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sstarky – its called socializing with grigos/as. Isn’t funny how almost all the gringas I meet here have a problems with Ticas and how they live their lives. They are hell bent on brainwashing them that traditional roles are taboo and they need to compete with men. Take that screwed up line of thiinking back to where it came from. If they can’t understand traditional Tico society then leave it alone don’t start demeaning motherhood because they are insearch of more meaningful fulfillment. Like the right to dress like a whore in front of a church. Hey – give me a break – that is radical feminisim and I don’t think we need more extremist in this world.
Oh and by the way it called opining and nobody needs to be appointed god to have an opinion and express it. We are free to say what we want. If you don’t like it then don’t read it.
“i said i know women who feel that way — those are the women who had children on their own without a husband because they couldn’t find a man that was marriage material.”
Nice try… you have shown your colors when it comes to men.
Mariage material. You nean in typical femanazi fashion they checked his teeth and they were not up to snuff? What constitute marriage material? You mean the little premadona who can’t find the perfect man that is part Brad Pit and part another rung up on the socioeconomic ladder decided to find a sperm doner because who needs fathers anyways? I happen to think fathers are integral to a healthy society. Oh that’s right they are men. Ok, well I guess they are useless. Pass the barf bag.
Radical feminists are anti-family by being anti-men, anti-husbands, anti-fathers, and anti-gender-roles that have been in place since God created man and woman and that have been practiced for 6000 years. They have a militant agenda, and in pursuit of it they want to eradicate the two-parent family. And the reason they want to destroy it is this: According to their Marxist view of things, the family is a “repository of gender-oppression.”
A radical feminist named Catherine A. MacKinnon made the astounding claim that voluntary sexual intercourse could be compared with rape, because in a male-dominated, patriarchal, heterosexist society, the line between voluntary consent and coercion is blurred.
Radical feminists have even claimed that Beethoven composed his masterpiece, “Ode to Joy”, to induce men into a sexual frenzy. This is the kind of “academic contribution” the world can do without, being utterly insane; yet radical feminists take this garbage seriously, the chips on their shoulders are so huge. Truly, “feminism is a secular religion with its own high priestesses, dogmas, and initiation rituals. Its creation myth holds that on the first day Goddess created Eve, and all was right with the world. But that idyllic state was shattered when first patriarch Adam stumbled into the Garden, pounded on the table, and demanded his apple.” Yes, for these bitter and twisted women, men are the root of all evil. They constantly harp on and on about society being “male-dominated” and “patriarchal”. They hate this, and fight against it with all their might. And woe betide anyone who dares to disagree with them. In their extreme, hate-filled and militant radicalism, they have been dubbed “feminazis”.
These are the same anti male radical feminist that partake in the slut walk in front of a Costa Rican church dressed like whores yelling obscenity at the priests.
Feminazi? You decide. Where did all this insanity and hatred originate: Radical men hating Gringas.
“brood mares” what a disgusting term for motherhood. You are obviously in support of radical change to gender roles. Lets throw the baby out with the bath water. Absurd and fashionable to the women that gave us Hollywood whore values where sluts and gays are seen as mainstream and women are constantly kicking men in the groin to a laugh track. Hollywood is run by gays and feminazi and the crap they creates incites people to run airplanes into buildings. You can thank Hollywood values every time an agent gropes you at the airport.
The feminist movement has declared war on men. All manner of unpleasant things that happen to women are blamed on those linear-thinking, knuckle-dragging males. Men, who fight wars to protect women, who go out into the workplace and by the sweat of their brows earn money to feed their families, are now viewed as uncouth monsters, women-oppressors, holding women back from “achieving their full potential”
For the most part feminist are hate mongers. The rhetoric is divisive and nauseating and disrespects marriage and traditional gender roles and is obviously anti men.
that was you putting your spin on my reply. I never said any such thing. You putting words in my mouth. typical extremist behavior. paste and copy where I said women are excluded form doing anything else. You attack me personally and put words in my mouth because you know you have a weak position regarding my posts and you want to use it as a vehicle to promote your feminist anti male position.
“many women think men are useless.” That is as anti male as it gets. You are the mysandrist. It is you who is saying men are useless, I never said anything like that about women. You are projecting your disdain for men on me as if I have the same kind of disdain you have for the opposite sex. read what you write – look in the mirror and tell me who is sexist here.
OK I hear your roar.
Do you have children?
I would guess not.
Yours is the voice of extremism not common sense.
In these matters your need to be right makes you unable to understand normal thinking.
Extremist will do anything to defend their narrow thinking.
Again do you have children, if not then your POV makes perfect sense.
