[Kwhite1]

[quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”davidd”]
for example I recently read Chicago although having very strict gun laws in place has had a dramatic increase in murder and gun deaths.[/quote]

Well once again you read it wrong. The homicide rate in Chicago has dropped dramatically since the mid 90s. In 1994 the murder rate peaked at 931 and by 2011 it had fallen more than half to 435. The gun ban law was passed in 1982. This year there was a small spike that put on a pace to reach an annual rate of about 500, but that is still drastically reduced from what we saw in the 80s and 90s.

And that strict gun law that you refer to was struck down in 2011 by the Supreme Court. Isn’t it interesting that murders increased after that happened?

See stats for murders in Chicago here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago#Murders%5B/quote%5D

Hmmm..interesting http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/08/chicago-homicide-rate-alr_n_2433329.html and….. http://www.npr.org/2013/01/07/168771088/u-s-murder-rate-declines-but-chicagos-goes-up

Notice I used the liberal web sites for the info so as not to be accused of being too right wing.

The murder rates are climbing my friend…

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”davidd”][quote=”sweikert925″][quote=”kwhite1″]Coming to a computer near you……..INTERNET TAX. Just saw this one and heard it on the radio thing.[/quote]

And god knows everything you hear on the radio must be true, just like everything you read on the internet is. :wink:[/quote]

sweikert

I know exactly what you mean you can’t believe everything you read on the internet

for example I recently read Chicago although having very strict gun laws in place has had a dramatic increase in murder and gun deaths.

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Sorry sweikert, I did not qualify my comment with an actual link so here ya go…. http://news.cnet.com/8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=internet+taxes

It is in debate in the senate now.

David, that cannot be true about Chicago could it? I mean….guns are outlawed there right? How could the gun deaths be so high? Must be a misprint, I’d like to see some proof of that, do you have a link so others can follow along?

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”davidd”]Scott

cmon man.. are you not being a little paranoid??? :D:D:D:D:D:D

according to David m the goverments role is to help us and they will take care of everyone.

so all is well and using any kind of brain matter to read between the lines of whats going on .. even if history teaches

is totally insane man

:wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::wink::wink:

[quote=”Scott”]Ha! This just got a a LOT more interesting … Take a look at this from the [url=http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&bill_num=928&which_year=2013&SUBMIT1.x=-643&SUBMIT1.y=0&SUBMIT1=Normal]Connecticut General Assembly website[/url]:

[url=http://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2013/4/30/connecticut-begins-gold-dealer-shutdown.html]AN ACT CONCERNING PRECIOUS METALS OR STONES DEALERS.[/url]

To require precious metals or stones dealers to provide a periodic statement of transactions in an electronic format to the local licensing authority and retain any goods purchased for at least ten days, and to make the requirements applicable to precious metals or stones dealers similar to those applicable to secondhand dealers.

Introduced by: Public Safety and Security Committee

As economist Gary North pointed out concering this bill: “You may recall that the terror of the French Revolution was run by the Committee on Public Safety.” In the section on “Bullions and Coins”, the bill says:

For bullion and coin sales, in addition to the requirements under current law, the bill requires dealers to keep the record in English, be consecutively numbered, and include the seller’s general description.
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I am positive that the only “intention” is to protect the consumer, there is NOOOOOO way that the honest Abe gubment would use in any way, shape, or form, information gathered for anything than less than honest to goodness protection of the consumer….right? Can I get an Amen?

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”kwhite1″]
Scott, please let him know if there is anything I can do to assist please contact me. I am in Florida curently and will be available if I can help in any way.[/quote]

Kinda puts stuff in perspective doesn’t it? Makes the bullsh*t bickering about politics, economy, and opinions seem very insignificant compared to what these poor children are facing.

[Kwhite1]

Scott, please let him know if there is anything I can do to assist please contact me. I am in Florida curently and will be available if I can help in any way.

