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Here is Scott’s question in a different thread. I am curious, also.
dougle: “Right now our concern is getting out of
of the U.S. while we still can. “Scott: “Would you care to share ‘why’ you feel that way?
“Getting out of the U.S. while we still can.”
Would love to know …
Scott
Now you’re really stirring the pot there wmaes47 but I agree – sharing our hopes and fears for the future is important …
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comWhere do I even start? Home Land Security will now start finger printing
people who travel overseas as well as those who travel to Canada and
Mexico. I understand that a manifest from airlines and ships must be
presented to HLS before they are aloud to depart. Soon there will be
National ID (an internal passport) I know this reeks of
conspiracy theory, but where there is smoke there is fire.
Our Representatives in DC have sold their souls for a dollar while
violating almost every law this country was founded on.
Personally I resent being considered “Inventory” of the U.S. Government.These are but a few URLs out there. Oh yes, there is one more. This one
pretty much sums it up as to who is running America.By all means do a little digging on this link.
Well Scott and wmaes47 there you have it. Sorry you asked?
Dougle
Maybe I am the exception to the rule but I am not leaving the United States for any of those reasons. I am leaving because I am in love with the Costa Rican lifestyle I can enjoy. While I am sure I can find many issues that aren’t perfect with the US I still believe there are a lot of things that are right with it. For me it is similiar to having grown up in NYC as an adult I left not because NYC wasn’t perfect but because I wanted to live in a different climate with a different lifestyle. I am grateful that I was born and raised in NYC because I experienced many different things and learned many lessons I feel the same about being born and raised in the USA. I am grateful for what I learned earned and experienced. I am just ready to experience Costa Rica this is a concious choice that I am making. I will not bash the US with all its faults there are still many good qualities that it has too.
I remember the cold war all the propaganda that was taught in school & then learning that the average Soviet Union resident had the same fears as we did. In hind sight both of our countries leaders spent our tax dollars in waste based on fear and distrust. I don’t know if talking could have eliminated all the money spent on building up arms and neglecting the social needs of both countries people. What I am certain is I prefer peace to war and at the same time security to fear. Real security based on a disarmed world living in peace with all our differences. Tolerance for our uniqueness rather distrust of our differences. We have been killing each other for thousands of years in the name of God whichever God you choose to kill or die for. I hear we get more intelligent with each generation if that is so then why are we still fighting the same old battles. Why does the pigment of ones skin cause distrust and hatred still why does it matter if you face east and pray 5 times a day or kneel in a pew on Sunday to pray and the look at the other as prey. Am I the one who is ignorant because I understand tolerance and living with my neighbor. I am the same no matter where I reside be it the imperfect USA or the tranquility of Costa Rica with its faults too. I have one last thing to say ….. PEACE!!!!
Now isn’t this refreshing…
Strangely enough dougle, I visit all the sites that you mention on a regular basis.
If people are willing to look beyond that scheming, mendacious little black box in the corner of the living room called a T-E-L-E-V-I-S-I-O-N they would realize within 30 minutes that most of what they think they ‘know,’ they don’t actually know at all.
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comBoy are they going to be supprised when they find out that Costa Rica has a national identification card.
This is the BIG problem, we think we can ‘escape’ to Costa Rica when we are really only delaying the inevitable… We’re going back to a place that may be 20 years behind the USA in ‘Big Brother’ terms but it’s coming…
Would strongly encourage you to see/read ‘SpyChips’ and visit and… Did you see the AMCostaRica.com headlines today? This is a BIG announcement…
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Task force against terrorism to be announced today
By the A.M. Costa Rica staffThe central government will announce the formation of an anti-terrorism task force this morning.
The task force, formally titled the Comisión Interinstitucional sobre Terrorismo, will have members from six ministries, and it will be the nation’s first serious step to address the possibilities of terrorism here.
The government in the past has taken steps against terrorism, such as bringing security of the major sea ports and airports up to international standards. But these adjustments always were done at the request of the United States or international agencies.
Government officials have long known that Costa Rica has been a safe haven for Colombian rebels. The Fuerza Armadas Revolutionarias de Colombia and other groups, listed as terrorists by the United States, have a presence here.
That was made clear Aug. 10 when agents arrested Héctor Orlando Martínez Quinto, 38, in Puntarenas. Martínez recently was deported to Colombia to face allegations that he participated in an armed attack against a village in the Chocó section of Colombia near the Panamá border where 85 persons, including 46 children, died and about 100 persons suffered injuries. He also is accused of killing 45 policemen in another confrontation.
Martínez was living as a simple fisherman but Colombian officials say he was the administrator of Fuerza Armadas Revolutionarias business here. They say he arranged the shipment of weapons, oversaw the supply of fuel to drug-running fastboats and coordinated surveillance of other Colombian refugees here. There are about 10,000 persons from that country in Costa Rica.
Costa Rica’s generous immigration policies have allowed other groups to set up shop here. Hezbollah, the Middle Eastern terrorist group, has forged ties with the Fuerza Armadas Revolutionarias to augment its existing networks.
The growth of Latin governments who are friendly to foes of the United States also complicates the situation.
Casa Presidencial said Monday that the following ministries would be represented in the new task force: Gobernación, Policía y Seguridad Pública; Relaciones Exteriores y Culto; Hacienda; Justicia y Gracia, and Obras Públicas y Transportes.
In September Costa Rica ratified a hemispheric pact designed to eliminate the financing of terrorism and to deny safe haven to suspected terrorists. However, there have been no terrorism incidents in the country since the end of the Nicaraguan Contra war.
Still, government officials are concerned, too, about the possibility of internal terrorism, sparked, perhaps, by the expected vote on the free trade treaty with the United States.
