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Scott wrote:
“There are probably a lot more white Muslims than you think … Even Muslims with blond hair and blue eyes.Congressional terrorism expert Yossef Bodansky says there are many blond, blue-eyed Slavs among these Bosnian Islamists, and there were “thousands trained by the mujahedin and a lot of them eventually joined the international brigades.”
How many Christian, Hindu and Jewish extremists are there out there? Anybody know?”
I can’t answer on numbers Scott but I watched a portion of a report on CNN tonight, they were covering violence in the West Bank, interviewing Israeli extremists who were willing to kill Palestinian women and children to further settlement expansion there.
My next door neighbor is an Iraqi native, he went missing for two weeks after Sept. 11. When he finally came home I asked where he’d been. “My family all traveled to my uncle’s house.” These folks are all hard working productive US citizens, who were afraid for their safety, scared to death, hiding.
Where does it stop—?
We create our enemies by our actions, if we want to be free and safe it will be through our actions.
So far, we aren’t winning many friends.
Most unfortunately are individuals like Kenneth. Now Ken, this is an observation not a personal attack but your comments answering Scotts reply are about the most bigoted words yet to appear in this thread. Osama Mart? Mister, you are a disgrace, I won’t be back to this thread—it has turned in a disgusting direction that I refuse to participate in any further.
ed f
Now Kenneth, there’s a statement I can wholeheartedly agree with. If we allow ourselves to be divided, we will in fact be conquered—-then we’ll become our own worst enemies.
Kenneth,
I agree, personal attacks are nonproductive in extending meaningful dialog.In answer to the nose butting question, look north to Nicaragua. Our propping up the dictator there resulted in war. Yanqui go home sound familiar? Mining harbors, running drugs for profit to buy arms, Iran Contra.
Iran, remember the Shah? Didn’t we prop him up?
Saddam in Iraq, didn’t we prop him up too?
Is it any wonder so many hate the US.I love my country, strongly.
Kenneth (1st post in thread)
“This is not complicated. There are millions of people in the world who hate the United States and want to kill all of its citizens – Including women, children, the elderly and the sick. Some of you may even recall something that happened 7 years ago on September 11 in New York. Although extremely unconventional, we are indeed in a war. Wars have evolved throughout history and we’re currently watching the next phase of the evolution. I’m sorry, but our enemies no longer wear bright red coats and line up in fields to attack.I’m not sure who “these people” are, but might they include Nancy Pelosi? Herry Reid? Dick Durbin? John Edwards? Hillary Clinton?”
It appears you’ve accused the five above named individuals of being enemies of the US, speculating they “want to kill all its citizens”.
That’s a strong statement that I found disturbing. Personal attacks, though once removed.
Kenneth (cont.)
“I voted for “GWB.” Twice! Am I delusional? No. The first time around our choice was President Bush or Al Gore who said that the internal combustion engine is “a mortal threat . . . more deadly than that of any military enemy.””Al Gore’s words used again him here, in a very sarcastic statement. Gore lost as a result of the process being manipulated, but went on to win a Nobel Prize for his work ridiculed above. Disturbing.
Kenneth (cont.)
“Conservative principles are what the United States was built upon. They made us strong. They made us successful. They made us a world power.”I could agree with everything in this statement except the first word, which makes false the remainder unfortunately.
Kenneth (cont.)
“They are being slowly chipped away”I agree with this point but for different reasons than Kenneth.
I believe torture is immoral, that lying is immoral, that ruining the environment is immoral, that subjugating others to their detriment for our benefit is immoral; strongly.Now, the personal freedom of US citizens is being chipped away. Very disturbing.
You don’t appreciate my sarcasm, my use of your words against you, perceiving these as personal attacks yet you had no problem doing both in your first post, against those not here to defend themselves.
Not that I’m even remotely deserving of comparison—-contemporary reports of Patrick Henry were that he was not well liked, a firebrand, but he is well regarded today as one with the courage to speak up.
As Patrick Henry and I share courage to speak, Kenneth you and I share sarcasm, and using other’s words against them.
My mom used to say “don’t dish what you can’t take.”
So Sprite, I’m afraid Kenneth may actually be as guilty as I.
But no absolution can be found in the sins of others.
