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Either they aren’t “holding” enough gold or they aren’t willing to give it up because they know what is coming. All the big players are grabbing gold and silver in a quickening pace. Google any kind of search you want and you will find reports to back this up.

Possession is nine tenths of the law, as they say. And this truth holds all the way down the line to you and to me. If you do not have your wealth in your physical possession, you do not have it. Your paper and digital wealth in a bank account belongs to the bank in every legal and practical sense. The day will come when this will be proved to everyone with a bank account, It has happened many, many times already throughout history.

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I wonder where Germany’s gold is.It certainly is not where they thought it was or it would not take 7 years for the US to make delivery of only 10% of the total. The FED is probably scrambling to find some replacement gold for Germany…this perhaps explains why the US is preparing to invade Mali, a tiny, defenseless African nation which has more gold in the ground than many other African countries.

I don’t see any point in worrying about which currency Costa Rica uses. It is all paper crap and in light of the above, it should be evident to even a 5 year old what is happening.

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[quote=”johnnyh”]This is a fascinating subject for me, so much that my family thinks I’m nuts. But thanks to the op for bringing it up.
Should C.R. Dollarize? No! It should begin by giving their citizens the opportunity to buy silver in the form of Mexican Libertades as proposed by Hugo Salinas Price, one of my heroes.

Who owns the Costa Rican central bank? Costa Ricans, or foreigners? I remember when the exchange rate was 6.65 Colones per Dollar back in 1958. I remember when our coins were made of 90% silver. Now they are absolute crap, tokens! I buy the metals in anticipation of the coming Dollar devaluation. So should you.
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You and I are on the same page but this will not happen. For the time being, central banks run the entire circus and the ponzi scheme of fiat paper they create will have to run its course (right into the ground)

It is up to individuals to do what they can to save themselves from the absolute destitution that the coming crash will bring to all who rely strictly on paper.

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I agree that keeping the Colon gives more control to the CR government in the short term. But in the long run, all fiat currencies are tied to the central banking system and a currency war is coming soon to be followed by a collapse of the dollar.

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How is this for a solution?
Turn the tables on the banks. Take out a home equity loan on your USA house for as much as a bank will “lend”. Use that money to buy a property in Cost Rica. Immediately stop paying the new mortgage and property taxes on your USA house while living there for the two or three years it takes for a foreclosure to be completed*. (depending upon the state you are in) The bank will pay the property taxes for this period. Save that mortgage and tax money for use later on in Costa Rica.
You are essentially trading your USA house and your good credit rating for a Costa Rican house with enough cash so that good credit does not matter for the time it takes to re-establish it.

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[quote=”costaricabill”][quote=”sprite”]
Good advice, Costaricabill, but you don’t know my circumstances.

In any case, I am delighted to hear that I have irritated both right and left because that means I have been successful in leaving the right-left paradigm created to distract us. (this is why you find no meaning in what I am saying …because it doesn’t fit the parameters of the false world you have been brainwashed to believe in)

You should try to leave that false paradigm.. It helps focus on what really is happening and what really matters.[/quote]

“There you go again!”
Ronald Reagan

Actually Sprite, my family and I live a very good, happy life in what you may perceive as my “false world”. And suffice it to say, that is probably the norm for most others on this forum and surrounding you in the “real world” as well.

I truly am sorry that you are so troubled and unhappy and suspicious of anything and everyone out of your “norm”. I hope that 2013 brings you some happiness and cheer, but I doubt that it will.[/quote]

I am not unhappy. I suspect my life situation is unfairly better than most. And this is why I am a little troubled..as you should be too. This life of relative luxury and cloistered peace is maintained by an unsustainable and unfair system. The difference is that I know this and you do not…yet. Ignorance is bliss as long as it lasts but things are coming to a head soon. I am only pointing this out to anyone who listens.

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[quote=”costaricabill”][quote=”sprite”][quote=”DavidCMurray”]sprite, it is not the case that I “must” read what you write. In fact, in the main I do not which I’m sure you can understand.

Today is a rare exception.
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Of course, today is an exception.;)
Just as all the other responses have been.[/quote]

Actually Sprite, YOU are the exception, and I say that with equal degrees of levity and seriousness!

How else can you explain that both David and I, being at seemingly opposite ends of the political spectrum, each find most of your epistles and diatribes to be meaningless drivel that drone on and on about what seem to many (most) of us to be the same repetitiously mundane issues.

Obviously those issues are very important to you and you host a passionate interest in them, but I’m pretty sure that you are in the minority on this forum as well as in life.

Rather than get into it all over again and end up talking about the political implications of gated communities – here is what I believe:

I honestly believe that if someone (or anyone else that is as intelligent as you obviously are) really, really despises (hates) his/her political system and government as much as you obviously do, then I believe that person could (would) find some way to get out of that country and go live elsewhere. I respect your right to feel like you do and the passion of your belief – but I, and others, have an equal right to disagree with you without the vitriol that is found in many (most) of your entries on this forum which I understand was originated to be about the pros and cons of visiting and living in Costa Rica, not about how much someone hates living elsewhere.

