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Versatile, you did NOT read what I wrote. Sex is normal and healthy in the the context of its purpose which is procreation and the keeping together of parents to raise their offspring. It is when sex is taken beyond its natural parameters that it becomes abnormal and immature. You can call me a “piece of work” if you like, but I am not the one complaining about paying for sex, am I?
Making a personal attack on me rather than answering my points pretty much shows us how bankrupt your position is.
sprite
i applaud your opinion even though I totally and absolutely disagree with you 100%.
[b]Sex is normal and healthy in the the context of its purpose which is procreation and the keeping together of parents to raise their offspring.[/b][i][/i]
this statement alone is [size=200]priceless[/size][b][/b]
I would hate to hear your views on masterbation 😀
you do masterbate sprite yes???? at least maybe a few times in your life 🙂
my friend who is close to 65 is in great shape and still active sexually.. but his wife who had a stroke is wheel chair bound ( has been for almost 10 years) and is not interested in sex at all.. so he enjoys visits to these sex massage parlors and has a little fun and leaves.. is he a pervert??? is he a sick perverted man sprite???
smekulyps. sprite please do not take this the wrong way but that attitude is what causes the majority of problems back in theU.S.
the United States of America has got to be the most sexually repressed society in the world.
This thread is about prostitution in Costa Rica and human sexuality in general. So let me state the obvious: All of us are products of the macro and micro cultures in which we were nurtured. How you were raised as a child and influenced as an adult determine your attitudes and beliefs. Human behavior is not a matter of innate good and evil. It is just a result of environment.
So some of us change our environment and move to Costa Rica where prostitution is legal and where the women are particularly attractive…. and it raises some questions. I am an old dog and new tricks are out of the question. So I look at men who come to Costa Rica, or to any other destination, for sexual adventure, as sexual addicts no different than drug addicts. They deserve treatment and re-education, not condemnation. I see paying for sex as a problem of the sexually addicted and I have no stake in this other than as a subject for discussion.
And I agree that America is a dysfunctional culture but sexual repression can only exist in sexual addicts and prostitution can only exist where there are sex addicts. If so many were not driven by a pathological, urgent need for sexual gratification, the prostitutes would have no business and men would not marry for sex.
So there ya go, I have solved the problem and everyone should be happy now.
So THAT’S what sex trafficing is…
I’m from Podunk, IL and I thought sex traffic was what happened when they were showing X-Rated movies at the drive-in and everyone going by on the highway slowed down to watch the dirty parts! DANGEROUS!
[quote=”sprite”]This thread is about prostitution in Costa Rica and human sexuality in general. So let me state the obvious: All of us are products of the macro and micro cultures in which we were nurtured. How you were raised as a child and influenced as an adult determine your attitudes and beliefs. Human behavior is not a matter of innate good and evil. It is just a result of environment.
So some of us change our environment and move to Costa Rica where prostitution is legal and where the women are particularly attractive…. and it raises some questions. I am an old dog and new tricks are out of the question. So I look at men who come to Costa Rica, or to any other
destination, for sexual adventure, as sexual addicts no
different than drug addicts. They deserve treatment and re-education, not condemnation. I see paying for sex as a problem of the sexually addicted and I have no stake in this other than as a subject for discussion.And I agree that America is a dysfunctional culture but sexual repression can only exist in sexual addicts and prostitution can only exist where there are sex addicts. If so many were not driven by a pathological, urgent need for sexual gratification, the prostitutes would have no business and men would not marry for sex.
So there ya go, I have solved the problem and everyone should be happy now.[/quote]
Seems like that since you state that you cannot get it up anymore then your views should be the same everyone else. I have read that many elderly people have very active sex lives. What law of yours are they running afoul of? According to you they shouldn’t be having sex.
[quote=”Versatile”]Seems like that since you state that you cannot get it up anymore then your views should be the same everyone else. I have read that many elderly people have very active sex lives. What law of yours are they running afoul of? According to you they shouldn’t be having sex.[/quote]
The question you should asking, I humbly submit, is “Who died and left him in charge?”
