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[quote=”kwhite1″][quote=”davidd”]Kwhite
don’t you know???
everything is going good according to David.
so don’t worry..:?:?:?:?:?:?:?
these 2700 military vehicles for homeland security is business as usual
[quote=”kwhite1″][quote=”DavidCMurray”]If you look back through recent history, you’ll learn that the sociologists (Robert Merton in particular) have pretty well nailed it. Civil unrest occurs primarily when the population is generally optimistic about the likelihood of change in their interest. That explains well the civil unrest that characterized the 1960s and 1970s the calm that characterized the decade of the Great Depression. For as long as the populace is pessimistic about the chances for change, they tend not to raise a fuss. What would be the point?
Without disputing the figures about the military hardware that the U.S. has purchased, it’s important to note that those expenditures have been mostly done in the guise of homeland security. The recipients have been state and local governments. When, for example, you divide 30,000 bulletproof vests among all the state and local police forces in the fifty states, you don’t end up with much of a concentration. The same is true for 7,000 assault rifles, etc.
In 2009, there were some 14,000 law enforcement agencies int the U.S. which employed some 708,000 officers. If you do the math, you’ll soon see that the country isn’t very well prepared for anything much less some tidal wave of civil unrest.
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That’s the issue, if the government tells you not to worry everything is fine, the sheeple listen and move right along. It will be interesting when they wake up in the very near future and all of the dollar bills they thought they had are worth 1/2 of the face value. But no worries right? They can just get in line with the rest for the EBT cards, watch what happens when those don’t work anymore…want a preview? When the EBT cards did not work in Atlanta a few months back, there were near riots at the gubment office. AND that was only a 24 hour delay.
It will be right along lines with the roving gangs in Chicago right now, just beating up everyone in the way. This will be coming to a city near you soon, don’t miss the action!
I like David, but the problem is people like him become very narrow minded and refuse to look at the real time things happening and refuse to look at a different point of view.
A quote ” Question with boldness”, does not mean to be nasty about it, but it is okay to question motives and further explanations. As I understand it, the government works for us, I think far too many people have forgotten that, including the government. I will just sit here and wait for the gubment to come knock on my door, I’m sure I am on a list somewhere, strickly because I own guns (a lot) and go to church. They no likey my kind.[/quote
On occasion I enjoy shooting and hunting. There is something about the science of ballistics that I find challenging. Taking a rifle system and making it perform to its best and trying to keep my natural sloppy thinking out of the way brings me enjoyment. Our weather is improving so I went to buy some reloading supplies. Shocking, the shelves were empty and I mean nothing on them!!!
[quote=”kwhite1″][quote=”Scott”]Jee! Jee!
If only it were true … “…large enough to swallow the presidential limousine….”
Scott
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Darn the bad luck…..you don’t need him there breathing up the air anyway.[/quote]
I had a discussion with a friend several years ago about the driving conditions in Costa Rica. After the all the arguments were made I think it was pretty even. Potholes keeping Obama out tips the scale. Keep the potholes. HAHAHA
There wasn’t any money to steal, he’s hunting richer grounds.[quote=”sprite”]Regardless of differing explanations we have for the current mess, many of us agree it is a big mess and many of us are angry and disgusted with what has happened and with what is happening.
What concerns me is the number of people who have no clue as to the seriousness of our situation.
Based on my conversations, it is my impression that too many do not understand that we lost our republic some time ago.
These people will do nothing to bring it back. The system will come down whether of its own weight or because the elites make it happen so that they can set up a new order (Ordo ab chaos)
After that happens, the same bad guys will return to power and all of us will suffer the consequences of the apathy and ignorance of those who ignored reality.
“You can ignore reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of ignoring reality” Ann Rand.
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Unfortunately, so many will suffer because of the ignorance of their neighbors. Wise words Sprite, perhaps a few will understand.[quote=”waggoner41″][quote=”beansandbooks”]Let’s all hope that the Big O isn’t bringing a copy of the 2700 page health care bill, that nobody in the US understands, along with him as a gift to the Costa Rican President. Now that would set CAJA back a bit. :D[/quote]
Every time I see a reference to that legislation the number of pages goes up and [b]up[/b] and [size=200]up.[/size]
I have a copy of the legislation and when you throw out the pork attached, it amounts to a little over 900 pages.[/quote]
Up and up it will go as they create this monster of a disaster. Too many fools with their heads in the sand to fight. Good luck!!!
