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[quote=”2bncr”]”until there is no more society. And that possible eventuality is what really disturbs me.”
First you hide in the masses and then you say there will be no masses to hide in. So why woud you choose to hide in the masses in the first place?
Saying you will hide were it is not safe to hide is being in denial. So now you just don’t do anything and hope for the best eh? That’s sticking your head in the sand. Baaaahhhh – sheepeople.[/quote]
ARE YOU LIVING IN COSTARICA?????? If so then why….I lived in a gated community when I first arrived here…I might as well have been in the states…there was very little inter-action among neighbors and believe me the people in town do have an attitude towards the gated personas….now I live in a tico neighborhood and love it..
[quote=”scottsmail”]I’m new to this site. I still live in the US but am eagerly looking forward to moving to Costa Rica.
I read all of this particular forum and have a few questions.
I believe based on the writing style and gun position that most, if not all, of the posters are US citizens. If I’m incorrect no big deal because it won’t alter my purpose here.
1. Even if some of you have permanent resident status or even acquired CR citizenship, you came to CR for a reason(s). Why impose our attitude and way of life on CR?
2. It was stated at the beginning that one could acquire a firearm as a permanent resident but the conversation quickly moved to a gun control tit-for-tat which is sadly typical on forums and blogs. Has anyone who has posted here NOT gone 5 years without an incident requiring the use of a firearm at their former abode? 10 years?
3. Has anyone who has posted here been in an incident here that a firearm was required?
The previous two question were to address history since history was used to show what gun banishment can lead to. I am not questioning the facts presented but those are, as tragic as they may be, only half the story. That is unless there was total annihilation of the populations of those countries. If not, that would indicate an amount of population remaining. How does this relate? In my twisted mind I know that crimes are being committed continually, but at 55 I have never been robbed, beaten, et cetera. I think this is true of the majority of people, at least here in the US. Besides those are all politically motivated exterminations and not street or general crime. Apples and oranges. Although dead is dead no matter its cause.
4. Can you not wait that long (minimum 5 year continuous stay)?
5. Now, as I understand it, even if you become a CR citizen; as a foreigner you will still not have the right to vote in a move to have this law (or any other) changed. Without a formally recognized voice in political matters, do we promote overthrow of the current government (violent or otherwise) to resolve this matter?
These are real and serious questions (with the possible exception of 5) that I feel should be respected and answered honestly.
My point (finally, thank GOD) is that you came here for many varied reasons, the least of which had to do with firearms, if it was even considered by anyone of you. If it was a concern before you moved to CR, then you came here with the understanding that is how the game is played. What’s your beef?
I’m not going to waffle over whether I am pro- or anti-gun as that is not the issue this forum is attempting to address (at least at its onset) in my opinion.
My purpose in hopefully moving to Costa Rica is to establish a new life. Close the last chapter of the current book and start a new one. I want to immerse myself in the culture and people of CR. Your goal here may be different.
Lastly, I believe that if this (firearm wait period) is a very strong issue for you, perhaps you ought to consider returning to your country of origin and leave the native ticos to address issues as they feel is proper.
Scott Smail
srsmail1@verizon.netps If the US goes the way of Switzerland; better hope you can beat me to the front of the line buying stock in firearm companies.[/quote]
I only want to impose my way of thinking to the people who come over my fence and try to harm my family..this hasnt happened yet and I have been here for almost 2 years and have been coming for 7 years without incident…but I rather be able to handle the situation if it arises..I have heard of problems from others on this forum..and yes by the way since u dont live here maybe you should hold your opinion until u do…It might change…dont you think???[quote=”ticorealtor”]I think people don’t want to say anything when the U.S. does good things!
[url=http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?pid=7089285&fbid=488341273227&id=71189598227]U.S embassy[/url][/quote]hey scott I know you were in the service and understand better than most whats going on here…
all I can say is my son served with the Marine Corp on board the Iwo Jima..I talked to him yesterday and he told me that this was a regularly scheduled Carribean tour…not to worry and dont read anything into this..[quote=”gzeniou”]It is true that our Car insurance company would not cover the car out of the USA (Geico), I’m guessing most others won’t.
