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July 12, 2010 at 6:29 pm in reply to: 46 US warships & 7,000 US Marines on route to Costa Rica? #171853chicmacMember
[quote=”kevin.smith”]read this
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/tyranny1.htm%5B/quote%5DYou should appreciate this one Kevin
chicmacMemberAnother company that I see advertising a lot is Facoli, their site is at [ http://www.facoli.com/ ]
They even have a seven minute video on You Tube which you can see at [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LeKQsKbOKQ ]
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.comchicmacMemberYou will not be allowed to register your car in Costa Rica unless you can show that it has Costa Rica insurance – Period! They don’t know/care who GEICO is and even though GEICO may cover you here – which I really doubt – Costa Rica will pay no attention to it.
The insurance monopoly will be broken eventually (I think in 2011) but that’s a few years away
chicmacMember“To suppose such a thing could happen is pure fantasy.”
Are you reading the news?
“Essential freedom?” Have you seen what GWB has done for our freedom over the last few years?
Under the pretext of retaliating for 9/11 we invade Iraq? A country that had nothing to do with 9/11? Is that “pure fantasy?”
And you think that the politicians are listening to the voters? Is that why we’re still in Iraq? Because MOST voters have made it known that they do not want to be in Iraq? [ http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm ]
And you don’t believe that there have been any serious irregularities with the last two elections in the USA?
And you know that our President is listening to his own experts when he completely ignores the reports from all of his own intelligence services. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/12/04/BL2007120401026.html?hpid=topnews
With all due respect, you are asleep and or living in a “fantasy’ world.
Take a look at http://www.infragard.net/ where you can see how they are recruiting business people to spy on you?
You know that they have also recruited 20,000+ religious leaders and trained them to be ready to persuade their flocks to turn in their guns when required. That should be interesting.
You can believe it or not, but the US administration knows that there will be bi fu…. civil unrest in the US in the near future, surprise surprise, which is why they are building detention camps.
Did you read ’10-Year U.S. Strategic Plan For Detention Camps Revives Proposals From Oliver North’ at http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=DAL20060228&articleId=2045
Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration “Clearly the detention centers are not meant to just stand there empty. Thanks to 2007’s greatest failure—the Democratic Congress—there is to be an “Extremist Beliefs Commission” to secure inmates for Bush’s detention centers.” http://www.vdare.com/roberts/080103_democrats.htm
“The Washington Post reported on February 15, 2006 that the National Counterterrorism Center’s (NCTC) central repository holds the names of 325,000 terrorist suspects, a fourfold increase since fall of 2003. A Pentagon official said the Counterintelligence Field Activity’s TALON program has amassed files on antiwar protesters.” http://shadowgovernment.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/halliburton-confirms-concentration-camps-already-constructed/
Did you read former Congressman Dan Hamburg’s recent article written with Lewis Seiler published on Monday, February 4, 2008? As you can see from the article below http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL if you have expressed an anti-war opinion, it is quite possible that you could be on that list…
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Rule by fear or rule by law?
“The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist.”
– Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943
Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of “an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs.”
Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.
According to diplomat and author Peter Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of “all removable aliens” and “potential terrorists.”
Fraud-busters such as Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, have complained about these contracts, saying that more taxpayer dollars should not go to taxpayer-gouging Halliburton. But the real question is: What kind of “new programs” require the construction and refurbishment of detention facilities in nearly every state of the union with the capacity to house perhaps millions of people?
Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), “Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies,” gives the executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in response to “a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist attack or any other condition in which the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order.”
The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on a list of “terrorist” organizations, or who speaks out against the government’s policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens and noncitizens alike.
Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure “continuity of government” in the event of what the document vaguely calls a “catastrophic emergency.” Should the president determine that such an emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he deems necessary to ensure “continuity of government.” This could include everything from canceling elections to suspending the Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a single hearing on NSPD-51.
U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up with a new way to expand the domestic “war on terror.” Her Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (HR1955), which passed the House by the lopsided vote of 404-6, would set up a commission to “examine and report upon the facts and causes” of so-called violent radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative recommendations on combatting it.
