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October 17, 2006 at 8:47 pm #179215jennyMember
Thanks, your note was so full of energy. You expressed your feelings with a lot of umph. I love it.
October 17, 2006 at 8:57 pm #179216jennyMemberThanks JReily, Things you have said we dont want to hear them or believe them but then again we know that perhaps you may be telling the truth. We just dont want to believe it, but talking helps. Communication is the key to change and we need to communicate. We have been dooped into dividing our country into different groups and all of us fighting each other. Having our eyes on things that are not important. Things that keep us angry with each other.
October 17, 2006 at 10:09 pm #179217maravillaMemberRemember the burning of the Reichstag???? I think 9-11 was just another stunt to implement fascist ideals.
October 17, 2006 at 10:14 pm #179218maravillaMemberJenny, you should run for President. Your ideals are much better than the war mongers running things now. I’d vote for YOU before I’d vote for any of them.
October 17, 2006 at 11:40 pm #179219*LotusMemberLoose change plays loose with the facts, I have no desire to deconstuct many of its speculative points though. No doubt it is the gospel to some but i’m not buying it hook, line and sinker. There is also a very good film out there that makes a strong case that we never landed on the moon, I can’t remember the name but i’m sure you can find it on the web.
October 18, 2006 at 12:43 am #179220scottbensonMemberwell regarding the 3,000 men and women that have died in battle I can tell you for certainty that over 99 percent of them would do it again for the cause of freedom.
I am proud to say that I am serving my country to protect your freedoms, and to ask me or my brotherns to come home before the job is done is a insult. This is why over 98% of us voted the way we did in the last election because we have seen and have been there.I don’t know if you had seen my posting before but I have been to the
Middle east in the 90’s (and as late as 2005 and looks like I might be voleentering to go back this next spring) when the U.S. people sat back and let things get out of countrol. Personaly I don’t want our country to ever become what it was like prior to 911 by putting on the rose colard glasses and sing cum by ya thinking the world is perfect and we can all hug a middle eastern muslim and think all is right. If we don’t look at the problem of mecca putting out fatawas to raise up against western values and create a atmoshper where sharia law will be established.99% of my brotherns don’t want war but we also don’t want our country to fall to another 911 atack and will gladly fall for your rights and to keep our children safe from a world that you can’t even think of.
Let me ask have you ever thought of why the Massacre at Beslan (where thy found that 6 of the terriorst were from Arab desent) happend? Why did inosent children that were no where near Iraq, Iran or Afghanastan had to die? This is just one example of thousands that have happend in the last 5 years of middle eastern vilonce that easly could happen in your home town!
Oh yes, we could focus on all of our energy to the subjects listed above, we could pay our doctors 300,000 dollars a year, we could pay our Ford, GM, Northwest, Delta, United Airlines, American Airlines ect great wages and bennifits, We could sing cum by ra and put our rose collard glases on. How ever the real fact is you, me, and every one else don’t want to pay the high price that would keep that system running. I don’t know of too many people that would be happy to pay 900 dollars a airline ticket or 20 percent more for a car to pay the health care and wages of the auto worker, or pay out of their own pocket 1500 dollars for health insurance (which they expect their own employer to pay). You are right we need to stop spending our tax money like it grows on trees. we need to cut spending on goverment employees like health care plans and retirment packages which are the two main reasons why local goverments are going broke. We need to cut programs like the one that the U.S. goverment is funding for Jaco, and thousands of others. Like you said we need a solution and stop focusing on things that mean absolutely nothing!
I guess that is why Costa Rica is differnt, do you think they spend more money on their poor? Do you think they pay their doctors competing wages like in the U.S.? Do you think they are trying to raise the wages for a supportable income? Do you think that Gringos will pay their house keepers 14 dollars a hour?
That is why they have a saying Pura Vida!
October 18, 2006 at 12:52 am #179221scottbensonMemberRipple, do you have a theory of Cobie towers,the Embassy bombings, black hawk down and Somalia, Darhfor,Massacre at Beslan, chechnia.
Do you belive these are all propaganda and brainwashing?Last question, Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia on a wensday evening and seen the public display?
October 18, 2006 at 1:39 am #179222bradbardMemberYour comments are really obscene.
Because you don’t want to pay 20% more for a car we should slaughter 500,000+ innocent Iraqis? Great logic! You are just the kind of “patriotic” neighbor we all want.
How many more innocent lives are you willing to scarifice for $1 a gallon?
“The cause of freedom!”
“Died in battle” Are you kidding?
“Serving” your country does not need to involved BLINDLY believing what you are told.
“Protect your freedoms?” What has Iraq got to do with your “freedom(s)”
“98% of us voted the way we did”???? You might want to check on how many people voted … It ain’t anywhere near 98% and please let us know *** what exactly has 9/11 got to do with Iraq?***
Please don’t forget to remind us exactly what did Iraq have to do with 9/11?
