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“Please,don’t get me wrong. There’s no doubt the investment potential is there- a “buyers” market exists that may likely get even better- at least in some respects.”
Interesting…. a buyers market.
Please, just learn the difference between you’re and your, and then and than (this applies to nearly everyone here) and this will make up for all the misspellings.
Scott: “The “affordability” of real estate for people earning the average wage is a problem in the US, the UK (where the ‘average’ home is now $393,000) and many other countries, Costo Rico is no different.”
Genn789: “Don’t compare Costo Rico with the US or UK, Costa Rica is escaping from its label “third-world-country”. Changes will need more then one decade.”
Actually, it is different, it is different in many ways.
For one, since you are talking about people “earning the average wage” so guess you are talking about “people who work” in order to buy a home versus people who have cold hard cash… the difference is financing, financing for “people who work” is readily available in countries such as the USA and UK so it is tough to compare since Costo Ricians more often than not have to pay cash, a lump sum for their home.
Compare Costo Rico with Mexico, Pamana, Brazil, Peru, but it just isn’t a fair comparison with the UK or USA.
Even “people who work” to pay for their homes in the USA and the UK, if it is financed, can’t buy in Costa Rica, because without financing, they are just like the Ticos, got to be able to produce the hard cash.
There are tons more reasons to stop comparing CR with the UK and the USA, to many to list really, it just isn’t an apples to apples comparison. Far too many differences.
Costo Rico… just messing with you!
You don’t need an agent, you need a lawyer, 2 lawyers like I said on another post.
In the USA, you want an agent, because he/she will negoiate for you and explain all the paperwork to you. They are trained professionals in the USA so even when they aren’t the best at customer service (some are better than others in this area) all of them who work fulltime in the industry will be able to assist you quite well.
In Costa Rica anyone and everyone can be an agent – you are an agent when you say you are an agent. You can’t trust 99% of these people and for those you can trust, you don’t need them.
You need a lawyer… 2 lawyers both of which were referred by someone. Never deal with strangers, especially strangers who are lawyers.
Do you know spanish – I think all the paperwork will be in Spanish so I’m not sure how you check it.
This issue is huge in the USA. Latinos buy houses, but they don’t know what they are signing, they have to trust since the paperwork is in english. They get ripped off when they buy a house, it is worse than dealing with car salespeople because there is a lot more that can be hidden in a mortgage.
I’m saying that I wish they would leave quietly if they think there are problems, because to be barking while running away is a bit lame and cowardly to me. Many of you won’t ever live in Costa Rica and for the minority that does, they will be heading back in less than 2 years for whatever reason (many different reasons). On there way out the door, some know they could very well be back, some don’t want to but have to, there are many situations, but many will be back.
Don’t buy a house in Costa Rica, RENT! It takes little effort to buy. Once you arrive and while renting, pay attention to the amount of time houses are on the market in Costa Rica and remember that if the For Sale sign disappears, it doesn’t mean sold, it likely means they gave up trying to sell. BE CAREFUL because there are some who will promote CR because it is in their best interest. If the market is bad in the USA, it has to be many times worse in a country that has no MLS. BE CAREFUL people – RENT is a wonderful 4 letter word!
Although I can’t write so that I cover every angle of how I feel and what I mean, I think a lot of people now understand the basics of what I’m talking about.
I believe most people relocate for factors unrelated to politics and so I wish the focus was not on politics when describing why you are leaving America. This crap about getting out because of TSA or the current administration is shortsighted to me, because America will get passes all of this in years to come so there is no reason to leave with regard to short term politics.
I will leave America, but it is more about getting away from the “franchises” in America, the cookie cutter everything. I don’t want to see a McDonalds or a Home Depot or a Sears or a Macys or a Kmart. I want to experience the unusual. I love getting out of my comfort zone. America will always be great to me and quite honestly nothing is better than America to me, but I just want a different experience, it is as simple as that for me. I wish others could describe their reason for relocating in as simple terms.
I live 30 miles from San Francisco and many of our buses are electric and so is our light rail and so it our mass transit system. I live in one of the most beautiful areas in the world – it is absolutely unmatched.
Useless – I’ve already defined my definition of useless. Go to Costa Rica, have fun, but please just go silently if you are not going to stay around to help in any way. I agree with you, why not just leave? Why slam her on your way out as if where you are going is better, because I know without a doubt that Costa Rica is not better than the USA.
