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June 19, 2013 at 12:00 am #165896beansandbooksMember
While idling away in Waxahachie, Texas, of all places, I happened across an article that some of the readers/posters to this forum may find interesting. Seems as though Big Brother is perfecting yet another means of watching you. Pretty scary article, being offered to all of you without comment on my part. Go to waxahachietx.com/opinon and look for the commentary that starts with ‘Orwell revisited.”
Tap on the author’s picture and the op/ed should open.
Happy reading and is it any wonder “1984” is back on the best selling charts again.
Pura Vida, while we can!June 19, 2013 at 4:25 pm #165897waggoner41MemberTo quote Whitehead: “even the best intentions among those in government inevitably give way to the desire to maintain power and control at all costs.”
If you have not realized this fact you have your head in the sand. Corporate America has been assuring that they are represented despite the good of the people for several decades.
If you are just becoming aware of that fact you have been asleep or unconscious.
June 19, 2013 at 10:29 pm #165898daviddMember[quote=”sweikert925″]It would bother me to learn that the NSA has my phone number. It would also bother me to get blown up the next time I got on a bus or subway train. Of the two, getting blown up would bother me a whole lot more.
Here’s a thought: Why not move to some beautiful tropical country and concentrate on living your life and all the joys life has to offer instead of dwelling on all the real (or imagined) threats that may exist out there. Somewhere like, oh, I don’t know, Costa Rica maybe.[/quote]
sweikert925
I could not have said it any better and your 100% correct
all this lunacy from a country I left many years ago.. 🙂
dwelling on all the things that are beyond our control is useless.. and I am a big offender of that myself
I think sometimes it is better to live in ignorance and just deal with the things one can control. Life is too short to be even knowing what governments do or not do.
I am cutting myself off from all things political at this point unless its local here in costa rica
the U.S. will go down whatever path it may regardless of my feelings or disagreements.
so let them implode for all I care
I am going to focus on scaling the aquaponics centers and add some more solar panels to my system
and keep publishing my kindle books as this has now become a large part of my passive income.
I figure in another year I will reach just about 6 figure incomes between kindle and adsense.. and this motivates me.:)
I will also focus on building community of like minded people who share similar values and work towards support systems that can all support our community efforts.. not internet facebook communities but real live face to face people communities.
it is thru communities that will persevere as we slowly detach our dependence from the craziness of society at large.
thanks for this eye opener post
DD
June 21, 2013 at 2:03 pm #165899Kwhite1Member[quote=”davidd”][quote=”sweikert925″]It would bother me to learn that the NSA has my phone number. It would also bother me to get blown up the next time I got on a bus or subway train. Of the two, getting blown up would bother me a whole lot more.
Here’s a thought: Why not move to some beautiful tropical country and concentrate on living your life and all the joys life has to offer instead of dwelling on all the real (or imagined) threats that may exist out there. Somewhere like, oh, I don’t know, Costa Rica maybe.[/quote]
sweikert925
I could not have said it any better and your 100% correct
all this lunacy from a country I left many years ago.. 🙂
dwelling on all the things that are beyond our control is useless.. and I am a big offender of that myself
I think sometimes it is better to live in ignorance and just deal with the things one can control. Life is too short to be even knowing what governments do or not do.
I am cutting myself off from all things political at this point unless its local here in costa rica
the U.S. will go down whatever path it may regardless of my feelings or disagreements.
so let them implode for all I care
I am going to focus on scaling the aquaponics centers and add some more solar panels to my system
and keep publishing my kindle books as this has now become a large part of my passive income.
I figure in another year I will reach just about 6 figure incomes between kindle and adsense.. and this motivates me.:)
I will also focus on building community of like minded people who share similar values and work towards support systems that can all support our community efforts.. not internet facebook communities but real live face to face people communities.
it is thru communities that will persevere as we slowly detach our dependence from the craziness of society at large.
thanks for this eye opener post
DD
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Davidd, I amazes me how when the IRS/NSA was “investigating” tea party folks there was no problem. But when it reached out to Mr. & Mrs. America things start to get a bit sideways.
This is the exact reason for my departure, to a place that is very under the radar and does not have the resources to conduct such an operation. I’ll be in Belize on Tuesday if anyone needs me, hold my calls or better yet, let the NSA take a message for me (they might as well be useful while they are listening).
June 21, 2013 at 5:02 pm #165900waggoner41Member[quote=”kwhite1″] Davidd, I amazes me how when the IRS/NSA was “investigating” tea party folks there was no problem. But when it reached out to Mr. & Mrs. America things start to get a bit sideways.
