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[quote=”aguirrewar”]My house in CR is SMACK down in San Jose, 200 meters from Parque de La Paz, 4 kilometers from the center of San Jose and you can walk to the center of SJ and the house is 900 sq. feet
My other house in Florida is 3,000 sq. feet but I enjoy the house in CR more than the one in FL
is there crime?? YES, big time but we live in a semi gated community, you go in one way and leave the same way
the only GRINGO in this community is ME!!!! but we have a strong neighborhood alliance
out of 28 houses all and everyone knows each other be that the pets, children, cars, husbands and wifes
one thing that is funny to a point is that the owner of the “U” shaped housing project where I have my house has more fire arms than the NRA and is not afraid to discharge them at 1:00 AM in the morning and better than an alarm in each house, just in case someone has some ideas to come and think he will “STEAL” something
So much for the thought of a GATED community[/quote]
Your at it again Karl Marx?
AH, I love my gated community soooooooo much. Golf,Beach,Country Club,Wet and Dry Sauna,Hugh Jacuzzi, No Crime, I really hate myself for living there but the best part is NO SPRITE![quote=”sprite”][quote=”Ione”][quote=”sprite”]A gated community is one which is relatively secured and segregated from the surrounding social structure. But I refer more to the gated mindset than the gated physical barrier. Segregation from the community is, by definition, a rejection and repudiation of that community. It marks the resident as an outsider.
A gated community is a statement by the residents to the surrounding, outside community. The essence of the social contract is based on trust and fair distribution of community wealth. This contract is broken by the gated statement “I have more than the rest of you and I do not trust the rest of you and I feel the need to be guarded and have my property protected from you.” Anyone who thinks about this for even a moment must see the insult.
A gated community is also physical evidence of an income gap within a society and that is never healthy. Gated communities are a sign of an infection in the society.[/quote]
WOW SPRITE::::: You really do have a warped idea of gated communities,Gringos and Ticos alike. Just found this thread and can’t believe the great divide here and the ignorance. I am going to keep this very short but we have lived here for over 18 years now, have lived in various areas of the country and guess what, there are more gated communities throughout this country than in most other countries. And by the way, a very high percentage of them are inhabited Tico or Latino residents. Also, not to mention, the millions of homes with bars on them (mostly out of the gated communities but found in both.) We are fortunate enough to enjoy both the ex pat and the Tico/Latino communities and we wouldn’t change a thing! Hope you get a better attitude soon. Good Luck.[/quote]
If Costa Rica has more gated communities than other places, that is not a good thing. It means there is a substantial income stratification within the population and this is is a sign of social ill health. Those countries and cultures which are the most innovative, successful and peaceful are those which have the most even distribution of wealth among its people.
I don’t believe I need an attitude adjustment. I think I have a pretty good handle on this matter. Perhaps you are unaware of your own attitudes. You did not specify why you prefer a gated community. If you disagree with my assessment, then tell me what is the main advantage of a gated community for you and why this is a good thing for Costa Rica.[/quote]
Gee Karl Marx, I should feel guilty because I can afford to live in a gated community? I will move out of my gated community when I can call the police and get a timely response.
Main advantage to gated community? not having to worry about home invasions, car theft, vandalism, gang rapes,murder and of course nice bar and pool area,generous pour on the cocktails,happy hour wednesday to friday, jacuzzi,wet and dry sauna, golf course,shall I continue? Ah the horrors of gated living. I hate myself.
Personally I think its a great thing for costa rica or any country.It gives a sense of security to people who perhaps are not able to defend themselves. i have a wife a 2 daughters and i travel a lot out of the country and dont want to worry about their safety when i am gone. do i need to recite recent examples of crimes? As a matter of fact, we have had 2 families move into our communithy recently due to them being victimized.when we can alll livee in peace and harmony and there is no crime, than I will move out of my gated community.
p.s. sometimes I actually leave my gated community to mingle with people such as yourself!!!!but only with an armed convey and my glock. LOL!
[quote=”sprite”][quote=”diesels12″]
I know i said i would not reply but are you insane? MY CONSPIRACY THEORIES? I am obviously dealing with an intellectually inferior mind. NAME 1 CONSPIRACY THEORY I HAVE DISCUSSED IN THIS FORUM, JUST 1. Your the one with the obvious conspiracy theories. This is really no longer challenging for me but i had to reply to your idiotic post. You need to be reeducated my friend. You obviously have nothing to bring to the table here and it baffles me why you even post. Why don’t you, Scott and Miravilla go hold hands and sing Kumbaya together. You guys deserve each other.[/quote]Tsk tsk tsk…you seem a little touchy when anyone opposes your far out conspiracy theories regarding America the Beautiful. This is not the way to behave in well mannered, adult society. Stomping your feet, throwing a tantrum and turning a polite discussion into personal attacks tends to pollute the atmosphere and detour the exchange of ideas.