According to commentary in the Baltimore Sun, Rep. Harman and her colleagues from both sides of the aisle believe the country faces a native brand of terrorism, and needs a commission with sweeping investigative power to combat it.
A clue as to where Harman’s commission might be aiming is the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who “engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights” as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters … the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly 775,000 “terror suspects” with the number increasing by 20,000 per month.
What could the government be contemplating that leads it to make contingency plans to detain without recourse millions of its own citizens?
The Constitution does not allow the executive to have unchecked power under any circumstances. The people must not allow the president to use the war on terrorism to rule by fear instead of by law.
Lewis Seiler is the president of Voice of the Environment, Inc. Dan Hamburg, a former congressman, is executive director.
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It’s way past the time to wake up people!!
chicmacMemberDon’t you fret! The US will put immigration controls in place within the next ten years so that people will have to apply to retire outside of the us – FOR YOUR PROTECTION. So Costa Rica won’t be as busy as your thinking
That an the detention centers there building in the US is all part of the plan to keep us Gringos well and truly secure. Ha!
And for those of you who think that as fine upstanding patriots wont have to worry bout this stuff? YOU – the ones who believe in the Constitution, the REAL patriots – YOU are the one who will be placed in the detention camps first,
chicmacMemberSome people would tell you that air fresheners do nothing except damage the environment and your health.
chicmacMemberI think you will find that this will affect each passengers on all flights or ocean voyages to, from, or via the USA.
chicmacMemberBut as a fine upstanding citizen which you obviously are by the way you are thinking, you are only considering the ‘righteous’ objectives:
1. From http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2002/09/27/MN181034.DTL
“A federal “No Fly” list, intended to keep terrorists from boarding planes, is snaring peace activists at San Francisco International and other U. S. airports, triggering complaints that civil liberties are being trampled.”
“One detainment forced a group of 20 Wisconsin anti-war activists to miss their flight, delaying their trip to meet with congressional representatives by a day.”
2. From http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37167
Mr. bin Laden, you’re clear to fly. Name of mastermind, other terrorists not on suspicious-passengers list
When the most-wanted man in modern history is not included on the list of possible terrorists there are some serious deficiencies in the system which need to be addressed,” says an airport-security official familiar with the test.
3. From http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005/12/07/30000-americans-mistakenly-matched-to-watch-list/
Since last November, about 30,000 airline passengers were mistakenly matched against federal terrorist watch lists, according to Jim Kennedy, director of the Transportation Security Administration’s redress office.
Why is that some people believe that the same peope in charge of the massive friggin disaster in Iraq can somehow manage something like the ‘no-fly’ list. I
When I was serving in the Special Forces, a superior officer with many years of both overt and covert combat experience told me that it’s not the armed forces that is the best equipped and fights the best that wins, the one that wins is the one that f**** up the least because it’s all one big f*** up.
chicmacMemberBut hey baby! This is all by deliberate design.
1. We had colonies at one time and then
2. We had economic colonialism (you gotta’ read Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and if that still didn’t work…
3. We intervened and in many cases helped to overthrow democratically elected governments and now we have
4. Genetic and agricultural colonialism and soon to be total reliance on the US and ADM for all grains and many farm animals because some moron allowed them to patent some of Mother Nature’s seeds and creatures.There is no hope, I have no doubt that the human race led, pushed and provoked by the USA will destroy the planet and therefore itself within the next 25-50 years.
chicmacMemberThank you for that comnforting thought… And thank you Mr. Volcker – Unfortunately, that’s also how I feel.
I know a number of people in the agribusiness here and they are terrified of the time (which they are convinced will come soon) when we will have a serious worldwide blight (accidental or deliberate) because in the past we used to have hundreds of varieties of different crops, now only a handful of different bananas, rice and other grains.
Should someone accidentally or, purposely infect one of those staples, then we could be facing hundreds of millions of deaths due to starvation but, Hey! Ho! That would also fit in well with the depopulation goals of some of the neocon loonies.
The next disaster du jour perhaps?
Either that or some other form of biological problem because blowing up buildings is just too expensive and contarry to the Wall Street Journal’s musings the US economy/US dollar is in deep shi… already.
If you have a bio-terror problem then the big pharmaceautical companies make even more money than the US$7 billion of the tax payers money they have been given to fight the “bird-flu” that has killed what? 112 people?
