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  • in reply to: Costa Rica Crime and Imprudence? #192446
    bradbard
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    Love McCain?

    Take a look at this ‘baby’ story

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-nickolas/the-anatomy-of-a-deceptio_b_120381.html

    The Anatomy of a Deception: How The McCains Changed Their Baby Adoption Story Just Before 2008 Campaign Began.

    Truly sickening

    More lies

    More deceit

    More cover ups

    It is the same old story

    Nothing will change

    We can expect more of the same from him and Obama – Whoever is elected, the same people behind the scenes are pulling the strings

    in reply to: Living here makes it clear there #192370
    bradbard
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    Dockers – Please see

    http://www.usaid.gov/wbg/aboutUs.html
    http://www.counterpunch.org/weir04042008.html
    http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm
    http://www.wrmea.com/archives/July_2006/0607016.html
    http://italy.usembassy.gov/pdf/other/RS22370.pdf
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0374177724?ie=UTF8&tag=ifamericankne-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0374177724

    “Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world’s population and already has one of the world’s higher per capita incomes. Indeed, Israel’s GNP is higher than the combined GNP of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, the West Bank and Gaza. With a per capita income of about $14,000, Israel ranks as the sixteenth wealthiest country in the world; Israelis enjoy a higher per capita income than oil-rich Saudi Arabia and are only slightly less well-off than most Western European countries. “

    According to Shirl McArthur, a retired U.S. foreign service officer: “Because of the uncertainties and ambiguities associated with U.S. aid to Israel, arriving at a precise figure for total direct U.S. aid to Israel probably is not possible. Parts of it are buried in the budgets of other government agencies—mostly the Defense Department (DOD)—or in a form not easily quantifiable—such as the early disbursement of aid, allowing Israel a direct gain and the U.S. Treasury a direct loss of interest on the unspent money. Given these caveats, the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (WRMEA) conservatively estimates cumulative total direct U.S. aid to Israel at $107.961 billion. ” http://www.wrmea.com/archives/July_2006/0607016.html

    “Loan guarantees are not considered foreign aid so the $7.9 billion in guarantees have been excluded …” http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/U.S._Assistance_to_Israel1.html

    “Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America’s entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.” – John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt. “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy”

    If you can read real books then you can buy your own copy at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0374177724?ie=UTF8&tag=ifamericankne-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0374177724

    “The United States is the leading provider of bilateral economic and development assistance to the Palestinians, having programmed an estimated $1.7 billion through USAID since 1993.” http://www.usaid.gov/wbg/aboutUs.html

    “US aid to the Palestinians during Fiscal Year 2007 is the Congressional Research Service’s Report “U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians”, written by Paul Morro, Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs, updated October 9, 2007. In 2007, the US provided $50 million for the U.S. Agency for International Development’s West Bank and Gaza program, as well as $77 million directly to the Palestinian Authority.” http://italy.usembassy.gov/pdf/other/RS22370.pdf

    Still want to kick my ass?

    in reply to: Living here makes it clear there #192358
    bradbard
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    This affects all of us visiting this forum. People like harvcarp can not contradict the gruesome facts that we all need to be aware of so he makes veiled threats against us when we do expose the facts about Israel.

    While the US sends a minimum of about $6.8 million per day to Israel, it sends 0.3 million per day to the Palestinians – Do you notice any difference between those two numbers?

    In 1790 Mayer Amschel Rothschild said: “Let me issue and control the nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.”

    In 1815 Nathan Mayer Rothschild stated: “I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.”

    When Nathan Mayer Rothschild’s wife died she stated that: “If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.”

    What a doll!

    In 1869 at he funeral of Grand Rabbi Simeon Ben-Iudah, Rabbi Reichorn said that:

    “Thanks to the terrible power of our International Banks, we have forced the Christians into wars without number. Wars have a special value for Jews, since Christian massacre each other and make more room for us Jews. Wars are the Jew’s Harvest, the Jew banks grow fat on Christian wars. Over one hundred million Christians have been swept off the face of the earth by wars, and the end is not yet.”

