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[quote=”VictoriaLST”][quote=”davidd”][quote=”maravilla”] in this age of knowledge that is available at the click of a mouse, there is hardly any excuse anymore for not seeing both sides of this picture. .[/quote]
Maravilla
[b]there is NO truer statement than this!!!!!!![/b][size=200][/size]:D:D:D:D
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If only everything on the web was true…..[/quote]
Victoria
your missing the point!!!
you should never rely on ONE source but a large variety of sources
with diligence and keeping at bay your preconceived ideas of how the world should be
the truth will slowly be revealed.
you cannot ever take anything at face value
I know its alot of work
but that is what is counted on.. that the masses do not or will not dive any deeper than what is coming out of the mouths of these bureaucrats
I remember clinton as if was yesterday.. looking at the american public
I did NOT have sexual relations with monica lewisky
even better was the recent scandel with wiener and his tweet scandel
when they open up thier mouths they lie!!!
this goes on all the time and you know what thier secret weapon is
[b]PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY [/b][size=][size=200][/size][/size]
and even today you have people that react shocked!!!!:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
I was speaking with my attorney friend about this and he told me about an incident which I had no idea
that in 1946 american researches (government) went to Guatemala and deliberately infected 700 poor Guatemalans with syphilis to test the cure of penicillin
I can only imagine the atrocities that our government has done.. that we do NOT know about.
very sad and disgusting
[quote=”waggoner41″][quote=”sprite”]
Cut to the chase. What freedoms do you think you have?
[/quote]waggoner
that is truly a great question.. we toss around the word that it becomes rhertoric.
can we get a list of definitions of freedoms that we should have or do have??? here is an interesting article called
[b]10 Reasons The U.S. Is No Longer The Land Of The Free[/b]
http://jonathanturley.org/2012/01/15/10-reasons-the-u-s-is-no-longer-the-land-of-the-free/
what is freedom really and can we ever be truly free??? if you ask people of the United states they would regurgitate some sound bite
a great quote from escape from New York
I spoke with a friend that lives in Oregon and he thinks that is the most free place to be
love to hear what freedom means to other people
thanks
david
waggoneer
what your saying regarding Sprite handing over his money is just as silly
what Sprite is saying keeping your long term assets in fiat dollars currency is the problem.
do you have your wealth assets in dollars??? I would hope NOT. as I recall your getting SS or maybe a pension.
if this is your only long term strategy than you should be nervous.
we have now actual towns and communities in the U.S. that are coming up with their own currency. you need to google this.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/17/pf/local_currency/index.htm
you also have business also accepting euros and other forms of currency for purchases.
give it some time and you will see the almighty dollar become less and less.
Life is very different between the W-2 person that worked for a company all his life and now receives a social security and pension
as opposed to a businessman that was more in control in his day to day wealth growth and preservation.
they see the world with 2 different sets of glasses
NOTE: I am not saying either one is bad. just making a point.
David
PS. in 15 years I have seen the faith in the dollars change dramatically here. I remember dollars were pretty much accepted everywhere here. it was like wow!!! dollars
fast forward now.. i find more and more people NOT accepting or NOT preferring dollars here. this has been my personal observation.
PPS. just wait until a crisis occurs.. like the dollar NOT being the oil currency and it will be part of a larger basket of currency’s.
lots of things are going on and sadly it spears to be intentional.
[quote=”maravilla”] in this age of knowledge that is available at the click of a mouse, there is hardly any excuse anymore for not seeing both sides of this picture. .[/quote]
Maravilla
[b]there is NO truer statement than this!!!!!!![/b][size=200][/size]:D:D:D:D
Never EVER
pay anything here in costa rica with debit card
only credit card from the U.S. or cash
once something happens the premise falls on you to fix it which can takes alot of time.
once i had an atm NOT spit out $100 cash but the receipt stated I got the money
the hassle to get that $$ back was NOT worth the trouble
Maravilla
most people walk around in a sleep like state not even realizing what is going on around them.
i agree that the masses are ignorant but are quick to defend things they do NOT know or have a good understanding.