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Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comThis is the boat I find myself in at present. My wife and I are quite interested in potentially relocating to Costa Rica, but my question is how I go about securing employment etc. I’m a network security consultant at present, but am also working toward finishing a book that I began that relates to some of the issues happening in the US now. I will always love the country that I remember “used” be stand for something, but it’s only a memory now.
I wondered if one method to finding a way to relocate was to secure employment with an American company (Intel etc) that has offices in CR, or if there are any other, better ways. If anyone has any advice, I would deeply appreciate it. Thank you all very much. I wish you the best.
BTW – It’s 14 degrees F at the moment here. I don’t think I want to know how it is in CR right now 🙂
You can find jobs available by industry at I could not see ‘network security consultant’ but I could see ‘telecommunications’.
Wages here will obviously be totally different to what you are accustomed to … And you will have to have very unique skills to be able to get the correct visa…
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comwell jstarck,
I am sure that you are well aware of the rules regarding employment. How ever I have to tell you that network security consultants are everywhere in CR. One of my wifes friends works for Cisco?? as one and He is Costa Rican and travels all over central and south america. Intel is bond by the Costa Rican rules and since they are highly educated with masters degrees knocking on thier door I am sure you will have some compitition.
Thanks Scott(s).
I’m honestly concerned that I don’t really have the means to facilitate an international relocation. My current job is pretty good, but in reality, I don’t have the ability to pick up and move without having something else lined up, as you can imagine. I think I may have to go back to the drawing board and determine how realistic it is to actually consider moving overseas to CR (or anywhere else). I have the feeling that unless I have a somewhat substantial lump of capital at my disposal, a move isn’t going to be in the cards.
Personally I wouldn’t be as worried about what is going on inside Costa Rica as much as what is going on at their northern front door!
I am sure that you have read this articale this week.
Nicaragua builds relations with Iran by hosting leader
MANAGUA, NICARAGUA – Iran’s hard-line president expanded his
courtship of allies in his standoff with Washington on Sunday, pledging deeper ties with Nicaragua’s leftist leader.By Traci Carl, Associated Press
MANAGUA, NICARAGUA – Iran’s hard-line president expanded his courtship of allies in his standoff with Washington on Sunday, pledging deeper ties with Nicaragua’s leftist leader.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was in Managua as part of a
whirlwind tour with Latin America’s newly inaugurated leftist leaders. He visited fellow OPEC member Venezuela on Saturday, pledging with President Hugo Chavez to spend billions of dollars financing projects in other countries to combat the global influence of the United States.
Ahmadinejad’s tour comes as he faces rising criticism at home for his handling of the international debate over his country’s nuclear program and its alleged involvement in Iraq. Conservatives and reformists have blamed his provocative remarks for increasingly isolating Iran.
Ahmadinejad met with Nicaragua’s newly inaugurated leftist president, Daniel Ortega. In the 1980s, Ortega’s government faced a U.S.-backed guerrilla insurgency.
The leaders announced they would open embassies in each other’s capitals, strengthening ties between two countries that have had little interaction yet share troubled histories with the United States.
Their paths crossed in the 1980s during the Iran-contra affair, in which the U.S.
secretly sold arms to Iran to free American hostages, then used some of the proceeds to back contra rebels who fought Ortega’s first, Soviet-backed government.
“Our two counties have common interests, enemies and goals,” Ahmadinejad said. “We may be far apart, but we are close in heart.”
Ortega, however, did not match Ahmadinejad’s confrontational rhetoric, focusing instead on how Iran and Nicaragua should work to help the developing world.
He spoke of “constructive agreements to combat hunger, unemployment and poverty.”
Ortega, while pledging closer ties with Iran, has tried to start his new Nicaragua builds relations with Iran by hosting leaderPage 1 of 2
http://www.startribune.com/722/v-print/story/936560.html 1/16/2007My lady (from Guatemala) and I were discussing this very topic this morning over coffee reading La Nacion.
I am a capitalist with a conscience however, I would be interested to see if the socialist experiment would actually work. But our friends up North have NEVER allowed any country to even get started along the socialist path without ‘intervening,’ even when those countries were NEVER any kind of a serious threat to the USA.
Was Nicaragua ever a threat to the USA? No! But in the process of ‘intervention’ (AKA genocide) we would probably see millions more Nicaraguans flooding across the border into Costa Rica…
So let us hope that the ‘solution’ to the Nicaraguan socialist ‘threat'(in the eyes of the US neoconinterventionists) would be a catastrophic ‘problem’ for Costa Rica.
But for the politicians who want to keep US citizens (and their money) within their borders, it would be a great excuse to enforce a new application process to ‘retire abroad’ which would be for “your protection” that I have no doubt the US will implement within the next few years.
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comAaaaaggggghhhhhhh — I can’t stand it — the US will never be happy until every single living breathing thing is living in fear of terrorism or whatever their other agenda is. I know there is no escape from the b.s. and last night I was lying in bed thinking about all the recent posts on crime and violence in Costa Rica, and I have to say that the only time I am fearless, happy, relaxed, and free of anxiety about getting raped, purse-snatched, shot at random, kidnapped, car jacked, mugged, beaten or any of the other acts of mayhem that regularly plague our american society is when I am in Costa Rica where I don’t see television, don’t read the propaganda sheets disguised as newspapers, and am not living in constant fear that someone wearing a beard and headdress isn’t going to blow up the local Perimercado. The minute I set foot in Gringolandia, the fear and paranoia sets in — starting with the fascistic immigration officials and then the terrorizing TSA. It scares me to think of what is going to happen in Nicragua because we will never get our stinking fingers out of that pie. My spook friend told me two years ago NOT to think about moving to Nicaragua because the Navy Seals had moved in and were positioned for an uprising. Maybe Uruguay will be my next move, or someplace on the pampas of Argentina.
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