    The only thing that’s changed between then and now is that Jewish financiers are more powerful than ever.

    “Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America’s entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.”

    John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt in “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy”

    USA needs financial aid more than Israel does, in fact that’s a great idea. Now that Israel is so flush with money, maybe they should start paying us back so we can look after our own. You know small stuff like schools for our kids and repair bridges, roads and everything else that’s crumbling around us

    And the US did forgive $26 million in debt owed to it by Costa Rica – less than the amount of aid Israel receives in four days.

    I thought it was crystal clear why I was complaining which is because Jews in the US are less than 3% of the US population so why is it we have to spend 97% of our time watching the politicians trying to please 3% of our population and the Jews in Israel?

    Why do we allow them to ignore 97% of the non-Jewish people?

    Once again, are any of the facts above wrong?

    in reply to: Living here makes it clear there #192350
    bradbard
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    Are any of my facts wrong harvcarp?

    in reply to: Tapping into the equity #192218
    bradbard
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    New banking products and better banking services are supposedly a sign that an economy is developing and improving.

    What many people find puzzling and you can include me in this is that the US has always been on a mission to export it’s financial expertize (Ha!), it’s form of capitalism and plastic democracy around the world.

    Why the rest of the world even listens to us anymore, I have no idea.

    What was it that was said in this forum that was the definition of insanity? Something like you keep on doing the same things, the same way, you will keep on getting the same results.

    Like the US, I guess Cost Rica can look forward to massive unmanageable debts and deficits with a crumbling real estate market and numerous bank failures but at least Costa Rica is not in a position to start the third world war.

    We in the US are far more capable than anyone else to do that, in fact we’ve already started it.

    Pura vida!

    But why do you think real estate is less solvent here than in the US?

    in reply to: Homeland Security newest power #191940
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    “..big bad Russia” except what the US media conveniently fails to mention is that the American-armed and Israeli trained Georgian army swarmed into South Ossetia last Thursday, killing an estimated 2,000 civilians, sending 40,000 South Ossetians fleeing over the Russian border, and destroying much of the capital, Tskhinvali. The attack was unprovoked and took place a full 24 hours before even ONE Russian soldier set foot in South Ossetia.

    Who’s the bad guy now?

    in reply to: Homeland Security newest power #191938
    bradbard
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    Maravilla – I think I love you

    And whoever still believes the US government’s explanation about 9/11 – which is THE conspiracy theory – after all this time, after all the various new reports from engineers saying how impossible the official story of the buildings collapse is, how impossible the official story is about the planes, how impossible it is that there were so many military exercises taking place that very day that supposedly allowed us to let down all air defenses, how the translators knew in advance and how demolition experts have confirmed their belief that it was a controlled demolition then A: You can’t or won’t read and B: There’s really no hope for you

    PS. If you spend more than ten minutes online, you will find plenty of evidence that says the London subway bombings and the Madrid train station attack were ordered and executed by the same people that made 9/11 happen

    in reply to: Know of any good Shamans? #191981
    bradbard
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    I’m sure ‘Kenneth’ could help you with that couldn’t he?

    in reply to: Homeland Security newest power #191862
    bradbard
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    ‘Marching Off Into Tyranny’

    By Paul Craig Roberts. Dr. Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury in the Reagan Administration. He is a former Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal, a 16-year columnist for Business Week, and a columnist for the Scripps Howard News Service and Creator’s Syndicate in Los Angeles. He has held numerous university professorships, including the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Georgetown University and Senior Research Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University. He was awarded the Legion of Honor by the President of France and the US Treasury’s Silver Medal for “outstanding contributions to the formulation of US economic policy.”

    05/08/08 “ICH” — – In last weekend’s edition of CounterPunch, Alexander Cockburn updates the ongoing persecution of Sami Al-Arian by federal prosecutors. Al-Arian was a Florida university professor of computer science who was ensnared by the Bush Regime’s need to produce “terrorists” in order to keep Americans fearful and, thereby, amenable to the Bush Regime’s assault on US civil liberties.