You know where you want to go – so do it, make your break, let it happen! It can’t be that you are hanging around where ever you are hanging around trying to make more money, because you believe that money is worthless and is printed by a government that has no right to tax you and all of it – the government, the money, the taxes, etc. are illegal and immoral. That government and the money they print can’t possibly be the vehicle you plan on using to make your escape – I know you have a better plan that doesn’t involve having money, or its equivalent. The time is now, get out of there – you want to do it, so do it! And then, like many of us, at least you will be in a happier place and will probably find yourself enjoying life more and worrying about things like that far less often.

“Just Do it!”
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Good advice, Costaricabill, but you don’t know my circumstances.

In any case, I am delighted to hear that I have irritated both right and left because that means I have been successful in leaving the right-left paradigm created to distract us. (this is why you find no meaning in what I am saying …because it doesn’t fit the parameters of the false world you have been brainwashed to believe in)

You should try to leave that false paradigm.. It helps focus on what really is happening and what really matters.

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[quote=”DavidCMurray”]sprite, it is not the case that I “must” read what you write. In fact, in the main I do not which I’m sure you can understand.

Today is a rare exception.
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Of course, today is an exception.;)
Just as all the other responses have been.

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I am pretty sure David Murray does not like to see or read or my posts but so far, I have not given him a reason to “moderate” me according to the rules as I understand them……and it gives me pleasure to know that since he is a moderator, he must read my posts whether he likes them or not.
The fact that he responds to some of them I attribute to my ability to irritate him.

I hope that forum rules remain broad regarding subject matter. We are going through extraordinary times and as I see no conflict of forum purpose in discussing extraordinary events among ourselves as North Americans.

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David,
Show me how the Income Tax is an appropriated tax and I will shut up. Otherwise, I think you should look closely at your state of mind. You suffer from a normalcy bias. You have been taught to scream “nut job” at any contradiction to the lies that have been instilled in you.[/quote]

Sprite, do the banksters or the cabal pay for the construction and maintenance of the federal highway system, the air traffic control system, the military purchases and paychecks, NASA, federal grants, reimbursements to States for education, food stamps, unemployment benefits, healthcare for the needy, and on and on?

Take a look at any (every) State budget and see just how much money comes back to the States from the [b]federal government.[/b] It is a big part of every state budget!

Have you been listening? There is a big argument going on about “federal spending”. It’s all over the news, even in the main stream media. Surely you have heard about it!

Ooops, you probably don’t read or listen to the news, do you.

With your way of thinking they could cut out a lot of the hassle by just sending the freshly printed money straight to the banksters or the cabal or the IMF – why do they ever put it into circulation?
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David,
Show me how the Income Tax is an appropriated tax and I will shut up. Otherwise, I think you should look closely at your state of mind. You suffer from a normalcy bias. You have been taught to scream “nut job” at any contradiction to the lies that have been instilled in you.[/quote]

Sprite, do the banksters or the cabal pay for the construction and maintenance of the federal highway system, the air traffic control system, the military purchases and paychecks, NASA, federal grants, reimbursements to States for education, food stamps, unemployment benefits, healthcare for the needy, and on and on?

Take a look at any (every) State budget and see just how much money comes back to the States from the [b]federal government.[/b] It is a big part of every state budget!

Have you been listening? There is a big argument going on about “federal spending”. It’s all over the news, even in the main stream media. Surely you have heard about it!

Ooops, you probably don’t read or listen to the news, do you.

With your way of thinking they could cut out a lot of the hassle by just sending the freshly printed money straight to the banksters or the cabal or the IMF – why do they ever put it into circulation?
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The banking cartels own the larger world governments and they have owned ours for a very long time. Period. They install their people in positions of consequence. Haven’t YOU been reading the news? Where did Geitner, Paulson, John Corzine, Robert Rubin and Rahm Emanuel come from? It is impossible for citizens to vote against the interests of Goldman Sachs.

This is not a venue for explaining the fraud of the central banks, their fractional banking system and how it has enabled them to literally hollow out entire nations from the inside. Suffice it to say that we no longer have a republic and wealth is being siphoned away from infrastructure to support wars of asset acquisition and to further enrich the globalist banking interests.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for federal money to come flooding back into your state to fix all the problems and to put everyone back to work. All of that wealth has been turned over to a group of criminal psychopaths who have managed to convince enough people like you that they have your best interests at heart.

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[quote=”DavidCMurray”][quote=”sprite”]Show me how the Income Tax is an appropriated tax and I will shut up.[/quote]

The President, through the Budget Office, proposes an annual budget to Congress who makes the changes they deem appropriate. Then, a series of appropriation bills are sent to the President for his approval or veto. That’s how income tax is appropriated. Had you been there during your high school civics class, you wouldn’t need to ask.

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I go a little further than the lies they taught us in high school. They also taught us that Columbus was a hero and that the Spanish American war was fought to help or little Cuban buddies.