I guess I struck a nerve.
First of all I was making a point regarding cultural values in Costa Rica.
You extract one part/point and twist it to represent the gist of the post.
The gist of the post is cultural change in Costa Rica. Not feminist extremism.
It’s one thing to be against domestic violence and it’s another thing to be a motherhood basher (barefoot and pregnant etc).
I deplore anything violent. Men hitting women, women hitting men. I am pro woman. I am pro motherhood. The feminazis think that being a mother is degrading. Actually, it’s the most sacred of all jobs. Are you a mother? Being an involved father has been the most satisfying of all jobs.
Extremism is extremism no matter whom or what you represent. Female extremist seek to devalue motherhood. I am pro woman, I am anti femanazi. The femanazi control Hollywood. That is where the most toxic “US culture” originates.
I can’t understand why you need to attack me personally – “you must be single etc.” Your belligerency makes my point. Culturally I don’t think most Latinas would react as you to someone who is espousing a different point of view.
Yes I have many loving relationships. On a friendship level, gift level, need level and erotic level and a parental level. Again, I have children and nothing defines me more than my fatherhood. Why are you so anti-motherhood and family? Why do you view stay at home mothering as belittling? I would bet that most honorable traditional Ticas define themselves first as mothers. I am also willing to bet that they think motherhood is sacred and the most important thing they do, not as some subservient chore. I think you have swallowed so much feminist kool aide that there is no going back – no other perspective other than the feminist credo that we women must compete with men and show them that we are better than they are. “The I am woman hear me roar/nag” Helen Redy syndrome. Women and men should complement each other, not compete.
To me feminism is anti woman. I see feminist as women trying to be men instead of developing their natural feminine qualities. I am all for powerful women. But I am not for women who want to be powerful men. There is a big difference.
Women in Costa Rica know how to be both feminine and powerful (professional and stay at home mothers). Instead of seeking masculine power and imitating men, they develop their femininity and use it as a natural power. It’s unnatural for women to have masculine power. The US has become a great leader in many things but what a shame that they have done it at the expense of turning many women into men – culturally speaking.
Finally it the typical gringo/gringa thing to think that traditional Costa Rica cultural needs changing. It smells of superiority and elitist attitudes and those poor Ticas mothers having to bear children and be subservient to their husband against their will. Lets liberate them! Why would anyone want to be liberated from the most important job there is? To find fulfillment in Gringo culture at the expense of the emotional security of their family?
Helen Redy days are long gone and about as relevant as female extremism.
Are Chinese gringos?
Id say no. But why?
Doesn’t gringo have to do with having money? The connotation of the word as it is used here certainly says so.
Now I have made this point before and will do so again because I have experienced this countries for many years.
Ticos are becoming Gringos.
Ok Ok not all Ticos and before you all start jumping on me in a myriad of different manifestation, look around a bit and tell me if you do not see that the culture is changing.
More so, Ticas are becoming Gringas.
The dumping of traditional cultural traits in Costa Rica is making the current culture more progressive (witness the slut walk). I love that word progressive. Don’t you? As if progressing is always good! As in progressing along the road to hell! Hey I sure don’t want to be a progressive in that case.
Why do people think that any change is good change?
Its becoming Costa Greeda (trfic fines and cameras, new tax plans) faster than you can shake a stick at it. Just wait until good times again. This place will become ultra expensive.
So all of you that find their pocket book to be more important then their lifestyle, hang on for a while and you will be able to use your real estate as an investment vehicle to increase your financial worth. Selling out and creating upheaval in your community. Thats what Gringos do don’t they – gentrify?. Destroy community by speculating in real estate.
So will the Chinese do the same.
I think not.
personally I think they are better suited to running the world.
First the new Chinese gringo is an expert at getting along (assimilating perhaps no) but the Chinese have long been spreading their culture everywhere. Now will their new found wealth make them expansionist? Hmmm. I think not. They will remain isolationist IMO.
So will they come here and ruin the environment by building unoccupied towers as monuments to their greed and ruining the cost line to financially enrich them selves like the Americans and Europeans did? Hmmmm. What say you?
But as gringos go i think Ticos will become gringos much faster than the Chinese, even with less wealth because they will hawk themselves into debt to be wanabe Americans. Didn’t you hear tha Farid whats his name said the worldwide americans are thought to be the coolest culture? (Nauseates me as well). So all you that want to hang with Gringos and their Hollywood values and telivision morality (Jersy shores everyone) aint the hollywood writers grand?), in a few years, won’t have to look very far!