    The charges against Al-Arian were rejected by a jury, but the Bush Regime could not accept the obvious defeat. If Al-Arian was not a terrorist, then other of the Bush Regime’s fabricated cases might fall apart, too.

    In open view, the US Department of Justice (sic) proceeded to trash every known ethical rule of prosecution. I don’t need to repeat the facts, as they are covered by Cockburn’s articles and in The Tyranny of Good Intentions.

    Instead, I want to point out another meaning of the Al-Arian case. The Justice (sic) Department itself knows that it is persecuting a totally innocent person for reasons of a political agenda–the need to convince gullible Americans of an ongoing terrorist threat. The existence of this threat is used to justify the Bush Regime’s adoption of police state measures, such as spying on Americans without warrants, arresting them without charges, and refusing to let go of them when they are cleared by juries.

    Sami Al-Arian is a fabricated terrorist created by federal prosecutors and judges in behalf of an undeclared agenda. The Al-Arian case proves that terrorists are in short supply and that the Bush Regime has had to create them out of total innocents. The “war on terror” is a hoax used to justify war crimes and the overthrow of America’s civil liberties.

    The anthrax scare is one more example of the Bush Regime’s use of disinformation to advance an undeclared political agenda. As Glenn Greenwald reminded us last week in Salon, the Bush Regime used Brian Ross at ABC News to spread the lie far and wide that US government tests proved that the anthrax mailed to various Americans, including prominent US Senators, was made in Iraq by Saddam Hussein. This lie was essential for scaring Congress into passing the Bush Regime’s Gestapo laws, such as the PATRIOT Act, and for overcoming opposition to invading Iraq.
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/print.html

    When it leaked out that the anthrax actually came from a US government lab, the Bush Regime tried to frame a US scientist, Steven J. Hatfill, but failed. On June 28th, the Los Angeles Times reported that Hatfill, “The former Army scientist who was the prime suspect in the deadly 2001 anthrax mailings agreed Friday to take $5.82 million from the government to settle his claim that the Justice Department and the FBI invaded his privacy and ruined his career.” Indeed, U.S. District Court Judge Reggie B. Walton allowed Hatfill’s attorneys two years to review all news reports and FBI evidence. Judge Walton stated: “there is not a scintilla of evidence that would indicate that Dr. Hatfill had anything to do with this.” http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-anthrax28-2008jun28,0,5742061.story

    The anthrax matter was again news last week when another US government scientist, Bruce E. Ivins, “committed suicide.” Instantly, the deceased Ivins was fingered as the culprit. Overnight a man, liked and respected by his colleagues, who had worked on American biological warfare weapons for years, became a deranged homicidal maniac who decided to murder Americans at random in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 by sending them letters containing anthrax.

    I don’t believe a word of it. But assume that it is true. Blaming the anthrax letters on Ivins does not resolve the issue of why the Bush Regime lied to Brian Ross and used ABC to put the blame on Saddam Hussein in order to invade an innocent country.

    Wouldn’t a government that would lie about something this serious lie about other serious matters?

    The Bush Regime stands against against the truth. That is why it pretends to have the power to prevent executive branch officials wanted for questioning by Congress from appearing before the people’s representatives. Nothing could make clearer the contempt that the Bush Regime has for the American people and their elected representatives than its arrogant claim that it is unanswerable to them.

    Obviously, neither the President nor the Vice President respect their oaths of office. If they will betray such a serious oath, won’t they lie about everything, even 9/11 itself?

    According to the discredited 9/11 Commission Report, a few Muslims hatched a multi-year plot that went undetected by the vast security agencies of the United States and its allies, and within one hour on one morning at four different locations defeated airport security, NORAD, the US Air Force, Vice President Cheney, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, the Pentagon’s defenses and crashed three hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center towers and the heart of the US military. Muslims were able to achieve this fantastic feat operating out of caves in Afghanistan.