[quote=”johnnyh”][quote=”sprite”][quote=”DavidCMurray”]Yes, I readily agree that the middle class has taken enormous hits in the past forty years or so. I also acknowledge that the very existence of the middle class was made possible in significant measure, although not entirely, by a manufacturing economy.
None of that, however, supports your assertion:
[quote=”sprite”]The US stopped making things decades ago when the globalists in the government shipped our manufacturing jobs overseas. [/quot
The manufacturing sector in the U.S., while perhaps not what it once was, has hardly gone dormant. Reports of its final demise (by you, sprite) are greatly and inaccurately exaggerated.[/quote]
David,
Statistics say I am correct as to diminished US manufacturing capacities relative to other countries.Table 2. – Manufacturing Trade Deficit Growth,
By Industry, 1989-2007Change
Item (US$ bil.)
Total -699.1
Oil & Gas -237.3
Computer & Electronic Products -109.1
Apparel -52.6
Electrical Equipment -27.4
Chemicals -18.9
Source: US International Trade AdministrationThe above graph shows that we buy more than we make for the industries listed. Much of it comes from China. If you think it is an exaggeration for me to say the U.S. is in deep doo doo for loss of manufacturing capacity, then tell me what you think would (will) happen when the the Chinese decide to dump the 1.2 trillion dollars they now own because of this trade deficit on to the world market?
I am not sure you are able to think that far ahead. But don’t feel badly. It appears that nobody in our government can either.
The Chinese are not dumping anything Sprite. They are not dumb, but they are concerned about uncle Benny and the Fed printing way too much Dollars. They are investing those depreciating Dollars all over the world, and they are buying gold like it’s going crazy.
They have a great concept Sprite: Invest in natural resources, raise the economic standards of their citizens, and at the same time look like good guys in the eyes of the “Democratic” world. We American’s on the other hand bring “Democracy” and destruction to anyone that doesn’t toe America’s hegemony. Guess who’s winning so far?:shock:[/quote]Can you imagine how fast the US would rebound if the bastards in Washington would allow it. I cannot think of a more vile group than the ones running the US today. Sure I’m pissed. It would not take more than a blink of an eye to put the US back on track if the government would get out of the way. Where did these know it all’s come from anyway.
[quote=”DavidCMurray”][quote=”jmcbuilder”]
I think people would be surprised just how much we do manufacture. The US is still in the top few in manufacture.[/quote]So you agree that the U.S. still has a significant manufacturing sector and that sprite has it characteristically wrong. That’s been my sole point all along.[/quote]
Yes, I agree that the US still has a tremendous manufacture base. Sprite feels the pain of the middle class from the what I would call a betrayal of the American people by its representatives. This betrayal is ongoing with no end in sight.
[quote=”DavidCMurray”][quote=”jmcbuilder”]
David, those are international corps that sell world wide. [/quote]You’re absolutely correct. They both sell and manufacture outside the U.S., but that doesn’t alter the fact that they do, in fact, also manufacture in the U.S. which sprite says hasn’t been true for decades.
She says that, but she’s simply wrong.
[/quote]I think people would be surprised just how much we do manufacture. The US is still in the top few in manufacture. I think where the confusion comes from is the drop of manufacture as a percentage world wide and a globalists push to redistribute wealth through manufacture throughout the world. From a national perspective it seems self destructive to encourage manufacture around the world.
[quote=”DavidCMurray”][quote=”sprite”]The US stopped making things decades ago when the globalists in the government shipped our manufacturing jobs overseas. [/quote]
Ah, but for a look at actual facts, see the following article from Industry Week, a source that actually knows what it’s talking about . . .
http://www.industryweek.com/resources/us500/2012
[/quote]David, those are international corps that sell world wide. GM only does about 25% of its business in the US and yet the US taxpayer bailed them out. I think the US at one time may have manufactured somewhere in the neighborhood of 75% of all manufacture in the world. I’m sure it has dropped some.
