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July 24, 2012 at 1:03 pm in reply to: Hacienda Matapalo’s “Paradise Lost” featured on CBS Miami #174074spriteMember
This is a good argument for staying away from the herd. Buying into “gated communities” or multi home projects apparently has at least as much risk as buying a single property on your own. To expect a safer investment just because others have bought into it (safety in numbers) ignores the possibility that those who did their due diligence simply stayed out leaving only those who did no investigation on board holding a big stinking sack of pooh. It is never a good idea to leave things up to others.
spriteMember[quote=”waggoner41″][quote=”sprite”]I am watching people all around me in some kind of trance, asleep or hypnotized by the matrix, trapped in a false paradigm of left-right politics, a failing fiat currency economy and the belief that large powerful central governments can be brought to heel and made to serve us.[/quote]
Count the number of people who are around you or in your community or your state who believe as you do. Obviously it has not occurred to you that such a miniscule minority is not going to carry any weight whatsoever.
It is good, though, to find such comic relief among the subjects that have real meaning on this forum.
[/quote]Seeing my responses as comic relief is, I suppose, one way of deflecting the seriousness and the truth of what I am saying. It is, after all, an incredulous truth with frightening consequences, that we have been hoodwinked and thoroughly robbed and enslaved for century. But being incredulous and a minority position does not automatically make it incorrect.
“A sane person to an insane society must appear insane.” Kurt Vonnegut.spriteMember[quote=”DavidCMurray”]Uh-huh. So if income and other taxes are not used to pay for infrastructure, how do you suppose the asphalt streets you use to get to the bridges you use to cross the rivers were paid for? And if all the taxes that are collected go to the bankers then it “follows” that the police and firefighters are all bankers, right?
Are you off your meds?
[/quote]Property taxes, gasoline taxes, airport and port taxes and fees, airline ticket fees, import duties, liquor and tobacco excise taxes, etc….those are the sources of support for the few things you mentioned.
I will repeat it even though your indoctrinated brain will not be able to process this; “The Federal Income tax does NOT go towards infrastructure. It goes to the bankers and the military industrial complex.”
Read it again and try to use critical thinking. Brainwashing obviously can be far more potent than any “meds” to disorient people. Until you are able to process what I wrote above about the use of income taxes, you will never be able to see what is really happening to all of us.
spriteMemberMost of the above responses are good examples of the results of brainwashing and indoctrination of an entire nation. I can state a fact in a simple sentence such as “Income tax is not used to pay for infrastructure” and people will not see it because their brains are trained to skip over such truths and move on to irrelevant, nonsense arguments such as “what is the fairest way to be robbed, flat tax or incremental tax?”
A brain using critical thinking will stop as soon as it sees what could be a salient fact. It first determines its veracity and then asks “why should I let somebody take my money who has not earned it and will only use it against my interests?”
I am watching people all around me in some kind of trance, asleep or hypnotized by the matrix, trapped in a false paradigm of left-right politics, a failing fiat currency economy and the belief that large powerful central governments can be brought to heel and made to serve us.
spriteMember[quote=”DavidCMurray”]
The further question, for which I’m confident sprite and loraine have a glib answer, is just what of that awful government spending you’d like to see eliminated. Next time you fly to Costa Rica, ask yourself whether you’d rather do so without the publicly funded airport, the government supervision of aircraft maintenance, or air traffic control. Myself, I don’t care if you opt out of all three, but only on days when [u]you[/u] fly. Me? I’ll pay my taxes to maintain the roads so I’m not driving across people’s lawns to get to the airport.
One could, of course, argue that we should eliminate all governmental support for human beings. So make the argument, loraine and sprite. Let’s hear your arguments in favor of eliminating Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, family support for active duty service members, SSI for the disabled. I’m confident you can make a convincing argument but what you cannot do is make such an argument without at the same time exposing your total lack of conscience.
[/quote]Why are you claiming that social security, Medicaid and publicly funded airports are things that income tax pays for? Those things are funded by separate taxes, some of which is strictly gotten from taxes paid by corporations, import duties and other sources.