Actually my research on this site suggested shipping cars here, at least that was my take when I searched the topic.
I will say this, just because it didn’t work well for me doesn’t mean it won’t work for others, but I personally would not go with any shipper that wasn’t highly recommended (this shipper was on this site) and most importantly a shipper that wasn’t fully insured).By the way, Crowley (the actually cargo ship, where the car is placed and processed) is fully insured and does do an inspection on your car when its dropped off while you are there and I’m told does the same when the car is dropped off in its destination country, it is inspected with either the owner or agent representative of the owner. If the car is damaged by Crowley, there insurance will take care of it. I’m not sure though when the final Crowley inspection is (before or after customs). but I bet you can’t get to your car before the customs inspection, thus the Crowley inspection is done after customs. If I’m wrong about this please correct me. If there is any doubt, I can call Crowley about this. Basically, I am disagreeing with the above post, If items were damaged or stolen on the boat or in the ports where Crowley is you are covered. I assure you Crowley ships thousands of cars a year all over the world, and if you ever have been to their port in Florida, its extremely secure. Of course nothing is 100% that is why there is insurance.[/quote]
you guys are piss…in the wind…I was in the shipping business for 25 yrs in the USA..for your information you buy your own transportation private insurance to cover these problems..it is well documented on many sites that this kind of theft is common when shipping vehicles and believe me the union ILA workers that load on the docks dont give a rats ass about your vehicle or your personal effects..The only way to insure a good transport is to put the car in a container not on a ROHO drive on vessel..Didnt do your homework on this one…The insurance is a shipping insurance not a car insurance company like Geico,,,
[quote=”PuraVidas”][quote=”moonbanks”][quote=”costaricafinca”][b]soldier[/b], thanks for your reply. Again, it is good to hear that you did take the time to check things out, and hopefully you have found your [i]’paradise’.[/i][/quote]
I visited costarica for 5-6 years trying to get a feel for the country..explored the whole pacific coast north to south..way to hot for me even though I love the beach..not the utility bill..Have lived in Atenas full time for the past year.I started in a gated community and really did not like it at all..Moved to a tico neighborhood and have met many people who are great and have had no problems what so ever..I hope it continues. My wife is very active in the community and we have adjusted nicely..
I like being close to the city if I need a change of scenery,food,amenities, etc. I also love living in the country away from traffic,less crime, easy living..
realistic budget of 3500.00$ a month that covers everything..rent,food,utilitys,trips,entertainment,car,caja,medical,etc…its not cheap to live here..
we dont plan on moving back to the states but never say never….tks[/quote]Wow, I could live like a true king on $3,500 per month. My wife and I survive on $600 per month living in the country and $1,000 per mo. when staying in San Jose. That includes everything… rent, food, utility, trips, entertainment, motorcycle, caja, medical, etc. Heck our rent is only 75,000 colones per month in a house with a cold water shower and our idea of entertainment is sitting on the beach with a six pack of cold Imperial and a surfboard. I guess it just depends on what “standard of living” you find acceptable.[/quote]
my question to you is simple…How old are you??how many kids do you have back in the states..what is your medical condition…I live in a tico house,drive a tico car,…I did the surf thing with the beer and no money 40 years ago..work my ass off had 3 heart attacks and got out of the rat race..believe me my budget is yes bigger than yours but I have a lot more expenses than you..I wish I could live on $1000.00 a month..Its not possible..but who cares…puravida my friend live the good life…..
[quote=”costaricafinca”][b]soldier[/b], thanks for your reply. Again, it is good to hear that you did take the time to check things out, and hopefully you have found your [i]’paradise’.[/i][/quote]
I visited costarica for 5-6 years trying to get a feel for the country..explored the whole pacific coast north to south..way to hot for me even though I love the beach..not the utility bill..Have lived in Atenas full time for the past year.I started in a gated community and really did not like it at all..Moved to a tico neighborhood and have met many people who are great and have had no problems what so ever..I hope it continues. My wife is very active in the community and we have adjusted nicely..
