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Run as fast as you can!!!
I have seen their head quaters and will not send any of my clients to them. If you like the high pressure sales and communitys that look like california than go for it. They have a room for the customer service with about 30 people on the phones all day.
Personally I was contacted for months after I visted and they would tell me to buy fast because the prices were moving upwards.
I would highly suggest other developers that are smaller and have a much better reputation.
Yes, butch you have been had! Like everywhere in this world you have bad people as well as good people. You also have people that you pay for services that say they are friends but are really the con artist.
To generalize all Ticos in this situation is also like calling all gringos the ugle Americans which I am sure that we all have seen in Costa Rica.
Many gringos come to Costa Rica and think that all ticos are so freindly and they can open their houses up and expect that no one will steel from them. This is the the unexperianced gringo!
Maybe this is why my wife and her family are so cautious when they deal with people and have become very a private family. Just like every culture Ticos are not perfect and to belive different would be of ignorance.
Ben, why don’t you put your tico child in the public school?
My wife and I are planning on putting ours when they become of school age in the public school that she attended in San Jose. We are planning on home schooling them on the english end of the education.
I do understand for the gringo children because of language difference but why not your tico children?
Personally, I went to the head quarters and seen the 30 telemarketers at the welington corperation. I didn’t like what I had seen and will not refer any of my clients to this project.
After I had left they called me every two weeks for 4 months and was telling me to buy because the prices were going up.
To me the prices they were offering were staggering I could buy the same property for much cheaper price with out the high pressure.
J.janzen,
Just a question, why don’t you travel to Costa Rica yourself? why are you going thru the issue of listing or selling the property with out traveling to Costa Rica to interview agents and take the pictures your self?
I have personlly met George and I will have to say he has the best program that you will find.
Many of the tours that you will find will not take you to places that George takes his clients. He also will show you things that most wont such as the medical system or farmacias.
If you are looking to retire to Costa Rica you will want to know more than just where to buy a home and George fills that gap! He also introduces you to individuals that are making a go at in Costa Rica so that you can personally ask them what it is like to live and retire in Costa Rica. This gives more creidt than just some one flaping their gums about it!
If you want a broader over view of the country you need to come and visit more than once or twice you need to come and spend a couple of months traveling around the country. Rent for a little while before you buy and then you will feel more comfortible about your choice of where you want to live.
Interesting,
In this case the money was made on the internet, maybe the person that was beting should pay the taxes and not the bookies! As I stated before the internet was not intended for the use of making taxes for the U.S. Many people purchase stuff all the time on the internet from other countries and don’t pay taxes to Uncle Sam.
This is a problem that will faceing the up and coming Ecommerce and hopefuly the taxation of the U.S. goverment will stop on the net.
Maybe Scott can enlighten us with his thoughts on this subjet?
As well thanks for everyone that has served in the armed service, I am still currently serving in the service and have been for 20 years and will probley serve another 4 years. We all have different opinions of polotics and that is ok. How ever the topic is gambeling and the sportsbooks in Costa Rica!
I am only trying to center in on the topic.
If vegas is right than anywhere in the world if a vender sells or provides service to a individual in the United States on the internet they must pay taxes! This is not true!
If a person buys a pair of shoes from a vender online that is located in Costa Rica that vender must pay income taxes to the U.S. goverment?
When the bookies where located in Costa Rica and the gamblers were in the United States, and the gamblers were the ones that pushed the send button maybe they should have gone to jail!What about the gingos that go to Costa Rica, Germany or anywhere else in the world for the sextrade. In the U.S. that is illegal why cant the gringos be put in jail?
Edited on Jan 31, 2007 17:51
Edited on Jan 31, 2007 17:55
hmmm,
“The charges are the result of a joint investigation by Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.” as stated in the documents from the above link
I guess its not all about taxes?
I just wonder if someone opens up a shop for online gambeling in Costa Rica with disclaimers and no advertising in the United States if that would be profitable? Maybe not as much as the last bunch of guys but probley enough to make a nice living!
Edited on Jan 30, 2007 16:06
Yes, you are right about death and taxes, how ever again the shuting down of the sports bookies and creating job loss in Costa Rica just because of the North American way is not acceptable.
Costa Rica lost jobs! The amount of good paying jobs that were lost in Costa Rica from the sports indudustry was damaging. Just because of the pressure from the IRS, Gaming industry and the poor gringos that could not stop gambeling the Ticos have to pay for it!
Again maybe the bookies should have put disclaimers on their sites restricting the Gringos from playing?
Yes, alfred taxation is a huge affect on the internet. I use Vonage for my home phone system. I have to pay a MN tax of 2.32 a month, my question is Why???
This is a break down my my monthly bill of taxes for vonage.
Regulatory Recovery Fee $0.99
Emergency 911 Cost Recovery $0.99
Sales Tax $2.32
Federal Universal Service Surcharge $1.89
State 911 Fee $0.65why is the state fee the largest and since vonage is not located in MN why am I paying a sales tax to the state?