Yours from planet earth.
October 18, 2006 at 2:17 am #179223maravillaMemberREAD MY LIPS: IRAQ HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH 9-11. NOTHING. NOT EVEN ONE GRAIN OF SAND NOR ONE DROP OF OIL!
October 18, 2006 at 2:19 am #179224maravillaMemberI was fibbing about the oil part.
October 18, 2006 at 9:06 am #179225scottbensonMemberSo where is the corilation between U.S. airlines and auto workers with the 500,000 Iraqis?
This Oil thing is really stupid! We have not recived one gallon from the Iraqis here in the U.S. Most of our oil comes from the north continental.
Again 98% of the votes from the U.S. military went to Bush and to think that we were doing blindly is showing ignoriance.
And Iraq is about a line that was drawn in the sand from the UN in the 1990’s. This is when no one would enforce any of the UN resolutions and would back down to Sadam!
But here is the question to you brad. What about the events that happend that I mentioned? Why is every one scurting around those events and only want to focus on Iraq? Have you ever been to the middle east?
October 18, 2006 at 9:10 am #179226scottbensonMemberyou are partaly right! Iraq has everything to do with not complying to UN sanctions and for 13 years flying over a no fly zone getting shoot at. Iraq has everything to do with Jihad war from the Sunies and Shiates. Iraq has everything to do with chemical war far. Iraq has a piece of the puzzle of the stability in the middle east.
October 18, 2006 at 11:15 am #179227costaricajonesMemberSB,
I salute you.
October 18, 2006 at 11:18 am #179228jennyMemberScott, I lovingly say this I am still married to and was married to a Vietnam vet during the war. He said the same things, they tell you that and you are young enough to believe it. When the reality hits is when you are spending those dark nights alive home in your room suffering from things that can not be described. Then you see that the very people you fought against for what you did not know are now our friends.
I can say this as a military wife who has suffered and also who has seen my husband suffer from the consequences of a war that should have never happened. I’ve been in the hospitals, praying with and talking to the troops. My history with the military spands three wars. You are in it you have not lived with it yet.
We have a right as US citizens to make a complaint, you do not have that right as a soldier. You gave up your citizenship when you were sworn in to service. You are obligated to have the same opinion as your leaders. Having any other opinion is in direct rebellion.
Thanks for your dedication and I appreciate your service, but I do not agree with your leadership. Some others that served and are no longer in service do not agree. With age wisdom is increased and knowledge abounds.
To speak against something does not mean we do not honor or appreciate all you are doing. You are actually giving us the best part of your life.
October 18, 2006 at 12:52 pm #179229scottbensonMemberWell thank you jenny for the support that you give to the service men, I do understand for you it must have been difficult as a wife to endure the issues that your husband went thur with the Vietnam war. How ever I don’t think I will be saying 20 years from now that Islamic terriorst will be my friends. I
This is not another Vietnam the reasons why we have conflict all over the world is a religious one for the Muslims and for the U.S., Russia, France and other countries it is freedoms.I have served in the Air Force Resevers now since 1984, (I am 41 years old) I have been to almost every country in South and Central America except 2 (If you count the amount of times I stayed in Panama it would equal well over two years), I have been to numours countrys in Europe and Asia and all over the Middle East, I have been as far north as the artic circle, I have been participated in Just Cause, Both gulf wars, Bosnia, Nobel Eagle, Iraqi Freedom, numours humanitarian efforts that have been in the recent media. If you tally up my commitment just for this year alone (from January to now) it would be over 1 1/2 mounths (by December I will have 2 months 1 week)away from home above and beyond my two weeks a year and one week end a month. (this is all volunteer)I was activated for 749 days striaght from 2003 to 2005. This tempo has not changed for me since the early 1992.
I am a soldier but it doesnt mean that I am not educated on the topic at hand and I am not being directed by any commanding officer on my opinion of the middle east. Like the mass majority of the U.S. soldiers we do support the cause, there might be a half of a percent of the total force that is speeking against the war and is showing it on recent TV adds or other properganda.
It is ok that you don’t agree with the leadership and it is your right! This is why our fathers and grand fathers have given so much. How ever I belive that it is also all of our dutie to become more informed about world issues that are increasingly creating unstabablity that is affecting our society and not just listening to rehtoric. Issues such as what I posted previously. No one has commented on the Massacre at Beslan. Why? is it because we are too politicaly correct to say the real reason why that has happened? Do we not want to understand the conflict that is between Russia and Chechnia with the Militant Muslims and we want to burry our heads in the sand again?
This is why Gringos are differnt, Ticos know that their problems are from the north and the south boarders. They will openly say what their problems are and won’t try to be politicaly correct! My mother inlaw still calls a black tico Neagro, Not a African Costa Rican Tico.
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