I spent the last 3 years immersing myself more and more in specifics areas of politics and economics attempting to understand what the hell is going on and to try to get a better understanding.
but the more I dive into the rabbit hole the more I realize that everyone is nuts!!!
and the people that are awake are either becoming preppers or they leave the country.
after this recent election I am now disconnecting to this area since it’s a time consuming task that does nothing except create more and questions.
I am going into 2013 to focus more on areas that are within my control and hopefully teach my kids self reliance and perseverance
and to never ever ever give up on thier dreams.
[quote=”costaricabill”]No surprise! If the USA voted to give fresh milk to babies, CR would vote against it![/quote]
costa rica bill
it saddens me to say this BUT
because of the years of incompetence and LIES of the U.S. goverment.
I never believe anything at face value anylonger with them. since they always have a hidden agenda.
[b]so yes. if the U.S. decided to give fresh milk to babies[/b]
I would vote against it. :x:x:x
Waggoner
so in other words and correct me if I am wrong
the DEBT is NOT real??? its all make believe
so what does it matter if the fed keeps printing trillions of dollars more since its only monopoly money.
and what does this do to the purchasing power of the dollar world wide or internally??
nothing???
it’s such a con game it would be funny if it was not true.
fractional banking, leveraged debt, unlawful preemptive wars , these are the true weapons of mass destruction.
[quote=”maravilla”]i pay my prop taxes every year in january. i guess i will just go to the muni and ask them what they are for this year and see if they tell me i have to do a re-eval. i can’t imagine that i do, but hey, who knows?[/quote]
Maravilla
here is a secret!!!
every 5 years they re-eval property taxes and such.
what you do is go to the muni office and request the form so YOU can re eval your property. in this way you let it go up slightly :D:D:D:D
if you dont do this then they send someone who does this and it will be at least 2 to 3 times more
this is what your neigbor was doing
[quote=”DavidCMurray”][quote=”sprite”]What you are seeing may be nothing more than the globalist leveling out of extremes into one big bland enslaved planet.[/quote]
Ever the optimist, eh, sprity[/quote]
yes sprite you actually gave me the chills with that statement 🙂
[quote=”sprite”]The value of any type of money is based on the confidence of the people using it. If there is no confidence whatsoever because society has completely broken down, then the only thing left is barter. Whatever is used as money or barter has to either have intrinsic value or actual value. Gold and silver have been used as money for 5000 years. Unless we enter into a radically different world wide paradigm, and we could, I suppose, gold and silver will retain the role of money when fiat paper currency dies ( and it always has died historically.[/quote]
David
having gold and silver will allow you to exchange for whatever currency arises then you can use that for daily living.
I don’t think you will be using gold or silver in small denominations for daily living.
I am sure a new currency or way for people to exchange products and services will arises again.
now having certain skill sets.. you will always be in demand.. so you can essentially trade your skill sets for specific items
which has alot of value.
Sprite
can you offer fiat currency’s of the past that have collapsed???
would like to read up on this topic
thanks
David
PS. BTW just being in costa rica will offer some protection because a large %%% of people here are self reliant and already know how to grow food and such as opposed to living in NYC and becoming a dumpster diver if this makes any sense.
feeding yourself and your family is the level where civility will break down and true chaos will happen
meaning if normal people come to a point where they cannot feed themselves OR their family.. they will resort to doing things they would not do before.
this will NOT happen here. food is abundant, there is NO extreme hot or cold climate, and the soil here is fertile
[quote=”camby”][quote=”watchdog”]I’m Canadian (Victoria, B.C.), Natuarlized as a Costa Rican (carry two passports) and have lived in Costa Rica for over fourteen years. Any such remarks, or inuendo as you suggest, are, in my opinion, based soley in envy and jealously. In a sense, if you’ve successfully made the move to Costa Rica, or the like, you are living a dream that few of your countrymen are able to achieve, for one reason, or another. It takes “guts” to make the move initially and even more “guts” to make the cultural compromises required to sustain it. If you’ve done it, be proud of yourself and consider yourself lucky enough that you were able to enrich your life with the experience, that many of your disgruntled countrymen wished they could have as well.[/quote]
Well put….envy/jealousy is a part, but the arrogance of, especially in Americans, that there is no better nor more superior place in the world and heck, then, why leave…[/quote]
it’s not jealousy it’s ignorance. which is OK.. let the ignorant live thier lives
[quote=”sprite”]Being no expert on the subject I have to pick and choose those to whom I will listen for advice. I buy a little silver I buy a little stored food. I keep 1000 rounds of ammo on hand and I go to the target range every month. And even though it appears that collapse is a mathematical inevitability, The best thing that I can do for myself is to maintain hope that this does not happen anytime soon.[/quote]
sprite
so your a prepper LOL :D:D
I agree with what your saying.