As for smoke and tailpipes – I rarely see a truck, bus or car driving down the road in the USA trailing a stream of black smoke yet I see this in Costa Rica quite often. If you are in denial, you won’t see it the first 2 years while living in Costa Rica.
I agree Lotus, Costa Rica has some nice things to offer, but the USA has more so I don’t get it when people bash the USA on their way out. Have you ever been to Yosemite National Park, there is nothing as beautiful in Costa Rica, have you ever been to the Northeast around late October when the tress are turning colors, Costa Rica has nothing like it, have you ever been to Lake Tahoe, Costa Rica has nothing like it, have you ever been to Pike Peak outside of Colorado Springs, Costa Rica has nothing like it.
You mentioned that SJ is smelly, but outside of SJ, it isn’t so bad. Well, LA is close to smelly and outside of LA it isn’t so bad either.
Amazing wildlife in CR – same exists in the USA.
Beautiful sunsets – same exists in the USA.
Clean humid air – same exists in the USA.Useless? I mean while in CR, it is all about you. You aren’t improving the world any (yet most here want to complain about it). Sorry, but too bad you didn’t say that you were volunteering your time to help your community in some way. Reading, socializing, surf, hike, yoga, laying in the hammock – useless (just my opinion). WOW and sorry again, I’m not trying to be mean but you are looking to do this fulltime? You might want to add some selfless activities to your schedule.
I agree Ticos do love their country – what choice do they have really? With Panama and Nicaragua above and below them, they may as well stay put.
And then you say, so what if someone slams the USA. I called Costa Rica a piece of crap and Scott defines this as name calling so if this can upset him then I can get upset when people slam the USA. Fair enough?
This is too generalized and really immature in my opinion: “but most of the politicians, industrialists, bankers etc…would probably prefer a dictatorship…seems the constitution and bill of rights is an inconvienece to them.” I just don’t see it this way – not even a little bit. We still have our courts to judge what is right and wrong based on that piece of 200 year old paper that has lasted longer than any other. Sure these things take time, but that is just due process. Do you think the politicans, industrialists, banker etc. are any different in Costa Rica where the courts are a joke and the last 3 (I think) presidents served time?
Just chill? That is what I wish people would do when they go to Costa Rica – just chill which means just because you are leaving doesn’t mean you should be slamming the very country that gave you the opportunity to leave. Tell Maravilla and the Nuclear dude (can’t remember his handle) to chill.
I know America isn’t perfect – nothing is perfect so I’m not sure why anyone expects perfection. Costa Rica is far less perfect so I can’t see how anyone in their right mind can slam the USA in favor of Costa Rica. Refer to the top of this post – Costa Rica has no Yosemite, no arctic national wildlife refuge (Alaska), no Hawaii, no Rocky Mountains, no Grand Canyon, no Yellowstone, and the list goes on and on. America is beautiful – more beautiful, in some places, unmatched beauty!
There is backcountry in America, if you want peace and quiet so to lay uselessly in a hammock reading, there’s a million different places to do this in America.
Maravilla, don’t tell me we don’t put politicans in jail:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070119/ts_nm/usa_corruption_ney_dcAlso Maravilla, I bet you were one of the ones that said the Bush admin wouldn’t get all the leaders at Enron and even though they slowly climbed the corporate ladder all the way to the top, they sent a lot of people to jail, you probably in some way still are not satisfied. Just as Ney going to jail doesn’t satisfy you. Nothing is ever good enough, but of course Costa Rica is great.
Yeah, and what’s this have to do with Real Estate, Living and Retirement in Costa Rica? Am I on the right site here? Did someone hijack welovecostarica.com’s URL?
Plenty of political speak here: http://forums.craigslist.org/?forumID=20 have fun!
“My reasons for loving Costa Rica are not the same as everyone elses. They cannot possibly be. We are all different. I can only tell you I love Costa Rica for its people first. The way they act and have treated me, their family structure and humble attitude that has endeared them to me. The country’s natural beauty and the relaxed feeling I get while being there is also high on my list. There are numerous other reasons which I will not get into now.”
Can you speak spanish? If you can’t speak spanish, you don’t know the people of Costa Rica. As written on here before, they’ll treat you fine until they realize they have nothing to gain from talking to you.