I know the logic of my point of view is valid and prevails when opponents can only counter by redirecting the discussion to personal attacks. For me, that signifies the end of the discussion since I know the opposition has run out of ammo.
[quote=”sprite”]I know the logic of my point of view is valid and prevails when opponents can only counter by redirecting the discussion to personal attacks. For me, that signifies the end of the discussion since I know the opposition has run out of ammo.[/quote]
You are the one pushing your opinion as the Gospel. No one attacking you personally. We just pushed back against your drivel.imo
Your so called “push back” is what is known as a fallacious argument because it does not address my points, rather it attempts to malign my sexual energies as some kind of proof for your argument.
Try using fewer emotional and unsubstantiated opinions (“can’t get it up?”) and less adjectives like “drivel” and, instead, use more facts and nouns. Otherwise, you just come off as a frustrated little child lacking the intellect to carry on a substantive conversation. And I suspect you can do better.
[quote=”sprite”]Your so called “push back” is what is known as a fallacious argument because it does not address my points, rather it attempts to malign my sexual energies as some kind of proof for your argument.
Try using fewer emotional and unsubstantiated opinions (“can’t get it up?”) and less adjectives like “drivel” and, instead, use more facts and nouns. Otherwise, you just come off as a frustrated little child lacking the intellect to carry on a substantive conversation. And I suspect you can do better.[/quote]
Sprite – in the context of this discussion, would it not be more appropriate to refer to a “fellatios argument” rather than a “fallacious argument”?
[quote=”sprite”]Your so called “push back” is what is known as a fallacious argument because it does not address my points, rather it attempts to malign my sexual energies as some kind of proof for your argument.
Try using fewer emotional and unsubstantiated opinions (“can’t get it up?”) and less adjectives like “drivel” and, instead, use more facts and nouns. Otherwise, you just come off as a frustrated little child lacking the intellect to carry on a substantive conversation. And I suspect you can do better.[/quote]
Sprite; You quicker with a keyboard and better with the words. I made my statement and i say no more.
Sprite according to your POV – people should not have sex if they are not trying to have children. That is absurd and inflammatory as it is so far from the vast majority of the worlds POV.
You ideas of normal are completely skewed. Abnormality results from what goes apart from natures laws not mans laws. It is quite natural to want sex with every erection. Now is it advisable. Well if we follow your logic, the world population would increase exponentially. After all sex is for procreation.
I suspect you will say according to limits. Now you want to limit sex because there would mean too much population growth. Families with 16 children. Instead, what society has done is created birth control. Why? What for, as we should be having sex to procreate. So who needs birth control if it is preventing the reason we are having sex (children). Is birth control a perversion? Your extreme POV is no more valid than a person that wants sex all the time. Both are off balance and unnatural.
You live in the world according to Garp (Sprite?). That is a fantasy. You offer opinions about a fantasy world which are hardly useful and therefore insulting and inflammatory. Your rhetoric is empty because it is not applicable to realty.
Prostitution runs rampant. My point: You have never done anything for a woman based on her proving sex? If you have not you are part of the tiny minority. Veiled prostitution is the way of the world.
Men’s need and I said need to procreate is taken advantage of by women. It’s a physiological need like breathing, sleeping and eating. Freud documented it well. Women use this need to prostitute themselves in acceptable ways but when it appears on a commercial level (to which it always was) people call foul.
Tell me Sprite what say you on this. Forget your repressed sense or morality regarding sex and apply it to the social ramification and male female relationships. Why should it be legal for women to prostitute themselves indirectly and not directly?
The illegality of prostitution creates sex trafficking.
That is what this thread is about? You high jacked this thread.
So prostitution is practiced in a veiled way all over the world every moment by women having sex for personal material gain. Why then is it illegal for women to have sex for material gain overtly? Repressed sexual attitudes like yours is why – and those attitude enable sex trafficking.