gold and silver is a nice benefit to have but there are much more important things.
like the skillset needed to live in the changing times
it would be good to learn and master growing food, building alternative energy systems.. carpentry, electricity.. etc
because when the shit hits the fan.. all those people with gold and silver will be paying you to help them start a new life
Victoria
to put on a happy face is what I do all the time. I am a great neighbor. friendly BUT not familiar if you understand what I mean.
i am independent and never cross the line with people and respect them as I want to be respected.
you could be a homosexual, a sex addict a drunk a white black asian or even an [b]OBAMA lover[/b][size=200][/size] LOL :shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:
whatever is fine and I respect your space as long as you respect mine.
I find we as americans once we get a little friendly with people we expect them to be loyal friends and such and I have seen to many relational problems arise from this.
I often ask my wife what the neighbors think of me
and always the same
very serious. :D:D:D:D
which is fine this way no one starts to feel too comfortable in asking me for money or anything that I have to say no.
her family knows me to be the same.
I have a neigbor who is canadian couple. they have lived next to me for almost 2 years
we wave and say hi when we see each other but we don’t stop by for cookies and milk whenever the feeling arises.
one of them got into an accident.. and they called me.. and I dropped everything and took them to the hospital and stayed with them for 3 days until the felt comfortable going back.
I am the best person to know in your life and I would consider you extremely lucky to know me
why??
because in a moment of crisis I will be there. no words BUT action non of this silly small talk
action!!!!!
my word is my bond that is how I live
I often explain to my kids that I think it would be best in life if everyone could NOT speak
and we judged them by what they did not what they say
I am teaching mi kids to understand that words are only support for actions and to always keep an eye out for discrepancys between the 2.
for example. if I told my kids that don’t smoke its bad for you and such etc.. and here I am smoking.. their antenna should go up..
americans have mastered the art of bullshit!!!
oh yea I will be there tomorrow.. oh yea I will pay you back on monday, oh yea I will make sure this is taken care of and that is taken care of…oh yea..
it’s like the politicians..
here is a photo op that Mr O took with this woman.. I remember it so well.. because you actually have people that believe these ignorant bureaucrats
and I knew it was just that a photo op and knew nothing would ever get done. it’s examples like these that make me sick that I never have the sound on any longer just watch.
sorry for the ramble
[quote=”VictoriaLST”][quote=”maravilla”]they don’t like us in the first place, so if they can blame us for anything, they will!![/quote]
Is the “they” here Costa Ricans?? Where do you live?? Up here by the lake, everyone has been welcoming. Perhaps we just don’t act like gringos? In our first nine months, we have attended 3 local gatherings, 2 Tica baby showers, had dinner with locals in their homes….if they don’t like us, would that be happening? Are they pretending to be nice so they can rob us? OMG that must be it! Quick, lock the house!
Ok just a little hyperbole there. Once you get through all this ‘gringo’ ‘tico’ stuff, it is who you are, not where you are from.
[/quote]
Victoria
let me ask yo a question.
if you have never been robbed. would that mean there is no crime???
we all live in this bubble of life
which is a good thing by the way if it makes you happy and you pursue your passions
but being also aware of whats going on around is also good as this gives you the ability to make rational decisions.
your success in your interactions with ticos here are based on alot of factors. where you live, your ability to communicate in the language, your ability to re evaluate your assumptions and be open and friendly.
a whole bunch of nuances that you may not even be aware of or somone in similiar situations may not have those life experiences that enable them to adapt.
me personally. I don’t like people
and if I had my way I would avoid people since they are a big pain in then ass.
BUT
I also understand that nothing gets done without people SO I adapt and put on my happy “hey!!! how’s your coin collection”face on .:D:D:D:D