Those coming here to live a traditional lifestyle with a content stay at home wife and mother and several kids will have to look much farther! As the slut walk indicated the decline in traditional values is more like an assault powered by the feminazis up north and television.
Chinese Gringos? hmmm… Maybe?
Tico gringos? No doubt – just a matter of time
Different place – same gringo mentality….
Real quick
Mortgages are next to impossible to get if you are not a resident.
Some owner financing is available but you will most likely pay an inflated price.
Financial systems are cumbersome here along with almost everything else.
Many real estate agents don’t know what a “Realtor” is. There is no legal mandate that a real estate agent look out for you best interest.
Don’t trust title insurance. You have to do through investigation.
Prices are all over the board.
Phil Baker has written the best book for newbie’s that want to get a feel for the culture the nation and the real estate rules. Scott featured it on this site. It’s a no BS look at CR. Some of it is unflattering. My best advice is to live here if you love it and understand it. Bakers book will give you insight to living and owning here.
Ticorealtor,
OK two things:
First: Do you follow the exact letter of the law? Please reply to this question.
Second thing: perpetual tourism is legal.
This is a great article although I would not call it a balanced one. Super well written and oozing with atmosphere, romance and fantasy.
Can people make their Costa Rica dream work. Sure they can. But you have to be a fit, as its not a one size fits all destination.
Costa Rica is a great place to be free. I whole heartedly agree that the more stuff the less free. I think the question is how much freedom do we need for ourselves.
Many worthwhile things restrict ones freedom: children being a big one. But what is ones goal – happiness or responsibility. responsibility brings a deeper satisfaction and freedom brings tremendous happiness.
Its a balance. If you are so free that you blow with the wind then you may find putting down roots a calling, but if you have anchored your self deeply and life is a regrettable routine than your happiness level is low and you may need some freedom.
Can you own stuff without it owning you, Can you care enough to participate and help improve things without becoming a zealot to your cause?
Its all a balance. Priorities change with the bodies biological composition. What you wanted in your 20 may not be what you want in your 40s.
So I heavily agree with Scott that it is quite an accomplishment to have 4 years of happiness.
A fantastic article that is probably more about values than it is Costa Rica. In this case I say these people are a fit and Costa Rica facilitates who they are.
That should be the factor regarding who does and who does not move here. Does it fit who you are?
Not do you fit what is Costa Rica?
In other words, how will Costa rica affect you: rather than how will you affect Costa Rica (how will you change the country and its people to fit your needs / something many unsuspecting end up trying to do)
If you are trying to adjust, adapt and fit yourself to Costa Rica you most likely will be unhappy here.
I am talking about fitting your core personality not the various adjustments that come with moving into a different culture,
So if you have to change who you are to fit here, I would say you may want to think twice. It seems these people know what was important to them and who they are, took stock of that and determined Costa Rica was a fit.
They appear not to have come here trying to duplicate their US lifestyle for less.
Not in a free and sane world there isn’t.
Look laws are made to support peoples position inthe world. Many destroy freedom and are completely insane, They are inventions of man. Its a rigged game. That why I have such a hard time with law enforcement because if police enforce the letter of the law – people would be in jail for all kinds of natural actions. Its the laws of man and not the laws of god that the police follow but when you follow the written rule without an element of humanity you are apply law inhumanely. Those that enforce the law need to be humane. Unfortunately, there are thick headed brutes that cannot think for themselves enforcing many unatural laws. Drug use is one. Prostitution is another. Unfair taxation another,
its a crazy world designed to support the people that make the laws. There is nothing Just about justice in the eyes of the law.
Amazing! Does the madness ever stop! You know how much some states pay to house inmates? I wonder why we cant make things pay for themselves. All my life I set things up to pay for themselves and then when it gets going add a little more. Look taxpayers pay for the prisions so why should they not run themselves and turn a profit, At least the inmates will have job skills and feel more compitent about surviving outside.
I wonder if we should not be looking to the China model about goverment and business in bed together. Big greedy business is screwing everything up by pressing their advantage inhumanely.
Absoulutley David, why the hell prisoners do not work and work hard to benifit the society they have damaged is frickin beyond me.
‘over ride comestics archetecure and infrastructure’
Well from an esoteric POV I guess. Not so if your are an investor though. Curb appeal is one of the most important parts of RE investment and goes hand in hand with location.
Look if you live here its you playing field and most Ticos are not going to invest internationally. Americans should think twice because most people should live by their investments. San Jose is an acquired taste. I dont let my investments get in the way of my life. However most peoples investments are their life. I set it up differnt. Lifestyle first, investments second. I am here for the lifestyle and if you come to CR for investment first and then lifestyle you may be disappointed.
