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[quote=”maravilla”]what is the best system? The capitalistic nightmare the US created? and if it’s so great, why do the people who defend it want to move to a socialist country with welfare in the form of universal health care? you know, the thing nobody wanted in the US?[/quote]
The U.S. has an Illegal Immigration problem to the tune of roughly 12 – 15 million or so. That’s just the “illegal” part of it. Add to that the “legal” immigrants and God only knows how many people are [b]STILL[/b] trying to come to the U.S. There [b]MUST[/b] be a reason why so many people from so many parts of the world want to come to our [b]NIGHTMARE[/b] Does Costa Rica or do any of the other “socialist country with [b]WELFARE[/b] in the form of universal health care” have those same immigration problems? I think not. And that word: [b]WELFARE[/b]?? Hate it! Welfare is fine for Socialist [b]Nanny[/b] type states where people feel the [b]need[/b] to be taken care of. Welfare does not mix with the U.S. system which is based on a [b]FREE MARKET[/b]. Welfare here was originally intended to help the truly needy and not be abused the way it is now. There is no Utopia and every system has its flaws but in the U.S. we have the freedom to make choices and change things (look at Wisconsin recently). Most of us are fortunate enough to have choices (sadly many don’t…ask the Cubans). Me….I’ll take Capitalism.
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Well–it’s the best system out there, unless I’m missing something. OH!!!! I forgot about Cuba and Venezuela.[/quote]
What do you know about the Cuban and Venezuelan systems? Have you ever been to Cuba or studied the system? Or are you just mouthing the crap right wing propaganda that has been pounded into your brain since you were potty trained?
In any case, it does not matter what political system is being employed as long as the world’s currencies are being created and controlled by the same people.[/quote]
I have “lived” in the following countries: Vietnam (Saigon)–Belgium (Brussels)–Nigeria (Lagos)—France (Marseille)—Ivory Coast (Abidjan)—Brasil (Rio)—Dem. Rep. of the Congo (Kinshasa)–and Angola (Luanda). I have “visited” dozens of other places (including Venezuela). I am FLUENT in Portuguese, French and Lingala (you might have to Google that).
As far as that pile of Garbage known as Cuba….well….it seems to me that there are many tens of thousands more Cubans risking their lives and willing to die in order to flee to the U.S. than Americans trying to flee to Cuba. I think that alone says enough about Cuba. However—-I [b]DID[/b] like Desi Arnaz and I [b]LOVE[/b] Miami Sound Machine.
[quote=”sprite”]I no longer participate in the fake two party paradigm. I agree with Ron Paul on some key points, especially regarding his anti war and anti FED stands. If he were ever to be elected, he would not survive the first 6 months before the “white shoe” boys had him knocked off.
But the system selects the presidents, not the citizens. The system will select another GW Bush or Obama. Involvement in US elections is a foolish waste of time.[/quote]
Well–it’s the best system out there, unless I’m missing something. OH!!!! I forgot about Cuba and Venezuela.
He’s new to politics and people tend to either love him or hate him but Chris Christie is one who doesn’t hesitate for a moment to speak his mind and tell it like it is.
BTW—I agree about Ron Paul. He has some terrific ideas and I love listening to him speak.
[quote=”sprite”]There are two general ways to NOT pay taxes on any income; One is called tax evasion and the other is called tax avoidance. While both are morally justifiable in my opinion, only one is legally justifiable in the opinion of the IRS and the corrupted Federal courts. As we all know, tax avoidance is basically the many loopholes that the rich and corporate owners of the system have created for themselves while there is little relief for the wage slaves. I am always disappointed in the general, apathetic response of the American public to this sorry state of affairs. I guess we deserve to be the slaves we are.[/quote]
In America you have the FREEDOM to try and join the ranks of the wealthy and/or corporate owners. Once you achieve that it’s your choice whether you want to “avoid” taxes. I’m sure many do so and I’m sure there are many that do not. Whether you are able to reach that status is up to YOU…whether you want to work hard enough and make the necessary sacrifices is YOUR choice but at least you have that choice. Some will make and some will not. Many people CHOOSE not to go that route (the “slaves” I guess). That’s their choice. You’re correct in that people are apathetic but they are that way because they CHOOSE to be that way.
Gee…..maybe S & P should lower U.S. Debt rating even further. Get those long-term treasury yields down even further. 10 year yields maybe to 1.00% and 30 years to 2.50%…mortgage rates to maybe 2.00%…..
HAHA!!!! So see if there’s an answer to this:
I was born in Germany of German mother and American father. They were not married at the time. They married several years later so that for the 1st 3 or 4 years of my life I was a German citizen and then became a naturalized U.S. citizen after they married. I believe….if I wanted to….I could reclaim my German citizenship. I assume if I renounced my US citizenship for German that would not affect my US Social Security Benefits. So in that scenario if I retired to CR as a German citizen would my US Social Security benefits be taxable and if so by whom?
When there are so many ready built homes for sale where you can see exactly what you’re getting as well as there being a huge amount of lots for sale allowing the buyer to customize and control what they’e building why would anyone even think of forking money over to a developer over time on the premise that the project “may” eventually get completed? Why even take that risk when there are so many other less riskier option? Maybe I’m missing something:roll::roll:
That may be a partial solution but eventually (long after we’re all gone) won’t we be facing the same issues again? I forgot where I read this but it was very recent (within the past week or 2) where some scientist indicated that the first person to live to be 150 years old has already been born….
Did you bother to read my 1st post? My plan/suggestion is to begin the long-term process of eliminating social security so that people learn to become less “dependent” on others (government) and rely more on themselves….you know…..the way it [b]USED[/b] to be a long time ago. How we get there I’m sure there are many ways but the plan is to get there. It’s beyond me why so many people feel this NEED to have to be “dependent” on someone else or something else. We have evolved into such weaklings……
“Lofty Goal” or not something has to be done. Or we can keep doing what we have been doing and STOP complaining.
As far as that global warming stuff…..bunch of nonsense in my opinion.
[quote=”DavidCMurray”]And by the way, bill, it really isn’t OUR MONEY. Social Security IS an entitlement.
From Day One, workers and employers have paid an employment tax to fund Social Security. Those revenues are and always have been dedicated to meeting then-current beneficiaries’ present day needs. Yes, employees do “earn” credits toward meeting their own future needs, but the Social Security funds that we receive each month are NOT OURS. They’re the funds that are withheld every payday from currently active wage earners.
My grandfather enrolled in Social Security around 1935, when the program had just begun to receive payroll taxes. He contributed (a very little bit) to it for a year or so and then retired. He lived until 1952, collecting Social Security all the while, and my grandmother lived until 1958. I promise you, the money they received, and the money that all subsequent beneficiaries have received, is NOT theirs.[/quote]
Which suggests: Shouldn’t we begin the long-term process of phasing out Social Security and begin the long-term process of teach our kids and future generations to learn to to save for themselves. Why do so many people have the need to “depend” on things?
