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Normally I try to give incite to folks or a least show them a different point of view or possibilities but in this case, I don’t see any reason to go further.
[quote=”Ronny”]The following link is a really interesting video about prohibition and how it doesn’t work.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#
Hemp has a million uses and it’s a shame that it takes such a bad rap.[/quote]
Great link, I saw the first few minutes, will watch the rest tonight……..thanks for the link!
In fact it would do the opposite effect, the overall cost of living will decrease, as products would cost less, and trade would be greatly increased bringing in more income, why do you think China owns us and a good part of the rest of the world, and while their people are poor, you have to compare to where they were 20 years ago, their standard of living and wages have increased dramatically.
my understanding is that the police look the other way as far as Pot.
Health wise: it would be much better if pot was legal and cigaretts were illegal. No cancer from Pot, actually no proven ill effects when used in moderation, can’t say that about tobacco. For you Asthma sufferers that smoke, Pot is actually a mild bronchial dilator, your asthma would be much better then tobacco use and it could actually improve it (hey another medical use). It should be legalized but then all those private contractors for prisons would go out of business and we can’t have that.
Actually, I wouldn’t believe much in what your friend told you, if it was true then is shouldn’t be at 510 today, actually I have seen many articles out there that state the colon is significantly over valued compared to the dollar. Yes the dollar has taken a hit but look at the size of costa rica and its economy. If the dollar sinks to far in CR, CR will suffer greatly with its exports and tourists markets which make up the greatest part of its economy. If CR has any sense, it would undervalue its currently against the dollar as China has done, many, many benefits for CR to do this.
[quote=”Torridtiger7788″]
What do you recommend for a “SICK HOUSE”? If a patient comes to you and their home is making them sick. From plastics, carpets, the smelly finishes on new hard wood floors? What can you do for the house?
This is where we come in. All of the chemicals, all of the products used in our homes release continually, we can destroy. Wayne[/quote]Again from the FDA:
“The concentration of ozone would have to greatly exceed health standards to be effective in removing most indoor air contaminants. In the process of reacting with chemicals indoors, ozone can produce other chemicals that themselves can be irritating and corrosive.”
If it were my patient in this house, ventilate, ventilate and ventilate, if possible remove the irritating carpet and the other irritants. Also if possible stay out of the house for a couple of days until the smell of paints, finishes etc. taper down.
Wayne, I guess we are just not going to agree on this, Of course I am always open to any independent scientific studies that you may have on it, you can send then through the website. But please, please don’t sell these things to sick asthmatic children! Adults have a choice.
[quote=”Torridtiger7788″]”The key words in all of your information are CAN CAUSE, CAN BE, CAN DAMAGE. Anything in to high a level CAN cause a problem. This is why we have the adjustable o3 adjustment. I have been in this business for over 40 years. I have used a form of my equipment for all this time. I have hundreds of friends and relatives who for years have relied on this equipment to keep their air pure and fresh.
Again “Try it you may like it.””[/quote]Jumping off the George Washington Bridge CAN CAUSE death, Can be deadly, CAN DAMAGE your ass, CAN cause a problem.
Why would someone pick your product with fuzzy science when there are other products that are scientifically proven to work?
I will say this even with an ERV, if your sick because of the quality of the air, you really should control the humidity inside and if you have carpets, they should also go (less dust mites etc.). Of course not smoking or allowing smokers in the house will also help greatly. For mold, its all in the humidity……….Hey we finally have a lively thread LOL
“As for your reference material you know as well as I do we can both provide hundreds of reports for both sides.
How about I do your house for free and show you how well my equipment and services work. You must have mold, you live in Costa Rica!!”No Thanks,
Seriously, are you saying that you can see the mold dying or the airborne spores etc dying. There are many devices that will get odors out of a room but does that mean its actually killing the “bad germs”. If a child has asthma and was sick, would you actually recommend your device over an ERV with a hepa (not to mention for the same cost)?In your advertising it says:
“With the Perfect Air 5000 your home will be protected 24/7 from bacteria, viruses, germs, mold growth” “At this full power level the Perfect Air 5000 produces more than enough ozone to kill germs, virus and mold. Like I told you. Turn the machine on full while you are away or out of the room and the door is closed.” So what your saying is that your device uses a toxic level of ozone, sounds wonderful. but I assure you that even is that is the case it is short acting and it covers over 3000 square feet why do you have to shut the door.”
Where is your documentation from an independent source that says it works, where as how do you explain the link I pasted above and the other sources out there that are independent of selling such devices that say they don’t work. Please read the article above which comes from Connecticut Department of Public Health Environmental Health Section it is very detailed….. there are other links on the site also to show the science of it.
Furthermore from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency:
“Conclusions
Whether in its pure form or mixed with other chemicals, ozone can be harmful to health.
When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts of ozone can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and, throat irritation. It may also worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma as well as compromise the ability of the body to fight respiratory infections.
Some studies show that ozone concentrations produced by ozone generators can exceed health standards even when one follows manufacturer’s instructions.
Many factors affect ozone concentrations including the amount of ozone produced by the machine(s), the size of the indoor space, the amount of material in the room with which ozone reacts, the outdoor ozone concentration, and the amount of ventilation. These factors make it difficult to control the ozone concentration in all circumstances.
Available scientific evidence shows that, at concentrations that do not exceed public health standards, ozone is generally ineffective in controlling indoor air pollution.
The concentration of ozone would have to greatly exceed health standards to be effective in removing most indoor air contaminants. In the process of reacting with chemicals indoors, ozone can produce other chemicals that themselves can be irritating and corrosive.