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”DavidCMurray”]In some cases, medical care providers, firefighters, police, prison guards and others do, in fact, jeopardize their own safety, their lives, to protect and to serve us. And while air traffic controllers may not be at quite the same level of risk, certainly they DO protect and serve. Try flying without their service.

Since legal self-protection (gun possession) in Costa Rica is so nearly impossible, the advice to anyone not here already would be not to come, which would, of course, pull the rug out from under anyone in the real estate business. Is that what you’re really advocating? And those already here should depart posthaste, right? Otherwise, everyone, including our hired and heavily armed personal bodyguards, should hire their own bodyguards.

Your contempt and disdain for all things and all people governmental is readily apparent, Scott, but if you’re going to wear it on your sleeve, you need to formulate less embarassing ad hominem attacks.

Now, shall we open up the discussion to include those whose sole purpose in life is to whore after money?[/quote]

I am not sure that I buy into the more mone someone makes equates to the better service one receives. I happen to agree with David M (ouch, that hurt). But I also agree with Scott 1000%, I would not trust my family’s safety to someone else as long as I am able to provide that. Those “entrusted” government servants do not hold a vested or emotional intrest in my family. I have seen workers at a fast food place that make minimum wage at best, treat you with outstanding customer service, and I have seen equal employees that make the same wage treat you with utter disrespect.

So I don’t know that the “wage” is the issue as much as the characture of the person that you happen to be engaging with at that particular moment. I am sure, at some point and time in our lives, that we all have dealt with government workers (no matter which country it may be, take your pick), both are in the same position, both make the same wage, yet one will help you with your problem and the other will send you packing because even though it says to bring one copy, that clerk wanted it in triplicate to save a trip to the copy machine (the job description did NOT say anything about having to make copies…as if!)

But the point being, I will handle the security of my family, thank you for the offer but I got it….

[Kwhite1]

Coming to a computer near you……..INTERNET TAX. Just saw this one and heard it on the radio thing.

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”jmcbuilder”][quote=”kwhite1″][quote=”johnnyh”][quote=”critterhill”]kwhite, unless I overlooked it, you failed to mention:

estate tax
hospital district tax
3.8% tax on home sales

I’m sure there are more taxes to add the list that we just can’t think of right now.
[/quote

Yeah, leave it to each individual state to come out with a breathing tax, a pharting tax, in the name of protecting the environment, a walking tax for sidewalk repair, and a further talking tax for the additional oxygen depletion of the planet.[/quote]

I just heard of another new one today….”rain tax”, let that one steep for a minute. They are going to charge you a tax per sq foot of land that does not absorb rainwater, i.e. your house, driveway, parking lot, ect. Nice huh?[/quote]

That type of tax already exists in Lake Tahoe, although its not called a tax. My favorite tax is the view tax. Your property tax is based on whether your view is lake, mountain, or trees.[/quote]

Will they prorate the “tax” if you fill out an affidavit stating that you closed your eyes for part of the time so you don’t use up the view? Just saying….

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”jmcbuilder”]Doing the nation’s business has a cost and this trip will cost plenty. I’m worried about what he is going to give away.

Kwhite, your share is higher than $.10. Only half of working taxpayers will contribute, and don’t forget about the interest on the borrowed money for the trip.[/quote]

I realize this all too painfully JMC…..I was trying to make myself feel good with my charitable offer, thanks for crushing my dream…..

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”waggoner41″][quote=”davidd”]anyone want to take a gander as to how much this whole trip with the U.S. king will cost the american taxpayer???

i avoid saying names because in case secret service is tailing this forum :shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:

I would wager including airforce one and personnel and $$$$ gifts to CR

$5 million

what say wagonner???
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http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/the-traveling-president/