    We now know for a fact that the “terrorist anthrax attack” had nothing whatsoever to do with Muslim terrorists. Even the US Government now blames white American citizens, employees of the federal government, for the anthrax letters that, at the time, were blamed on the “Osama bin Laden al Qaeda plot against America.”

    We now know for a fact that this was intentional disinformation planted by the Bush Regime on a gullible and incompetent ABC News reporter, who is a disgrace to journalism. No one denies this.

    We also know for a fact that ABC News will not say who planted on ABC the lies that committed the United States to the dishonor of an illegal invasion, war crimes, and executive branch attack on the US Constitution. How can anyone anywhere in the world rely on ABC News when it serves as a disinformation agency for a criminal regime?

    One logical conclusion is that the anthrax attack was part of the same false flag operation that pulled off 9/11. The anthrax letters made the “terrorist attack” seem wider and more general. This increased the sense of peril and Americans’ fear and anger, thereby opening wider the door for the Bush Regime’s attack on Iraq and US civil liberty.

    Now that the dead Ivins can be conveniently blamed for the anthrax mailings, the Bush Regime can declare the case closed, thus protecting the false flag operation from further risk of exposure.

    Many Americans lack the mental and emotional strength to confront the facts. The facts are too unsettling and many are relieved when the “mainstream media” spins the facts away. Many Americans find it too appalling that any part of “their” government, even a rogue operation, could possibly have been involved in any way in the 9/11 or anthrax attacks. No evidence–not even full confessions–could convince them otherwise. Many Americans have welcomed their brainwashing by the neoconservatives: America is pure; her shining virtue causes evil men to attack her; they hate us because we are good and they are evil.

    For the sake of argument, let’s accept this make-believe. It does not explain why, in order to protect us from evil men, the US Constitution needs to be dismantled and civil liberties set aside. Our Founding Fathers said that dismantling the Constitution and setting aside civil liberties are precisely what would make us unsafe in the extreme. The Bush Regime has never explained how the civil liberties guaranteed by the Constitution interfere with any legitimate response to terrorism.

    The fact still remains that the Bush Regime responded to 9/11 and anthrax letters with a comprehensive assault on US civil liberty. The Bush Regime’s assault on America has been much more successful than its assault on “terrorism.” Who remembers the promise of a “six weeks war”? Americans have been mired for 6 years in two wars without end which the neoconned Bush Regime, in alliance with Israeli zionists, seeks to expand to Iran, Pakistan, Syria, and Lebanon. The Republican candidate for president has given his commitment to a 100-year “war against terrorism.” Many Americans will vote for this candidate who wants to fight against a hoax for 100 years.

    In The Twilight of Democracy: The Bush Plan for America, Jennifer Van Bergen explains the constitutional and legal principles on which American liberty is based and the Bush Regime’s intense assault on these principles. Part I of her book sets out the Constitutional principles that are under attack. Part II details the systematic attack on the US Constitution that is the heart and soul of the Republican neoconservative Bush Regime–and a Regime it is as it asserts that it is above the law and unanswerable to law, Congress, the federal courts, and the Constitution that it is sworn to uphold

    Jennifer Van Bergan likens Bush and his brownshirt supporters to Julius Caesar in motives, though not in courage. She cites the poet Lucan who in his work Pharsalia described Caesar as he flouted the law of the Roman Republic and crossed the Rubicon with his army: “When Caesar crossed and trod beneath his feet the soil of Italy’s forbidden fields, ‘here,’ spake he, ‘peace, here broken laws be left; Farewell to treaties. Fortune, lead me on; War is our judge.’”

    Anyone who believes that the Bush Regime’s “war on terror” is about terrorism, oil, getting even with those who attacked us, bringing freedom and democracy to Muslims–whatever rationale makes the gratuitous war crimes committed by the Bush Regime acceptable to gullible Americans–needs to read Jennifer Van Bergan’s Bush Plan for America. Nothing less than American liberty is at stake.