On the personal attacks of Kenneth I am guilty.I apologize to everyone offended, starting with Kenneth.
ed f
a long dead person did not write, but someone wrote “The liberals, the tree-huggers, the Earth-worshippers,”
Wake up, you’re in Costa Rica.
Earth worship is a laudable quality, one even fundementalist Christians are beginning to embrace.ed f
“Still I see lots of people who learn the hard way after being tempted by a savings of $2500 which ended up costing them $7000, or made them hate getting in their car.”
Ouch! Will be sure to run all the numbers before final decision. Thanks for the valuable insights.
ed f
sprite wrote:
“Progressives look for and fight for NEW solutions. Conservatives fight to maintain the status quo. We don’t need no more stinkin’ status quo, people!”On point DCM and sprite.
The only constant is change!
The erosion of the US Constitution and of citizen’s rights based on political spin and fearmongering, is in fact leading to drastic change.
I fail to understand how these folks, who use the Constitution so often in arguing their points, can be so blindly welcoming to its evisceration.
The Founding Fathers did a good job in writing the Constitution and the Bill of Rights—-they provide the basis of the greatness and strength long enjoyed by the US, they should be left alone!
ed fNever underestimate the power of denial—
Kenneth, bradbard put it out there, pretty strong stuff, why don’t you spend a few free thinking minutes of your (complaining but reportedly) happy life thinking about and replying coherently to what he had to say.Otherwise maybe Scott should put an end to our misery and stop this madness.
We were having fun here—-Kenneth wrote:
“Conservative principles are what the United States was built upon. They made us strong. They made us successful. They made us a world power.”Gosh—I thought the US was founded as a result of a revolution against tyranny, and the strength and success of the US was based on principles of freedom.
After 8 years of the current admin’s spending the revenue from our grandchildren’s tax payments not quite sure how much longer the US will be able to sustain that “world power” status you seem so proud of. I can only hope you live long enough to read what history has to say about your twice voted for GWB, it ain’t gonna be pretty—maybe you can rewrite the history on that too.
ed fMaybe all the “liberal democrats” could pool their money and buy Kenneth a bus ticket to Managua. The US political pendulum is swinging away from you Ken, buck up and take it like a man.
ed fSuzuki’s and Toyota’s appear to be the most popular—–
If given the choice, would you buy a vehicle in CR or import one from the US, maybe something 3 to 5 years old, with 40,000 to 60,000 miles? I understand there will be shipping and customs expenses associated with importing, thinking this may run $4,000 to $6,000 USD total.
ibaron-
I agree–
with the understanding of this forum being real estate based, the answers were not unexpected—AAMOF, I also posted this question on two other CR forums. many replies on the other forums, the posts positive if written by those selling re, a bit more pessimistic to downright gloomy when written by those with no ties to development. balancing and judging responses, it would appear that caution is definately the order of the day. but then again, that is always called for in real estate
gracias,
edI grew up in coastal Virginia. One location in Virginia Beach near a river inlet has very dangerous drop offs and swift currents, also easy public access for those who would come to crab and fish. These folks were mostly from lower income groups, as they fished from shore. Over about 20 years upwards of 50 people died there, drowning by going beyond the drop off and getting caught in the current—it runs 7-8 knots with the tide. Finally, the city posted signs listing the names of those who’d died along with big skull and crossbones at top of signs—-no drownings in a number of years. Worked at Lynnhaven Inlet in Virginia Beach, might work in Costa Rica.
edI beleive there were 2 or more drowning deaths in Dominical very recently. While in Manuel Antonio last year we witnessed a near drowning which would have ended in death if not for the efforts of two younger guys with boogie boards who rushed out to save the near-victim. All three were swept into the rocks and suffered injury, cuts, etc. The Lonely Planet guided to CR does a good job in detailing beach conditions, safe/ unsafe. Dominical is noted for dangerous rip-tides, swimmers are directed south to Dominicalito I think—-
Personal responsibility comes into play here, being well informed, careful and sober make for a safe, fun experience.
BTW—a high number of people were killed last weekend in New York/Coney Island/Long Island due to rip tides.
Maybe a more cost effective solution would be Spanish/English signs posted in the areas where these tragic deaths occur—akin to the hearts painted on the roads. —-or would hotel/development intersts object to this being too negative a reality check?
