re-think such a strong statement, then we can start on this one separately.
In this situation drug companies will keep making even more money-your approach is only feeding their hunger: patients continue buying all sorts of their products which ARE NOT the cure!
“and send me a well written article – linking to lots of authoritative, expert articles to back up your case” This is not “my case” and I don’t need to back up anything. The doctors who discovered bacteria already received the Nobel Prize. And, I already sent you two links. The rest is your keyboard away – simply use your Internet search, IF you want to know.
I never asked you to publish anything “for me”. Kicking this ball back to me is just your excuse Scott, and we both know it.
June 8, 2009 at 1:15 pm #196407AndrewKeymasterRenata: I don’t need to give you an “excuse” as to why I choose to write about certain topics and not others…
You will not tell me what I should be interested in, there’s no lack of interest, there is a lack of time and if I also choose not to write about this particular bacteria because I do NOT feel qualified to do so then you will have to respect that…
I was very polite in requesting that you give us an article about a topic that you are clearly passionate about but it would appear that you prefer to complain about something and then have someone else do all the work for you.
There are plenty of problems in Costa Rica as there are in every other country that we should all have more interest in, if you wish you write about them, please feel free to do so however, although you are welcome to make suggestions as to what we should write about, you will not tell me what I should write about on my own site.
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comJune 9, 2009 at 7:32 pm #196408RenataMemberNo Scott, you were not very polite; not according my standards. You were argumentative, and you gave me your attitude.
Of course you can write about what you want “on your own site”-inline with your values, motivation and “if you feel qualified”.
Obviously I have had too high expectations of you and (as you said on their behalf) 99% non-qualified VIP members.Maybe remaining 1% of “qualified members” understood what my intention was.
Maybe they understood even more then what was said here explicitly…
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