It would pay you to read the entire article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_trips_made_by_the_President_of_the_United_States
For comparison Obama has taken 26 trips so far during his presidency with four more planned this year.
George Bush took 140 trips during years in office
Bill Clinton took 133 trips during years in office
George H W Bush took 60 trips during years in office
Ronald Reagan took 49 trips during years in office
Jimmy Carter took 31 trips during years in office
Gerald Ford took 19 trips during his year in office
Richard Nixon took 43 trips during his years in office
Lyndon Johnson took 27 trips during years in office
John Kennedy took 16 trips during years in office
Dwight Eisenhower took 37 trips during years in office
Harry Truman took 6 trips during his years in office
Franklin Roosevelt took 52 trips during his years in office

Those who criticize the cost of Obama’s flights do not want you to know that George W. Bush spent at least $20 million taxpayer dollars just on flights to his ranch in Crawford.
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I see your wikipedia and raise you, the facts you put out there are a bit off…..53 trips my friend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidential_trips_made_by_Barack_Obama

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”davidd”]So Aguirrewar

your saying that this trip will cost the AVERAGE AMERICAN TAXPAYER $10 to $15 million dollars???

8)8)8)8)8)8)8)8)8)8)8)8)

I wonder what the actual R.O.I. on this trip for the American Taxpayer??

[quote=”aguirrewar”]It
is going to cost a whole lot more than $5 million, the White House has to send ahead of time an advance team to make arrangements with the US Embassy and sweep the hotel where he is going to stay.

Make travel plans and inspect the roads he will travel, send his LIMO and other vehicles for support, communications (SECURED), food, extra security, etc..

He arrives 3 May and departs 5, 3 days total for about $10-15 million and that is not counting what the different money the PRESS and the Costa Rica gov. will spend.

In the meantime Washington, DC does not go to sleep, there will be provision to have in the capitol a MIRROR government just in case.

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GOOD NEWS!!!! At $15 million, it will only cost every man, woman, and childrens only $.05 each, I’ll double my share and give someone a break.

As for the ROI, my calculations is……..ZERO, ZIP, (and for my spanish speaking friends) Nada.

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”johnnyh”][quote=”critterhill”]kwhite, unless I overlooked it, you failed to mention:

estate tax
hospital district tax
3.8% tax on home sales

I’m sure there are more taxes to add the list that we just can’t think of right now.
[/quote

Yeah, leave it to each individual state to come out with a breathing tax, a pharting tax, in the name of protecting the environment, a walking tax for sidewalk repair, and a further talking tax for the additional oxygen depletion of the planet.[/quote]

I just heard of another new one today….”rain tax”, let that one steep for a minute. They are going to charge you a tax per sq foot of land that does not absorb rainwater, i.e. your house, driveway, parking lot, ect. Nice huh?

[Kwhite1]

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Sales Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What in the heck happened? Can you spell ‘politicians?'[/quote]

Wow Davidd, that was true poetry, It brought a tear to my eye. Now excuse me while I go throw up because all these taxes make me sick to my stomach.

Newflash…..you can add one more to the list….INTERNET TAX!!!!!

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”davidd”]anyone want to take a gander as to how much this whole trip with the U.S. king will cost the american taxpayer???

i avoid saying names because in case secret service is tailing this forum :shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:

I would wager including airforce one and personnel and $$$$ gifts to CR

$5 million

what say wagonner???
[/quote]

I think you are low……an hour of AFO cost $180,000USD, http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/05/air-force-one-air-fare-179750-per-hour/1 , it will cost upwards of $2 million just to fly from DC to CR, secret service, support staff, hotels, cars, ect. I can see it topping $8-10 million easy.

[Kwhite1]

[quote=”Scott”][url=http://www.businessinsider.com/most-expensive-real-estate-markets-2013-3]From BusinessInsider.com[/url]

[img]https://www.welovecostarica.com/public/images/Most_ExpensiveB.jpg[/img]

“Monaco remains the most expensive residential real estate market in the world, with luxury homes costing anywhere from $5,350 to $5,920 per square foot…”

And you thought Costa Rica real estate was expensive…. Pah!

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I’ll take 3.5 sq ft in Monaco please. I think with that I get 4 policemen for protection.

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