Recommendation
The public is advised to use proven methods of controlling indoor air pollution. These methods include eliminating or controlling pollutant sources, increasing outdoor air ventilation, and using proven methods of air cleaning.”
I was actually trying to be gentle in my last posts…respect for Scott. As a Respiratory Therapists, we steer our patients away from such useless devices, furthermore they are harmful to the patient as they would use such a device thinking it would help while not actually getting the correct device that would work. By the way Hepa filters actually work really well. The best device out there is a ERV with a Hepa filter on it, In the US, they are about the same price as your ozone polluter.
[quote=”Scott”]
I’ve had the Perfect Air 5000 for about two weeks now and it has really helped in freshening up my apartment after we’ve had a nice dinner with friends when the guys sit back and smoke a cigar afterwards…
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.com[/quote]You may know this gentleman well and he may be a great guy, but he is either misinformed all falsely advertising what this product can do.
“Ozone and UV-C both oxidize the DNA of all kinds of microorganisms, including mold spores, bacteria, and viruses and this process will kill the Swine Flu virus and many others. Because ozone and UVC light both kill by physical destruction of the DNA, mold spores, colonies, bacteria, and viruses can not regrow.”
“With the Perfect Air 5000 your home will be protected 24/7 from bacteria, viruses, germs, mold growth, and the smell associated with it. No more “furry” leather shoes and furniture! No black mold on the bathroom tiles. Just fresh Perfect Air the minute you step in your door.”
It is true UVC will kill bacteria, molds and some viruses but it has to come into direct contact with the light, The ozone killing the above stated is also false, The amounts of ozone that would be needed to kill the bacteria would be toxic to humans. No way can this do what it is stated above in a single room,not to mention a whole house.
Check my facts:
http://www.ct.gov/dph/lib/dph/environmental_health/eoha/pdf/ozone_generator_fact_sheet.pdfThere are many other sources out there, the only ones that say this works is those selling it.
For those of you that know me I’m a big time Nader fan, and really don’t like seeing advertisement like this.
I was also a critical care Respiratory Therapists and know a little bit about this stuff.[quote=”Scott”]There was and I deleted it.
I’ll leave the blood and guts stories to other websites…
Feel free to visit them if you wish.
Scott Oliver – Founder
WeLoveCostaRica.com[/quote]Come on Scott you just published an article about censorship in American in the name of security. I’m sure we can handle the blood and guts. No matter how bad an article is I don’t think there should be censorship of any kind, perhaps a warning on the top to warn folks of its nature though and let the reader decide if they want to read it. I for one would have been interested in reading the Jaco thing.
not really surprising, under the name of “security” the government can do anything. thats the way the American people want it. “Just like there are unjust people, there are unjust laws” (Ghandi).
Well I guess, I see it different……I would think that most folks that are retiring to CR probably already have their primary residency in the state paid for and are simply selling it for the funds to buy a house in CR. I guess its sort of an exchange. If your credit is good which many retirees fit in here, they won’t have an issue getting a low interest equity loan, rent the place and then wait for the market to recover. I would think, you would never tell the bank that your using the funds for CR or that this would no longer be your primary residency.
Depending on where you live and what part of the states your coming from, CR may actually be more expensive. For example Santa Ana and Escazu are more expensive then most parts of North Carolina…..meaning real estate is more expensive, keeping the same diet is more expensive as well car insurance, of course health care is less expensive but I think that this will change in the future too. Once the Costa Rican government figures out that retirees are costing the health care system much more money then what they put in and what the CR people get from these retirees. $1000 a month isn’t much, when you really look at it. Am guessing in the future the CAJA is going to cost retirees much more then the $60 per couple per month and it should. Obviously the CR people are flipping the bill for retirees Health Care. but this is another topic entirely.
…just to let you folks know, my wife and I are at least 20 years from retirement age. but of course this should have no baring on my view that some retirees are costing the CAJA and the CR people money. 💡
[quote=”DavidCMurray”]
Costa Rican banks don’t offer fixed-rate long term mortgages. And the interest rates they do offer are in no way dependent upon or related to interest rates in the United States.Credit card rates here run about 24% to as much as 55% per annum. In that context, my LIBOR plus 3% hardly seems disproportionate.
None of this is to say “cheap”.[/quote]
I was not aware of this, thanks for letting us know. The issue will this is that most Expats are on fixed incomes from the states, sounds like gringos should stay away from the CR credit market. I have to say I don’t use my US credit cards in the CR, they charge 2-3% per transaction and the merchants also won’t give you the 5% discount for cash, meaning using colonies saves us about 8%.
Just an idea…….. most Expats have a house back in the states or did before transporting to CR. It could be much cheaper to get a home equity loan (on your us house) in the states for your home purchase in CR (much lower rate and fixed at that) and then you could rent out the US house. Perhaps your rent will cover the loan payment while paying down the loan, not to mention the tax breaks and one day in the future the US house may appreciate too.
[quote=”DavidCMurray”]Good morning, crbill.
Our mortgage is with Banco HSBC here in Costa Rica and it’s on our property (land, house and guest house) outside Grecia. The term is for twenty-five years. For the first five years, it’s at 7% fixed. After that, it’s LIBOR plus 3% with a minimum of 7.5%. The LIBOR is in the neighborhood of the current fed discount rate (almost nothing), so when the first five years are up it appears (appears) that our rate will go to about 7.5%, but of course that could change.
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Wow!!!, seems like a very high risk mortgage to me, If inflation returns (it will, its just a matter of time), your interest rate is going to sky rocket, and the min 7.5% seems very high on an adjustable rate to start with. In the states with decent credit you can get a jumbo for 4.5% fixed for 30. In any event, I would get out of that monster and get a fixed at least.