How about I turn the tables on that right wing sentiment and offer you a variation on an old conservative saying from the 60’s: “Costa Rica, love it or leave it!”[/quote]
Once again, name ONE conspiracy theory i ever stated. why dont you google “conspiracy theory” and look up the meaning of the word. Its frustrating to have a discussion with someone who speaks nonsense.
As for your last sentence, I don’t get it. You want me to leave Costa Rica because I dont buy into your bullshit?
What is also apparent is the owner of this forum is alienating a large portion of the clientele of this website with his bizarre political views and the USA bashing. I would venture to say most of the people who read this site are Americans and there can be no upside to constantly demeaning the USA. It will also drive people away from the site as I am sure most of the members do not log on to hear Scotts theories on the evils of the USA. This would be unfortunate as the site benefits from having multiple points of view on things concerning COSTA RICA.
I too am also disgusted by the “sugar coating” of the problems that exist in Costa Rica and it is obvious a lot of people hear are in denial over the current situation here in Costa Rica. Whenever one brings up an issue concerning COsta Rica, it quickly becomes a bash USA topic. Why can’t we intelligently discuss Costa Rica ( the good and the bad) without bad mouthing the USA? I don’t get it.
Its almost like they are trying to convince themselves they made the right decision to move here by demonizing the USA constantly.[quote=”sprite”][quote=”diesels12″]
You are a hopeless case sprite. Your conspiracy theories are laughable at best. You don’t get it and never will get it, so I am not going to waste my time replying to your postings anymore. We are going around in circles here and it is obvious you cannot be helped.[/quote]
I am also laughing at your ridiculous world view. I am unsure you are even being serious or just trying to be provocative with your silly conspiracy theories. Either way, I don’t contribute here for your benefit. I do it because I have a knee jerk reaction to address lies, confusion and ignorance. I can’t help it sometimes. I usually bow out at this point as well because once the responses turn into personal attacks and criticisms for lack of a good argument, the discussion has lost its value.[/quote]
I know i said i would not reply but are you insane? MY CONSPIRACY THEORIES? I am obviously dealing with an intellectually inferior mind. NAME 1 CONSPIRACY THEORY I HAVE DISCUSSED IN THIS FORUM, JUST 1. Your the one with the obvious conspiracy theories. This is really no longer challenging for me but i had to reply to your idiotic post. You need to be reeducated my friend. You obviously have nothing to bring to the table here and it baffles me why you even post. Why don’t you, Scott and Miravilla go hold hands and sing Kumbaya together. You guys deserve each other.
[quote=”Scott”]No! We’re not enlightened at all diesels12…
We are enlightened as to your state (?) of mind but not the facts…
1. The statement about 1/2 million dead wasn’t mine, it was on a ’60 Minutes’ television program with Madeline Korbelová Albright who – you might notice – did not dispute the number.
2. I cannot honestly believe that you wrote this: “I believe Iraq is a better place now because of it and I also feel they are indebted to us for giving them their freedom. Our soldiers who gave their lives over there did not die in vain, millions of Iraqis are living a beeter life now because of their sacrifice. ”
And you call me “naive”?
O-M-G!
You have to kidding me! Pulling my chain or whatever it is but if you seriously believe this then our little planet is in a helluva lot worse shape than I thought.
3. Your WHO study refers to: “A large national household survey conducted by the Iraqi government and WHO estimates that 151 000 Iraqis died from violence between March 2003 and June 2006.”
Today is the 20th October 2011 more than four years later.
So let’s assume that those laughably low numbers are correct diesels12.
If we project those numbers out until June 2011 we’ve seen – at the very least – another 50,000 per year die for a total of 400,000 DEAD.
These are your numbers!
And you believe that the invasion of Iraq – which has been conclusively proven to be based on total lies – killing at least 400,000 Iraqis is worth it because “millions of Iraqis are living a beeter life now because of their sacrifice.”
??