Far more people die every year of the regular flu for goodness sake
Since regular flu kills about 36,000 people each year according to the CDC, maybe they could give me the equivalent in dollars to research a cure for that which would be about US$2,247,000,000,000
Oh! But that’s right, they still haven’t found cure for the common cold, or the flu and they won’t find one for avian flu either!
I just get more mad about this every damned day and I’m trying to relax here.
chicmacMemberYou are being “sold” or you are being “offered” an “investment deal.”
In this case, “pre-construction” means what exactly? As in many, many cases, does it mean they don’t have the money to buy the land yet, but with your $240K they can buy the land and then get started?
Do they have ANY experience in real estate development anywhere in the world? And most importantly, do they have a proven track record of building quality homes in Costa Rica?
To be blunt – $40K sounds like a ridiculously low price even at the “pre-construction” stage so even if it is “too good to be true” and they actually build something I can only assume that they are A: Of very poor quality and B: Very small in size and C: Not in a particularly attractive location.
Is this project located within an active volcano perhaps? 🙂
But seriously, do try and tell us a little bit more and we’ll try and give you more detailed feedback…
chicmacMemberSounds real fishy to me… I really hoped someone would come forward and show that they were the legal owner but this forum was stopped dead in it’s tracks by that one simple question.
All these people in the dozens of pages of the Paragon forum shouting about how great their deal is and not one single person – NOT ONE PERSON – can actually show that they are the legal owner of land being sold by Paragon in Costa Rica. There is something very wrong with this picture.
Maybe there’s only 300 sales instead of the 1,000 that the other post mentioned but even so, out of 300 people – NOT ONE PERSON CAN SHOW US THAT THEY OWN Costa Rica land.
So if they can’t show they own land, what is it that they do own then? Is this some kind of an IOU? I’ll give you your land one day in the future? Is it an option?
And are you saying jimliesen122 that Paragon has taken in about $50 million and they are still the legal owner of what they have been supposedly selling, is that it?
Am I the one that’s just plain dumb here? Help me to understand this… Because it looks like I’m definitely in the wrong business.
chicmacMemberYou’re American – You can NOT unplug yourself from that IRS “Matrix”
As an American you will pay income taxes on any income obtained from any part of the world and it does not matter whether you are living in Nigeria, China or Costa Rica – You are required to pay taxes on your world-wide income.
And you’re right about the advice, you will need expert tax advice from people in the US.
chicmacMember1. In November 2004 Scott first wrote about Paragon in his article – Costa Rica Land Sales – Paragon in Parrita – True? Or too good to be true? Which you can find at
In this article, one of his many concerns (#13) was that in the Paragon ‘Reservation and Purchase Agreement,’ that ‘The infrastructure of roads, electricity and water will be substantially in place within 12 months from the date of this agreement.”
Many local real estate professionals had privately voiced their concerns about Paragon long before this but I would have to ask, MORE than one year later – can ANYBODY please show us ANY photographs of this “infrastructure of roads, electricity and water?”
And yes, more than one year later Paragon’s website at still says that the Costa Rican government “… is also building an additional airport in the city of Orotina…”
According to the statement made by the Costa Rican Minister of Finance at this is NOT correct but please go ahead and prove me wrong?
Can anybody show me anything that proves that – in the words of Paragon – the Costa Rica “… is also building an additional airport in the city of Orotina…”
chicmacMemberConstruction costs at or near the beach are higher than they are in the Central Valley and will continue to go higher thanks to the price of oil. I would not trust any of these numbers you quote, just because they quote that number does not mea they will be able to build your home for that price. EVERYONE I know that has had their home built have paid at least DOUBLE what they were originally quoted.
And a five guarantee from these people means nothing. Common sense says that they can NOT make that guarantee. The price of oil may be over $100 per barrel in five years and you do not think that will affect their costs? Sure it will but they are making that guarantee because they do not plan on being here that long.
I bet you these people will not be here in five years. They will have taken your money and thousands of others = MILLIONS of your dollars and they will leave you to work out the nightmarish legal problems of trying to get title to your land…
Charlie Mac in CR
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