Although the government lies most of the time, there are rare occasions when the truth can be found in a government report;
President’s Private Sector Survey On Cost Control
A Report to The President (Reagan)
January 15, 1984. Available from the Congressional Research Service.
The excerpt below can be found on page 12.

“Resistance to additional income taxes would be even more widespread if people were aware that:

With two-thirds of everyone’s personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal Government contributions to transfer payments.

In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their government.”

David, you have been duped by your education and your government and are apparently annoyed at my repeated attempts to wake you up. So, in light of the above and your failure to show us how income tax money is specifically appropriated, I will not shut up. May be YOU should quiet down and do a little more reading on this matter. I suggest starting with an investigation into the difference between the national debt and the deficit.

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[quote=”DavidCMurray”][quote=”sprite”]I will repeat this because it appears that nobody sees it or believes it; Income tax does NOT got towards infrastructure. It goes directly to the banksters. It is a theft by the banks of our wealth. It is part of the harvesting and hollowing out of our society. If you are happy to pay that tax to the criminals who confiscate it, then you are a dupe because it has nothing to do with the costs of maintaining the society in which you live.

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There’s an old saying that if you say something forty times, it’s true. The saying is wrong, sprite, and so are you. You can repeat that claptrap daily, hourly, or as frequently and as often as you like, cluttering up this or any other discussion to your heart’s content, but it will never make what you say true. Nor will anyone take you seriously.

Get off it and get a life.

(The reason no one believes it is that it’s nonsense. Just ask anyone who has ever driven on an Interstate highway or flown to or from any metropolitan airport.)
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David,

Show me how the Income Tax is an appropriated tax and I will shut up. Otherwise, I think you should look closely at your state of mind. You suffer from a normalcy bias. You have been taught to scream “nut job” at any contradiction to the lies that have been instilled in you.

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[quote=”kwhite1″][quote=”sprite”]I will repeat this because it appears that nobody sees it or believes it; Income tax does NOT got towards infrastructure. It goes directly to the banksters. It is a theft by the banks of our wealth. It is part of the harvesting and hollowing out of our society. If you are happy to pay that tax to the criminals who confiscate it, then you are a dupe because it has nothing to do with the costs of maintaining the society in which you live.

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So you are saying that my property taxes that I pay, do NOT go the the multitude of items complete with milliage rates for, road, fire, schools, ect? If that is the case, then they have pulled off the biggest and longest fraud in the history of the world. How does the government pay for anything if all of the tax dollars go to the banking system?

Sprite, I think you and I have the same jandra of thinking, but I am confused about your last statement.[/quote]

I wrote clearly the words INCOME TAX. I did not write property tax. Property taxes are local and I have no idea what all the various local governments do with the money they collect.

Please understand there are many, many taxes out there, some city, some county, some state and some federal. I do not have enough knowledge about all of them but I have studied the income tax and THAT tax is unconstitutional and immoral and is imposed and collected by a cabal of European banks via the IRS ( a private corporation and a division of the IMF). The money collected goes straight to these banks.

Regarding property taxes; I pay a pittance in Costa Rica for my property. It is an amount that any breathing individual can come up with regardless of his economic situation. One can truly own property in Costa Rica. However, my property taxes in Miami come to almost $4000. If I do not pay that tax, the county will take my house and land. So do I really own the property once the mortgage is paid or am I just leasing it?

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I will repeat this because it appears that nobody sees it or believes it; Income tax does NOT got towards infrastructure. It goes directly to the banksters. It is a theft by the banks of our wealth. It is part of the harvesting and hollowing out of our society. If you are happy to pay that tax to the criminals who confiscate it, then you are a dupe because it has nothing to do with the costs of maintaining the society in which you live.

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[quote=”DavidCMurray”]Taking my chances, I clicked on a couple of the pages that are listed. On one, it makes mention of the fact that adherents to this myth issue their own license plates. In fact, when one of them was stopped by two police officers for not having legitimate plates on his car, he murdered them both. Great company they keep.

I thought it ironic that these guys don’t want to pay their taxes but they’re plenty happy to drive on the roads their law abiding neighbors pave for them.
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Sovereign citizenry is a movement which appeals to the idealistic libertarian mindset. It does not seem a practical approach to life style since governments everywhere are violently opposed to any individual actions which attempt to escape the human farm.

As regards the tax issue, anyone who uses a social infrastructure should be prepared to pay a fair share of that cost, which most of us do just by purchasing fuel, food and other essentials. You may have no idea just how much you are paying in taxes just by breathing and living within a society.(Income taxes are confiscated from us strictly for gifting to the bankers and not for paying for infrastructure, David))

On the same note, I am irritated by all of these idiots who claim that they are self made, successful business people who owe nothing to the society in which they live and upon which they thrive in a parasitic manner. If they were truly self sufficient, they would be living completely separated from society, well entrenched in the wilderness somewhere as a hermit where libertarian ideals would not even be an issue in the absence of other people.

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