You are spouting the IRS propaganda we have all been taught to believe. Until you get out of that paradigm, you will not be able to use rational thought.
spriteMember[quote=”waggoner41″]
The vast majority of us don’t hold your anarchist views.I think we all know that there is a certain amount of waste in the federal budget but what are you going to do? You can move to a desert island where you don’t have to put up with any taxes. If you need a road you build it.[/quote]
Waste?! You either missed my point or just don’t accept the facts.
Income tax does NOT go towards maintaining the infrastructure. It goes right into the bankers’ pockets. Period. We didn’t have an income tax before 1913 and practically nobody paid income tax until the 1950’s. We have been scammed for a century now and too many people are STILL
brainwashed into believing that taxes are used to benefit the population. The Federal Income tax is nothing more than an illegal transfer of wealth by use of force from working people to the idle rich. Please wake up.spriteMemberI am hearing victims arguing over what is the most fair way for their persecutors to rob them. The only thing that should be under consideration is whether or not you will submit to this criminal shake down.
spriteMemberThey want all of it and they won’t stop. The method is one of incremental incursions into our personal integrity, our wealth, our rights and our sense of our own personal value until one day (soon) there is no resistance that they can’t easily knock down with minimal state force. They are doing it everywhere.
And any of you who still think taxes of these sorts are beneficial to the majority of us, try and remember what they do with this wealth. They don’t build hospitals, roads and bridges. They don’t use it to care for the elderly and sick. They don’t use it to educate our young. In the US, most of it goes to the banks to pay interest on money created by the banks out of thin air, “lent” to the people. Most of the remainder goes to maintain an imperialistic arm of state force to ensure an obedient world population.
If you pay income tax, you are part of this evil. It doesn’t matter whether you do so at the point of a gun or out of a misguided sense of social responsibility or out of ignorance. As individuals, each of us must decide for ourselves where, when, how and even IF we will stand up against this tyranny.
spriteMemberI often wonder what will happen when the social security checks for U.S. resident applicants in Costa Rica stop coming in. What does the Costa Rican government do with all those applicants? Send them packing? How bad will it get in Costa Rica?
And where would they go? Back to the center of an imploding empire?
Insolvency and inevitable implosion is not just a government and banking problem and fate. Citizens are at the very bottom of that food chain. Self reliance is the only solution but as things begin to fall apart, even that might prove too difficult for even the most adept.
spriteMemberSeveral years ago, before I woke up to the crisis, I was ambivalent regarding hand guns. (I now go to the target range here in Miami once a week since January) When I purchased my first pistol (9mm semi-auto Springfield) I was informed by the dealer that his business was through the roof. FBI stats report record level gun sales in the US.
This makes perfect sense considering what people in the US face now and will soon be facing. I know several others here in Miami who carry concealed as do I and statistics imply that one out of every two or three drivers on the road here has a pistol tucked away somewhere nearby. A good reason to keep road rage under control. But my impression is that armed citizens are rather more exotic in Costa Rica.
spriteMemberyeah, David got my meaning. Although Costa Rica has a debt problem, it is still in a better situation than the US by far.
I believe there is going to be severe fall out from this problem for every country and while there is really no place to run, Costa Rica still looks like a much safer place to be than the US when the SHTF. In fact, if the chart is any indicator, the US is the absolute last place to be when this storm hits.spriteMemberI read her articles here. This one, for me, is about “live and let live” which is something, as a vegetarian, I try my best to do. Not always easy when I come across a biting fire ant, a sucking mosquito or a cockroach.
spriteMember“The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury”..George Washington.
We must be near this last act.spriteMemberPC trap? Are we still talking about taxes? I am terrible at abbreviations.
spriteMemberI also feel a deep sadness for my 18 year old son and his generation. College grads have made themselves debt slaves for life to obtain degrees in worthlessness. They go into a world filled up with hopes made false by a collapsing economy and a thoroughly destructive and corrupted government. This latest tax thing is another tightening of the noose.
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