    The hour is late. Gullible Americans are being marched off into tyranny as the promised land of safety.

    in reply to: Homeland Security newest power #191858
    bradbard
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    I don’t call myself a ‘democrat’ or a ‘liberal’ or ‘liberal democrat’ or whatever. I am a proud American and believe that if we are attacked we should respond and wipe the enemy out.

    The problem is that we invade, intervene and slaughter without being attacked, and don’t give me the 9/11 story please Kenneth, if we were to take that as a legitimate attack on the USA we should have invaded and destroyed Saudi Arabia and not Iraq or Afghanistan.

    Hundreds is plural of hundred Kenneth.

    Therefore 232 years could be described as hundreds of years beginning with the decimation of the local population when our forefathers first arrived in the USA. But don’t worry Kenneth we can probably blame that on Scott’s ancestors, the “bloody British.”

    A more recent example you might recall is that a country called Iraq has asked us to leave. You could not get more clear than: “Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki demands US withdrawal timetable.” [ http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article4288108.ece ]

    I don’t us leaving do you? And headlines like this below don’t help much do they Kenneth?

    “Revealed: Secret plan to keep Iraq under US control. Bush wants 50 military bases, control of Iraqi airspace and legal immunity for all American soldiers and contractors” [ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/revealed-secret-plan-to-keep-iraq-under-us-control-840512.html ]

    But let’s not cry over spilled milk Kenneth, forget the tens of millions dead in the past, please tell us the answer to the Iran question before we ask that one.

    Do you think we or the Israelis (are they now officially a state of the union yet because it seems to me that the presidential candidates and the press pay far more attention to what they want than what US citizens want?) have the right to just bomb the crap out of these people because we feel like it, do you? Because “all options are on the table” and we have great intelligence right?

    Ooops! I forgot the ‘intelligence about the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction has been proven to have been a total pack of lies. [ http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/05/10809/ ]

    But our politicians are telling the truth this time right Kenneth?

    From [ http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/09/8834/ ] “In his first nationally televised address on the Iraqi crisis on October 7, 2002, six days after receiving the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), a classified CIA report, President Bush told millions of Americans the exact opposite of what the CIA was telling him – a monumental lie to the nation and the world.”

    Vincent Bugliosi received his law degree in 1964. In his career at the L.A. County District Attorney’s office, he successfully prosecuted 105 out of 106 felony jury trials, including 21 murder convictions without a single loss. His most famous trial, the Charles Manson case, became the basis of Helter Skelter, the biggest selling true-crime book in publishing history. His new book – The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder is out now …

    “There is direct evidence that President George W. Bush did not honorably lead this nation, but deliberately misled it into a war he wanted. Bush and his administration knowingly lied to Congress and to the American public — lies that have cost the lives of more than 4,000 young American soldiers and close to $1 trillion.” See his short video testimony [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDAFozFn4kU ]

    in reply to: Homeland Security newest power #191851
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    My God! You’re so awesomely smart Kenneth – To think that you know all the answers before we even think of the questions. And the answers are all so simple – Wow!

    So we should keep poking our noses where they don’t belong and keep our armed forces in all of those foreign countries. That should resolve the situation.

    I’ll sleep a whole lot better now that Kenneth has solved all our problems by doing and changing absolutely nothing.

    in reply to: guns on planes? #191834
    bradbard
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    Talking about the “horrific evil” perpetrated by the US government and a “gun toting loner with a perpetual chip on his shoulder” and being “armed to the teeth.”

    From [ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7420573.stm ] – “The US has more than 12,000 nuclear weapons; the Soviet Union (sic) has about the same; Great Britain and France have several hundred, and Israel has 150 or more,” he said.

    From [ http://www.slate.com/id/2183592/pagenum/all/ ] What’s Really in the U.S. Military Budget? “For the proposed fiscal year 2009 budget, which President Bush released today, the real size is not, as many news stories have reported, $515.4 billion—itself a staggering sum—but, rather, $713.1 billion.”

    Yet the US has the balls to criticize China when they announced a 18% increase in their military spending to $59 billion [ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7276277.stm ]

    Can anyone divide $59 billion into $713 billion? Yup The US spends 12 times more than China does on it’s military …

    And the US and Donald Rumsfeld get irritated when Venezuela buys arms?