People in Costa Rica are absolutely no more special than others in the world. Maybe the fact that most and I really mean most would rob you blind in a second should tell you something. Why do we Americans need 2 lawyers in Costa Rica, because even the lawyers might help rip us off behind the scenes so you need 1 lawyer to watch the other lawyer. If they are so special, it would be more worry free in Costa Rica, but it isn’t a worry free country, no way, no how.
Our country over 51 years over 100 years has been all over the place yet we continue to get back to the middle which the last election was all about. There is nothing to worry about, the American people are the smartest and most fair in the world so when things go too far to the left or the right, we act to bring things back to the middle, give it time, that’s all it takes.
I’m a conservative too, but I wouldn’t want the repubs to rule for 50 years and I wouldn’t want the dems to rule for 50 years. I like the middle so I welcome the dems to power, because when they come to power they pull us back to the middle and then with enough time, too far to the left so what happens then? The America people sense this and give power to the repubs so back to the middle we go, but give them enough time and we’ll be too far to the right…. on and on again. This is us over time.
I can handle not calling people names, but calling Costa Rica a piece of crap seems a bit too strict. I honesty thought that the whole reason around going to Costa Rica was generally to lead comfortable and useless lives Scott. I mean, many people are moving there to just chill out so although “useless” is blunt, it isn’t far from the truth. Take a look at “useful” and its meaning – I just don’t see what Americans overall are doing in Costa Rica is “useful” so “useless” seems fiting. To be fair, if I lived there, especially in retirement, I would certainly be leading a useless life.
Funny, you guys ignore the truths in my posts… the smoking buses, the awful sidewalks, worrying about those great people in Costa Rica from robbing you blind and simple little things like cars, imagine that, having the right of way. How about those wonderful potholes in CR and those ragtag bridges with boards missing on major roadways – great country, great government! I could add more to this list, but what’s the use, you guys know deep down that Costa Rica isn’t so great, but instead a place you can escape to.
You paid no attention to what I said about 200 GREAT years which shows you would rather deflect what I say by talking about violating policy instead of addressing the truth about the USA. The USA is great! An Indian who I work with could live in Indian with a driver, maid, etc., but where does he choose to work and live… you got it, not Costa Rica, not India, the USA. There are countless examples of this behavior – millions times more than those that are renouncing their citizenship (still waiting on those numbers Scott…. Maravilla basically validated what I said).
Mexico is a nice place too for Americans, but look how many Mexicans are in the USA… if only Costa Rica were closer, they would be here too. Even rich Mexicans choose to live in the USA – wonder why, is it because the USA is GREAT?
Maravilla – when you renounce your citizenship, let us know, because otherwise you aren’t saying a lot by saying “you could.” I “could” be president of the USA, but saying I could doesn’t mean a lot now does it?
Why is polical speak allowed on this website anyway? I’ve seen it before, see it now, isn’t real estate and “moving to Costa Rica” speak enough to make this website interesting? By allowing political speak, you are simply asking for trouble. Funny, when people talk about the USA in a negative way, you jump to agree Scott, yet when someone defends her, you want to shut them down with “calling Costa Rica a piece of crap” is a violation of my terms. I have a feeling you’d welcome someone saying that the USA is a piece of crap. The USA isn’t the greatest country in the world, but in many ways, it is one of the greatest country’s in the world (only a few countries are in this category). No matter what people say here and no matter our short term challenges, I’ll never think poorly of America the beautiful.
If you want to talk to me, make an appointment!
I call it as I see it – crybabies is very fiting.
I can speak comfortably about other topics without losing my cool, but all this crap about the USA is short term thinking. We have over 200 very good years and no country gets to this point without being GREAT so all the doomsday talk is just stupid in my opinion. Things in the USA are in very good shape regardless of what is happening in Iraq and regardless of your inconvenience when passing through security at the airport. Doesn’t the police at airports in Europe carry machine guns? Judging what is happening in the short term as if it has been happening for decades is unfair. It isn’t about the extremes, it is about the middle and we’ve corrected the extremes over and over again over the CENTURIES, What is happening now won’t go on forever so there is no reason to LEAVE the USA for what is happening now in the SHORT TERM. Our long term future rests in the middle.
Okay, so maybe you can supply some numbers about the number of people renouncing their US citizenship? As you look for these numbers, I’ll look for the supporting documentation about expats returning home after 2 years.
Costa Rica is a piece of crap when compared to the USA yet I realize that as a result of your US citizenship (not you Scott) people can lead very comfortable and useless lives in Costa Rica.
Maravilla – please renounce your citizenship!
