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  • #164898
    pharg
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    [quote=”Scott”]I will be genuinely thrilled if I am proven 100% wrong…[/quote]

    Consider yourself genuinely thrilled. 😉

    #164899
    sprite
    Member

    The oil drilling industry is given plenty of scientific data which is useful for their business. If they were indeed interested in a charitable donation, why not just send money and food to starving people? I think it is terribly naive to believe corporations do anything which is not related to profit.

    #164900
    bstckmn
    Member

    Be comfortable with being well intentioned but only partly wrong…Please put your energies in more important directions like price fixing in the guaro industry…I was in Puntarenas yesterday looking at the drill ship….very interesting and sitting deep in the water (lots of fuel and ballast for stability at the sea surface for deep drilling)…passed some GOM (Gulf of Mexico) tatooed roughnecks heading out from the pier asking where the Hotel Del Rey could be found…Some things are universal…

    [quote=”Scott”]I will be genuinely thrilled if I am proven 100% wrong…[/quote]

    #164901
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    One of our VIP members was kind enough to email me the following link which gives us more information about the funding problems for the ocean drilling program.

    [ http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110510/full/473137a.html ]

    Scott

    #164902
    Andrew
    Keymaster

    Might find this interesting….

    Shawn Larkin (dive expert) writes in the Tico Times how the drilling ship showed up and since then….

    “Within a day, the whales were gone.”
    “Search time for dolphins from a plane went from a half hour or less to two hours or more.”
    “Dolphins that stayed in the area developed a strange skin rash.”
    “Great areas of waters turned from marine blue to metallic brown and green.”
    “Since the drilling no whales have been reported in the area – the longest period without whale sightings that anglers and guides in Drake Bay can remember.”

    Need to pay to read it but the link is at: [ http://www.ticotimes.net/Weekend/Weekend-Columns/Marine-life-behavior-alters-after-drilling_Friday-June-17-2011/ ]

    Scott

    #164903
    sprite
    Member

    Let’s see if we hear from any corporate apologists about how it is necessary to break a few eggs in order to make an omelette. Or how supposed scientific knowledge has a small cost to the environment.
    We are nothing more than greedy, acquisitive, aggressive and destructive primates who soil our own nest with dysfunctional behavior.

    #164904
    pharg
    Participant

    [quote=”sprite”]
    We are nothing more than greedy, acquisitive, aggressive and destructive primates who soil our own nest with dysfunctional behavior.[/quote]
    No argument about that.

    “Within a day, the whales were gone.”
    All whales are migratory.
    “Search time for dolphins from a plane went from a half hour or less to two hours or more.”

    Which means…????
    “Dolphins that stayed in the area developed a strange skin rash.”
    According to…? Where is the information??
    “Great areas of waters turned from marine blue to metallic brown and green.”
    Sounds like local upwelling bringing nutrients to the surface, with a subsequent algae bloom.
    “Since the drilling no whales have been reported in the area
    see ‘migratory’. This is the time of year that many species migrate
    – the longest period without whale sightings that anglers and guides in Drake Bay can remember.”

    This is all information at the level of the photos that went around last year, of dozens of Ticos laughing and smiling as they raided endangered turtle nests for their eggs.
    http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/seaturtles.asp
    All these unverified quotes, and their source, are pure opinionated anecdotes, and would never pass for verifiable information. In my view, all these marine mammals went to Area 51.

    #164905
    aguirrewar
    Member
    #164906
    bienbien
    Member

    Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc
    Just because A occurs before B does not mean that A caused B. This is a common fallacy whereby armchair thinkers jump to conclusions without any evidence.
    The Deep Sea Drilling project drilled 624 holes around the world from 1968 to 1983, the Ocean Drilling Program drilled 653 sites from 1985 to 2003, and if there was any evidence of damage of the environment I think it would have surfaced by now. The Joides Resolution drilled site #1379 28 km off the coast of the Osa Peninsula from March 20 – April 2. I think it is silly to think that physically drilling a hole about 12″ in diameter into the seafloor 28 km offshore would have any influence on marine life. There is a tremendous amount of enviromental destruction going on in the oceans, but ocean drilling is not the cause.

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