Scott
PS. There are other studies… A 2006 study released by researchers from the Bloomberg School of Public Health at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore concludes that more than 600,000 Iraqis have died by violence since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003
[ http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2006-10-10-iraq-dead_x.htm ][/quote]
just because 60 minutes said it does not make it fact Scott! You take a 30 second sound bite from a liberal news show to make your point? You should know better than that.
as far as the study, the last couple of years had no where near the deaths as prior years so your 400k figure is still high. There are other studies out there ( an AP study says only 110,600 were killed during the whole conflict) but nobody really knows the true death toll. Lets use your #s of 400,000 for arguments sake though. WE did not kill 400,00 people though, we killed a fraction of that number and the rest can be attributed to suicide bombings and religious zealots killing each other.
I stand by all the statements I made and I am sorry it does not agree with your world view but i am not as enlightened as you are. Quite frankly I don’t think this type of discussion belongs on this website. I have been a member here for a long time ,7 years at least maybe more, and its disappointing to see it used as a mouthpiece for your warped political views. Hopefully we can get back to discussing costa rica. I have gained a lot of valuable info on this site.
[quote=”sprite”]Most of the world’s governments are run by banking cartel puppets. They are all gangsters, including our own, especially our own. When any of these gangsters try to get off the reservation by insisting on dumping world bank policy or insist on using an unapproved currency, the United Nations, (of which the World Health Org belongs) via the US, steps in and assassinates the leader and destroys the country militarily, such as in Iraq’s case, or financially.
Saddam decided to do his oil business in Euros, a currency NOT approved for oil business, and that, along with a slew of other murderous, strategic reasons, was an invitation to invade and occupy.
Regarding the stupid statement that Iraq is better off for our war against it and our current occupation of it; I really don’t know what to say. The bleeding, dismembered children in the videos I have watched are an indictment of anyone who supports the outcome of this war. And the ignorance in the face of such evidence is incredible.
Iran is next. The too-big-to-fail banks are beginning to fail and they need another war. Apparently, the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Lybia are not doing the trick. Since this is the biggest economic melt down in history, they need the biggest war in history. Get prepared.[/quote]
You are a hopeless case sprite. Your conspiracy theories are laughable at best. You don’t get it and never will get it, so I am not going to waste my time replying to your postings anymore. We are going around in circles here and it is obvious you cannot be helped.
[quote=”Scott”]This is becoming mildly amusing …
So please enlighten us diesels12 by helping us get “our facts straight” and tell us how many deaths in Iraq the US is responsible for…
And of course give us your sources.
By all means include the deaths of patriotic U.S. servicemen as a well as the innocent men, women, children and babies in Iraq…
And please do confirm if you’re of the same opinion as Madeline Korbelová Albright (former US Secretary of State and clearly Satan’s whore) who stated quite categorically that: “We think the price is worth it …” when asked if “half a million (DEAD) children” was worthy …
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Scott
I know you want to blame every evil deed in the world on the US but we are no way responsible for the pre war deaths caused by Saddams refusal to abide by the UN sanctions. Yes Scott, UNITED NATIONS not UNITED STATES sanctions and at the end of the day its SADDAM who starved his country and denied them medicines. Are you that blind to reality? My God man, wake up.You can’t be that naive.
[quote=”Scott”]This is becoming mildly amusing …
So please enlighten us diesels12 by helping us get “our facts straight” and tell us how many deaths in Iraq the US is responsible for…
And of course give us your sources.
By all means include the deaths of patriotic U.S. servicemen as a well as the innocent men, women, children and babies in Iraq…
And please do confirm if you’re of the same opinion as Madeline Korbelová Albright (former US Secretary of State and clearly Satan’s whore) who stated quite categorically that: “We think the price is worth it …” when asked if “half a million (DEAD) children” was worthy …
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here you go scott http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2008/pr02/en/index.html
Its the World Health Organization, not some left wing biased media outlet so I would think its credible. Your 1/2 million dead children statement is a total joke and you really lost all credibility by making that statement.
Personally, I did not agree with the Iraq war because I felt it was a waste of resources and $$$$ that could have been put to better use elsewhere. That being said, I believe Iraq is a better place now because of it and I also feel they are indebted to us for giving them their freedom. Our soldiers who gave their lives over there did not die in vain, millions of Iraqis are living a beeter life now because of their sacrifice. In fact, without the Iraqi war we would not have had the Arab Spring which enabled millions more Arabs to enjoy freedom such as Tinisia, Egypt,Libya and hopefully soon to be Syria. GOD BLESS AMERICA!CONSIDER YOURSELF ENLIGHTENED!