This is the exact reason for my departure, to a place that is very under the radar and does not have the resources to conduct such an operation. I’ll be in Belize on Tuesday if anyone needs me, hold my calls or better yet, let the NSA take a message for me (they might as well be useful while they are listening).[/quote]
It amazes me that any one of us is worried about the government listening to us.
We express political opinions but I have yet to see anyone here advocating terrorism or the overthrow of the federal government.
The government has no interest in our opinions, only any intended subversive actions we might be advocating.Being overly concerned with the government listening to us is nothing but expressing fear.
Quoting FDR: “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” ROFLMAO :lol::lol::lol:
June 21, 2013 at 5:32 pm #165901Kwhite1Member[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”kwhite1″]
Davidd, I amazes me how when the IRS/NSA was “investigating” tea party folks there was no problem. But when it reached out to Mr. & Mrs. America things start to get a bit sideways.
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Pretty much every word in that statement is wrong with the possible exceptions of “the” and “but”. However it’s too nice a day today to get into a tussle about it.I do hope you’ve done your due diligence about Belize because according to the US State Department’s travel advisory website:
“Belize recorded 145 homicides in 2012, a record number. With a population of only 312,698 according to the 2010 country census, Belize’s per capita homicide rate of [b]46 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants[/b] in 2012 ranks among the highest in the world. While the country’s per capita homicide rate is still lower than that of other Central American countries, such as Honduras and El Salvador its year-on-year increase is of concern.”
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1055.html#crime
[The Costa Rican murder rate for 2012 just in case anyone is interested was [b]8.9 per 100,000 inhabitants[/b] and Chicago’s for 2012 was [b]18.7 per 100,000 inhabitants[/b]]
Since you’re always on about my doing something about Chicago’s murder rate I presume you’ll be tackling that problem once you arrive there.[/quote]
The murder rate is almost catching up to Chigago isn’t it.
Look at the breakdown of those numbers, out of the total residents of 300,000+, 200,000 live in Belize City and the surrounding towns. That leaves 46 killings amongst the rest of Belize. I’m not too worried. Better odds of survival than living in Chicago.
June 21, 2013 at 5:38 pm #165902Kwhite1Member[quote=”waggoner41″][quote=”kwhite1″] Davidd, I amazes me how when the IRS/NSA was “investigating” tea party folks there was no problem. But when it reached out to Mr. & Mrs. America things start to get a bit sideways.
This is the exact reason for my departure, to a place that is very under the radar and does not have the resources to conduct such an operation. I’ll be in Belize on Tuesday if anyone needs me, hold my calls or better yet, let the NSA take a message for me (they might as well be useful while they are listening).[/quote]
It amazes me that any one of us is worried about the government listening to us.
We express political opinions but I have yet to see anyone here advocating terrorism or the overthrow of the federal government.
The government has no interest in our opinions, only any intended subversive actions we might be advocating.Being overly concerned with the government listening to us is nothing but expressing fear.
Quoting FDR: “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” ROFLMAO :lol::lol::lol:[/quote]
I don’t have an issue with what they may or may not hear while I’m on the phone/computer. My issue is that they are doing it without just cause. If I was a known terrorist or had terrorist connections I would expect to be on someone’s watch list.
But John Q. Public is not and should not be on anyones list for no reason at all. I am sure they would treat any info gathered on folks with kit gloves and safegaurd that info…… I’m not ok with the cloak and dagger spying on someone who is has not shown to be a threat to national security. Just want to give a shout out to my biys at the NSA….wassss up fellas!
July 6, 2013 at 11:25 pm #165903privacyabroadMemberI don’t have an answer for the phone issue, but there is a new company in Switzerland that offers secure/private email and internet surfing through a virtual private network. Secure.privacyabroad.com
BTW – I use to live in Midlothian……very close to Waxahachie!
[quote=”beansandbooks”]While idling away in Waxahachie, Texas, of all places, I happened across an article that some of the readers/posters to this forum may find interesting. Seems as though Big Brother is perfecting yet another means of watching you. Pretty scary article, being offered to all of you without comment on my part. Go to waxahachietx.com/opinon and look for the commentary that starts with ‘Orwell revisited.”
Tap on the author’s picture and the op/ed should open.
Happy reading and is it any wonder “1984” is back on the best selling charts again.
Pura Vida, while we can![/quote] -
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