You want to cure sex addiction then provide sex. Eventually the addict will tire of it in most cases and move on to whatever their abusive personality requires next.
Same with drugs. Give the people what they want. If they continue to abuse it then that is their life calling. So what, the good little drones in the US abuse work habits and nobody complains. Women abuse men’s need to procreate with veiled prostitution and nobody complains. Abuse (over use) is part of life. It just is.
However, restricting the ability of the abuser to get the object of their abuse creates crime. Sex trafficking in this case.
Your proposition that everybody should have the same proclivities as yours is preposterous and therefore inflammatory as is the name calling you denounce. You just do it in a veiled way.
Funny how the women on this forum remain silent on veiled prostitution.
Silence is the voice of complicity. So i guess they agree. Sense they agree is vieled prostitution a crime?
i’ve been following this thread and forwarding the messages to my girlfriends, all of whom are getting a big fat laugh. some of the replies i got were, “i’d better be getting something out of this deal to have that grunting, sweating, overweight beast on top of me,” (referring to her husband!) or “thank GOD, he can’t get it up anymore,” or the best one, “at my age, i have something better to do with that 3 minutes!” to which several women replied, “THREE minutes??? HA! More like one or two!” carry on, boys. we gallinas are all snorting and laughing at your desperation to “get it!” and oh, all of my over-50 girlfriends think Sprite is the hero!!!!
Sprite wins the over 50 Mr cultural values America with the women. Perhaps he could parade around in panties to further amusement. I wonder how he will fare with the men. I would award him a much different honor.
Well I applaud you for having the huevos to at least write. Even though I find your response condescending and above it all.
No other woman has spoken up.
Of course with the 50 generation Sprite is the hero. The 50 generation men lose testosterone and women produce more of it.
Those with 20 to 40 something year old hormone levels feel very different about sex. Also there are women and men who like and dislike sex.
The attitude of I better get something for doing this proves my point that prostitution is everywhere, so why not legalize it.
And yes I thought this topic would bring some scrutiny but to quote the hero your reply is a case of not having a poignant one, so you demean the topic (and men in general). Where are the men-libbers as this is an obviously anti-male statement. But men should suck it up right? Just like when women physically abuse them they should suck it up right? Just like when we are emotionally abused by veiled prostitution they should suck it up right? And make sure there are no legal ways to obtain sex, thus creating a black market that sponsors the sex trade. As I said before legal prostitution takes away the “No sex for you tonight card” therefore woman hate it. And in being so selfish they create the demand for illegal prostitution which fuels the sex trade.
I find your take on this subject as amusing to be undignified, and frivolous at best. I don’t think the “amusing misdirection card” you are playing shows anything but “that just the way it is boys lump it.” That is no better than when women could not vote and men played the same card. Oh isn’t it amusing those little women want to vote. Oh it’s amusing that they want equal pay…. Things change, I say that we either make veiled prostitution illegal or make all forms of prostitution legal. If you are not for that then how about we bring on the Islamic veil. No? but of course women want every advantage and are uninterested in a level playing field as they pretend to be when it comes to giving up sexual leverage. Pure hypocrisy.
I would appreciate a serious/intelligent reply/rebuttal, that is if you have one on the subject of veiled prostitution being legal and overt prostitution being illegal.
And the obvious double standard men are now having to endure regarding abuse and cultural indignities such as men taking a kick to the groin as funny yet you never see a women being kicked in the groin, yet alone viewed as funny.
Go ahead and laugh it off if you want but that just lowers the credibility of your reply.
But a least you have the huevos to reply.
Any of you males got the nuts to opine on subject?
Oh and BTW rwegarding this
“you’re right, sprite. when i see old geezers with young tarts, i think to myself, “i hope for her sake that guy has a lot of money!” As IF she is with him for him winning personality and that comb-over!”
When I see an old guy with a young bimbo who can’t find a job, I think to myself, ”I hope for his sake that she is great in bed because he sure is not with her for the financial security, intelligence and emotional stability.”
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