    From [ http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=1716 ] “A January 2007 Defense Intelligence Agency report estimated Venezuela had spent $4.3 billion on weapons during the previous two years, more than Iran, Pakistan or even China over the same period.”

    From [ http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8KHAS781&show_article=1 ] Former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld “I don’t know of anyone threatening Venezuela, anyone in this hemisphere…”

    Apart from his own government that is …

    From [ http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/800 ] “Now that some of the top-secret documents have surfaced that show the CIA’s complicity and involvement in the April 2002 coup, it leaves one to wonder what is next on the agenda. In September 2001, shortly after the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York, President Bush unconditionally authorized former CIA Director George Tenet’s “Worldwide Attack Matrix”, which targets leaders and prominent figures in 80 countries around the world for assassination.”

    in reply to: Homeland Security newest power #191848
    bradbard
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    And Kenneth, you don’t want to ask why: “There are millions of people in the world who hate the United States…”?

    Certainly millions more today than there were before 9/11…

    Could it be that we’ve been poking our noses where they don’t belong for hundreds of years?

    They don’t all hate us, they hate what we’ve been doing to them.

    Could it be because we have at least 350,000 US military personnel deployed worldwide in more than 1,000 US bases and or military installations in 130 countries? [ http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/global-deployments.htm ]

    in reply to: guns on planes? #191827
    bradbard
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    You are being very unfair with your language XavierTico.

    You and I as American citizens both know that when we kill someone it’s called ‘murder’ but when our government and it’s various agencies does it abroad and kills millions of people it’s called spreading “freedom and democracy.”

    When another government that we consider unfriendly to our ‘interests’ kills millions of people we call it ‘ethnic cleansing’ or simply ‘genocide.’

    And yes compadres, our US government with all it’s overt and covert interventions is responsible for killing far more people than Adolf Hitler or Saddam Hussein ever dreamed of …

    But the sad fact of the matter is all these patriotic, democratic, constitution and peace loving, legal gun owners and responsible citizens will be the first ones taken to the camps when martial law breaks out in the US.

    Scoff at the idea if you like but there are already camps in the US and there have been concrete plans for quite a while.

    Those of you without your head in the sand might want to see Vincent Bugliosi’s opening statements during the House Judiciary Committee hearing on the constitutional limits of executive power.

    “The Terrible Reality” Bush Guilty Of Murder Hearing on Limits of Executive Power: Must Watch 6 Minute Video. [http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20400.htm ]

    in reply to: guns on planes? #191820
    bradbard
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    From http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=65445&sectionid=3510203 here’s a sweet example of how we can trust our government.

    Cheney weighs fratricide to sell war on Iran
    Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:43:56

    US Vice President Dick Cheney
    Prominent journalist Seymour Hersh exposes details of a plan considered by US Vice President Dick Cheney on how to provoke war with Iran.

    “There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war [with Iran],” Hersh said recently in reference to the subject of discussion at a meeting held at Cheney’s office.

    In a July article published in the New Yorker, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist revealed information about covert US operations carried out in Iran. He did not disclose the content of the talks with Cheney in his article.

    In a recent interview with Think Progress, however, Hersh exposed that the meeting witnessed Cheney mulling over a proposal to dress up Navy SEALs as Iranians and shoot them in order to trigger a war with Iran.

    “The one (plan) that interested me the most was why don’t we build – we in our shipyard – build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy SEALs on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Strait of Hormuz, start a shoot-up,” he revealed in his recent interview.

    “Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. That’s the kind of – that’s the level of stuff we’re talking about. Provocation.”

    The well-known journalist added that the proposal was ultimately rejected.

    “Look, is it high school? Yeah. Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We’re playing, you know, who’s the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran,” he continued.

    Hersh argues that should Washington engineer ‘the right incident’, Americans will ‘support’ going to war with Iran.

    Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Myron Hersh first gained worldwide recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War.

    Don’t you feel safer now?

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