I like being close to the city if I need a change of scenery,food,amenities, etc. I also love living in the country away from traffic,less crime, easy living..
realistic budget of 3500.00$ a month that covers everything..rent,food,utilitys,trips,entertainment,car,caja,medical,etc…its not cheap to live here..
we dont plan on moving back to the states but never say never….tks[quote=”maravilla”]yes, we had an armed guard when i got robbed. they waited until he went off duty at the first light of dawn then hit my house. another incident happened while the guard was on duty. i refuse to live in fear or barricade myself inside my house — i ditched the alarm system which went off when they entered the house but they buried the console under a couple of pillows so nobody heard it. i do place dowels in my sliding doors and windows so they would have a hard time getting past that. and then i have two dogs — one is useless and the other is loco, so i don’t have a clue what good they might be. all of these measures only provide a modicum of protection. if they want in, they will get in, guard or not, alarm system or not, etc.[/quote]
maybe you should try living in a tico neighborhood , get to know your neighbors, make friends,learn spanish, try to live like a tico and not a rich american locked behind a gate…get the target off your back…
[quote=”maravilla”]i would bet scott is better trained than all of you, and probably most of the police here. it’s not him i worry about, but the untrained gringos who believe they are astute enough to put that gun to good use and not injure some member of their family, or worse yet, have that gun used on them by the intruders (which happens a lot). and no i did not renounce my citizenship, but i voted with my feet. i have the right to my citizenship, but i can also protest that in which my government engages to which i am diametrically opposed, and an illegal war over wmd’s that didn’t exist, was high on the list of criminal acts that i refused to condone. i live in a perfectly livable, beautiful place in the States; the only thing i got tired of was the snow, so climate was a tiny factor in my decision; war mongering loomed large.[/quote]
just wondering do you live in costarica??
Marvilla dont worry about me not knowing how to handle a weapon…cant buy one…I guess I will have to use a baseball bat even though I didnt play baseball I think I could use it…[quote=”moonbanks”]went to gun shop in multiplaza and tried to buy a gun..was denied stating I had to be a permanent resident not a temporary and couldnt buy with a corporation (which I have )unless I was a permanent resident…bottom line was told the new law states only a citizen or permanent resident can legally own a firearm for protection at their home…Any opionions?????[/quote]
I am not paranoid..I live in a great tico neighborhood and have wonderful neighbors..I did not move to costa rica because they had no army..I moved hear for the culture,the beautiful mountains and beaches and people.I have handled firearms all my life and I was taught at an early age not to use them unless you intend to shoot..would I shoot if someone was breaking in to my house..Yes..would I carry on the street probably not..I have been in and out of costa rica for the last ten years and have never encounter a problem..But I had guns in my house in the U.S. for the same reason and would like to do the same here..Guns are like lawyers ,you dont like them until you need one..
Hope you dont have a home invasion,tied up,robbed ,raped and possibly murdered…[quote=”2BNCR”]I bet nothing is going to happen when he leaves. They used to fine you at the airport. It was cheap way back when. My kids have overstayed their visas several times and have never been fined or had problems reentering the country – really this country enforces the laws when and how they see fit so you really do not know. I will tell you one thing for sure, they will not put you in a pot and boil you then eat you. Let us know what happened after he leaves.[/quote]
leave on a plane from sjo…wont even look[quote=”Johnhw2″]When did the toll road open, I thought it was projected for later this year?
Is it now open all the way from Caldera to Escazu now?
Also do you know if the entrance/exit near Atenas is open now too?
Thanks[/quote]
atenas off ramp is open and well marked..
great road…atenas to multiplaza mall is only 15-20 minutes:D:DScott I think you hit the nail on the head..What every happens in the U.S. still effects the citizens living here..tks for your comment
[quote=”cp1436″]Is there any US state or region that seems to be contributing the most retirees to CR? I know that for years this phenomena was seen in Florida with the majority of the influx from the North East. Is this pattern continuing in CR?
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retired in atenas from charleston scyou cannot get on the new highway until you get to oritina…you run right into it …no problem…it runs for maybe 10-15 miles then turns back into the old road…there is one toll booth which is 380 colones…so when you leave the airport use the old road thru atenas then on to oritina….suppose to be finished by the end of this year but I wouldnt count on it…