How ever the topic of the post is Sports books and when you read the articles that have been published they all state the issue of unpaid taxes from the bookies. Why do the bookies have to pay taxes to a U.S. goverment if they are not located with in the boarders and if they are not even citizens of the U.S. goverment?
Edited on Jan 29, 2007 05:32
Yes, GringoTico you are right about not sitting idle, how ever there is a line that most ticos would agree that should not be crossed. One is if you do have a biz in CR that doesn’t give you the right to try to change things such as government intervention.
When I asked my wife these questions it was funny the response. She said that the people have a right to speak just because they are a democratic society. How ever the Ticos would think they are just the dumb hippy gringos trying to change the world! The point to where the line would be if the gringos started to make a impact on the Ticos.
How ever the Gringos are a different culture and to think that trying to change the Tico government to what the gringos think is best won’t fly. The Ticos themselves have to change the system if they think that it needs to be changed. Yes expat associations do try to voice their concerns and the government will listen how ever they will not let the expats impact the way government governs. Look at what the changes have occurred in the last legislation. Even though they changed the wording they also made it tougher on illegal tourist working in CR and the penalties stiffer if they over stay the visa.
I am sure we can all tell stories of the crazy gringos that come to Costa Rica and think it is Miami or something and gets upset at the Tico clerk because they can’t understand what the crazy grigo is saying. (I personally have seen a crazy gringa go off on a tico at Multiplaza because he didn’t understand what duck sauce was) Well when the crazy gringos walk away the ticos say puto gringo! This is some what the same situation, if they crazy gringos start medaling in the system the Tico will walk away saying puto gringo who do they think they are! Which I can safely say I understand why they say it.
Regarding the cedula I understand what you are saying, I have to say it is a crazy system. How ever Costa Ricans have been using this system for a long time and if they want to change it so be! I know how much power a attorney has but they don’t have as much power as the U.S. political system or as corrupt! Have you ever seen a U.S. judge getting sued? I would much rather pay a Tico attorney than 300 dollars a hour for a gringo attorney!
Edited on Jan 28, 2007 12:48
Boy… you guys stired up a hornets nest tonight…hahahah
So by reading these posts, correct me if I am wrong! Some people on this post belive that things need to be changed at the Colegio de Abogados?
Do you think that the expats of Costa Rica should get involved with a movement to creat such a change?
Do you belive that if they are not citizens of Costa Rica that they have the right to protest or make these kind of changes?
What do you think the ticos would say if they had a picture of Gringos walking down the central with signs stating injustes?
Now I will ask my mother in-law, My wife, and her friends tico friends.
I will post what they would say!!
Pips, My wife and I want to assure you that it is safe to bring your child to Costa Rica!
Hahahah.. we don’t mean to be condensending but since our child is due on July 15th and we are going in August to November for family purposes, we are fairly sure it will be safe for us. Also my wife is a Tica and grew up in San Jose until 5 years ago when she moved to the states with me.
They have great hospitals and Doctors all over the country and the location that you are moving to is one of the upper bracet areas near Escazu.
Vegas, if it is true that the CEOs of the internet gambeling was only arrested for the violation that was commited with in the U.S. why would it affect them if they are not U.S. citizens or that the companys were not even in the borders of the U.S.? There are many laws commited with in the U.S. that are on the internet that are legal out side of the states that are not targeted.
You are wrong about the taxation because the U.S. was backed into a corner until they were able to change the laws of online gambeling that were just changed last year. (one of the charges that they are filing agains the CEOs is not paying taxes!) Until than they could not stop the huge online gambeling which was sending billions out side of the country. Do you really belive that they thought it was a moral issue of online gambeling with in the boarders.
Also you state that “The laws governing internet gaming are federal and state regulations none of which were put into place for tax reasons or to harm Costa Rica’s sport books.” Then why did they arrest the CEOs that were not even citizens of the U.S. or even when the biz were located out of the U.S.?????? These laws were to put inplace to stop the sports books that are places out side of the U.S. borders! This is one of the reasons why prior to the law there was so much publicity in the media about Costa Rica bookies!
Again my suggestion to the online gambling king pens is to put disclaimers on their site or ban U.S. citizens from participating online!
You are also wrong about paying taxes from transaction online because now the state of MN is requiring many venders online to pay taxes from purchases made online.
Regarding the long arm comment, this will come back to bit us in the future in places like Costa Rica if we don’t tred lighly. I was talking to my wife about the issue of ag prices, she used to work for IICA in Costa Rica! http://www.iica.int/ She was a Economist for them and wrote many articals about economics of agriculture. She would firmly agree with me regarding the U.S. able to practicly fix prices since the U.S. was the largest importer of goods.
You might have my views a little bit distorted regarding the U.S. I don’t belive that the U.S. is the evil of the world like many on this web sit. How ever I do belive that they need to keep their hands inside the boarders when it comes to many things and internet gambling is one of them! I am not a gambler but like I posted before I don’t belive that the people that created the internet wanted the U.S. to say what is right and what is wrong on the net.
Time will tell and god help the Ticos if CR starts to look like Purto Rico!