[quote=”maravilla”]sooooo you don’t have a problem with our invading Iraq and being responsible for the deaths of a million people all because GWB and his other war criminal friends lied to the US about WMDs? hmmmmm. very telling. very telling indeed. as for vietnam, you need to know the back story and all the lies that were told to justify the bombings. oh, it’s so sad what we’ve done. makes me ashamed to be an american, killing all those innocent people all over the world and lying to the public who then thinks they know what really happened and are proud of the war. oh well.[/quote]
Actually I have no problem at all with taking out a coorupt,insane, sadistical dictator.Get your facts straight before you blame the US for the deaths of a million people in Iraq. The fact is that no where near that amount of people were killed in Iraq and most of the ones that did die were killed by other Iraqis, not the US.
If your so ashamed to be an american than why do you continue to be one? Renounce your citizenship and become a citizen of Costa Rica, simple. Why associate yourself with such a wicked country?Go buy a Noam Chomsky book, you will love him. Thanks for enlightening me on the evils of the US Miravilla. You have truly opened my eyes. Those poor innocent Japanese in WWII, those peaceful Afghans, Vietnamese,Iraqis, brutally surpressed by the evil US.How about those fun loving Muslim extremists who we hunt down and kill, horrible isn’t it. I guess we truly are as our loving amigos the Iranians say “THE GREAT SATAN”. I am turning in my passport and renouncing my citizenship first thing in the AM. Why don’t you do the same Miravilla,Sprite and the rest of my new friends.
cheers
JohnYou seem like a reasonable persons and I understand your frustrations with the US. I am just saying its not all that bad, there is a lot of good we do also and in my opinion it outweighs the bad. I realize the US is not perfect and I am not rah rah rah all the time (if it was so great I would still be living there LOL) but there is no place else in the world so full of opportunities for people like myself who did not come from wealthy families. I actually think that is probably the big difference between Latin America and the US, the opportunity to succeed for someone who comes from anunderprivileged backround. In fact a lot (NOT ALL)of the Ticos I talk to would like to go to the US for the opportunities there. It is VERY difficult to be succesfull in Latin America when you are not born to the right family or are poor and please don’t dispute that.
As for our bet, I look forward to it and maybe we can make an event out of it for our forum members. I will bring the booze and you bring the food! There will be no losers as the charity will benefit.
CHEERS
JOHN[quote=”maravilla”]talk about blanket statements — “most of them would move to the US”– none of the Ticos i know want to live in the US. they think it is a screwed up place if there ever was one. as for anti-american sentiment, it’s there, you just aren’t aware of it, but how could it NOT be there after what the US did in Central America? i can only glean from your comments about how much good the US has done in the world that you haven’t a clue about what we did here or for how long we did it. check this out: http://www.neotropica.info — read The Banana Chronicles. then get back to me after you have a clue.[/quote]
Ok Maravilla, when is the last time you went to the US embassy in San Jose? Did you see the line outside wrapping around the block?
As for your statement “none of the the Ticos I know want to live in the US”, either you don’t know many Ticos or your friends are not able to obtain visas so they are bitter.
To prove my point, If you are so confident in your statements, why don’t we do an experiment, if you like I would even be willing to place a wager of $1000 or more if you want (winner to donate proceeds to Costa RIcan charity), if not we can do it just for fun. Here it is, pick any street corner in San Jose or Liberia and we will have a non biased observer interview Ticos and question them about there feelings towards the US and would they go there if given the opportunity ( I will even pay for the non biased observer). We can do a sample group of 100 random people and I can guarantee you a majority will have positive feelings towards the US and will want to go there. Put your money where your mouth is. I will meet you anywhere, anytime to do this schedule permitting. I am free from Nov 4 to Dec. 14 2011 and than anytime after Jan. 11 2012 ( I am travelling currently in the lovely USA). I live in Guanacaste but will travel anywhere to do this.
Sorry to upset you with the rah rah rah business but it happens to be the truth. I don’t know why you are in denial over this but I don’t think there are too many countries in the history of the world that has done more to benefit mankind than the USA. Along the way we have made some mistakes but nobody is perfect. If you think you can do a better job than run for elected office.
As for latin americans not trusting the USA or its citizens, thats a blanket statement that is not supported by fact my friend. In my travels throughout Latin America (All of south America and Central America) I have rarely encountered anti amercian attitudes and I don’t stay in resorts or 5 star hotels in a protected environment. In fact if they so mistrust us than why would most of them move to the USA if given the opportunity?
As for your Intel employee working in the states, there is NO WAY she is getting paid $800 a month to relocate to the USA, that’s fantasy and is below minimum wage standards.