I would add that banks are joined at the hip with government for controlling people, they may call themselves independent but that is false. Look at what the Fed now has as a mandate, unemployment. I wish I could be convinced that metals are the answer but sure don’t see it. The dollar will survive as long as the US does, although worth less as we are taxed to death in the form of money printing.
[quote=”VictoriaLST”]Uranium will poison you and darn quickly too. Not a good idea. The rare earths are a good investment – provided there is an industrial need for them, and there wouldn’t be if things collapse.
How about books? Gunsmithing, cooperage, soap making and other basic formulas?[/quote]
Agreed, Uranium is not for most but the worlds appetite for these types of rare earths is growing very fast. I’m not sure how yellow cake is handled. The Chinese are building 40 reactors. Does that scare anyone?
[quote=”Sailor”]Interesting post…..I purchase diamonds. Very easy to store in ice trays, in the freezer; cannot be seen and secure![/quote]
14 days to Tahiti, a nice sailboat sound great. Why not Uranium, much more valuable than gold. Kwhite, Costa Rica is a true gem don’t you think?
[quote=”waggoner41″]I have to agree with johnnyh…if it aint in my pocket I dont own it.[/quote]
I would take it one step further. If the government knows about your holdings they could target you for confiscation. I’m still not convinced that gold is more than the game of the day and once all the players are all in a new twist will appear leaving many holding the bag. By the way several of my friends have made fortunes in gold but they bought in at a very low price.
[quote=”DavidCMurray”][quote=”jmcbuilder”]David, My friends in Costa Rica have been making returns above 15% for years with bridge loans. [/quote]
jmc, you’ve mentioned bridge loans before, but don’t they require a substantial fistfull of colones? And isn’t there a significant legal process in setting one up? I can’t imagine that the small amount of cash I have to invest would bridge anything larger than a commodious chicken coop.
By investing in CDs at Coopenae, there is no “process” whatsoever save for transferring the money to them and e-mailing Sr. Zamora my wishes regarding the terms of the investment. No attorney is required. No action in the National Registry is needed. And there is no matter of the credit quality of the borrower or the property in question.
Of course, all the preceding is based on the pre-condition that one is already a member of Coopenae. That required an hour of printing out or copying bank records, a utility bill, and our cedulas, a trip to San Ramon (in our case), a pleasant hour getting acquainted with Sr. Zamora, and a c5,000 deposit to our new savings account there. Once all that’s done, however, you’re done with it. Then it’s just a matter of making the transactions like any other banking activity.
[/quote]I’m only pointing out that the interest being paid is quite easily made and then some by Sr Zamora and I would not consider these loans to be in the high risk or unusual type. It also sounds that Sr Zamora is bound by Costa Rican banking laws. All good.
[quote=”DavidCMurray”][quote=”Lotus123″]Curious how they are able to pay such high rates? Generally speaking high rate of return=higher rate of risk. Do they offer an explanation?[/quote]
I think there are three explanations. First, they are a non-profit institution.
Second, they charge (by U.S. standards) very high interest rates on their loans. Their CD rates are “discounted” from their loan rates.
And third, interest paid by Costa Rican non-profit financial institutions is not taxable by Costa Rica. Commercial, profitmaking, banks withhold 8% of the interest on CDs in taxes.
[/quote]David, My friends in Costa Rica have been making returns above 15% for years with bridge loans. That part of the deal is quite realistic. They however only loan 50 cents on the dollar on real assets and run the risk of owning these assets should the borrower not perform.
[quote=”VictoriaLST”]Didn’t even read all that post. But then, you don’t read my science links.
THAR SHE BLOOOOWWWS[/quote]
Perhaps a little unkind. Someone having the energy to try to explain such a difficult subject should be commended. There is so much science to digest I’m not sure any non medical parent would be able to make the call. We rely on the government to help with these decisions no matter how misguided. I don’t like being a sheep!! What can you do short of doing nothing and possibly having to fight the government in turn.
